Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Why is the go to mother of bride outfit a hideous stiff coat dress with hat?

218 replies

Coranne · 29/03/2025 21:10

No offence intended. But why do so many mother of the brides wear these horrible long coats with stiff dresses and a huge hat.

I took my mum to a wedding stylist (not cheap) and all she did was pull out outfits like the first image. I told the stylist I wanted my mum in something like the second outfit plus pashmina.

I’m British but my family is European by origin. Is it just tradition? The go to? It’s not even the most flattering. My mum is slim so I don’t get the knee jerk reaction to go for such a dated look

So confused!

Neither image is of my mum

Why is the go to mother of bride outfit a hideous stiff coat dress with hat?
Why is the go to mother of bride outfit a hideous stiff coat dress with hat?
OP posts:
Thread gallery
18
PyrannosaurusRex · 29/03/2025 22:35

Not every woman is confident in her style, especially for such a high stakes event. For some MOB/Gs, it's the first time they've had to wear something 'formal' since their own wedding - and they're conscious that fashions have changed, their bodies and maybe hair colour has changed, plus there's the pressure of knowing they'll be photographed and looked at all day, plus a sense that if her husband is in a morning coat she should be in something equally structured and 'not every day wear', plus worrying about getting the balance right between looking smart but not doing a Raquel Welch...

Is it so surprising that a 'don't scare the horses' look has evolved, and people who aren't that into fashion have clung to it? As PP have said, the most obvious starting point for MOB/Gs is the last royal wedding, where a tailored coat dress and hat is still the go-to, even for younger royals like Zara Phillips.

What is weird is the way the outfits are always photographed on models young enough to be the bride's father's third wife, who is only two years older than her and has Caused a Lot of Tension Already.

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:32

This is absolutely not the go to in my home country. That is just a fact.

Why is the go to mother of bride outfit a hideous stiff coat dress with hat?
OP posts:
Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:31

KatzenRatzen · 29/03/2025 22:29

Hate to say it but that’s also the biggest difference between OP’s two pictures.

Looks ugly on a tall, skinny model too

Why is the go to mother of bride outfit a hideous stiff coat dress with hat?
OP posts:
Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:30

abricotine · 29/03/2025 22:26

I think this is your perception again and you are assuming it applies to all British women that we are inhibited in some way? Undoubtedly some are more conscious than others. Many aren’t at all!

I’m going by what people have said 🤷

OP posts:
KatzenRatzen · 29/03/2025 22:29

Oistins · 29/03/2025 22:22

I think that that ubiquitous coat dress and matching hat so beloved of Carol Middleton and Kate is to blame. It’s dullsville, but they carry it off as they’re both slim. On the average middle aged woman, it’s just frumpy.

Hate to say it but that’s also the biggest difference between OP’s two pictures.

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:28

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/03/2025 22:23

My sister is Vinting (made up verb) her MIL's hat from a wedding about 10 years ago and that was Jaques Vert.

Personally I would just send it to the charity shop. Not being horrible, but no one wears that stuff anymore! I am 51 and the age to be MOB if any of my lot showed an interest in getting married (thankfully they dont) and I wouldnt wear it.

I think that, as an OP said, the stylist here was the problem. She heard "MOB" and went to that style automatically. What she doesnt seem to have caught on to is that MOB now were born in the 70's or 80's and we have our own styles that we are confident in.

I can see why the OP did it, as a sort of MOB "try on/dress shopping" like you do as a bride, but until the stylists catch up to the fact that we are not 80 years old and dressing like the late queen, its a waste of time.

@Coranne how old was the stylist? I rather suspect that she was in her twenties and views anyone over 45 as "old" because that is the age of her parents.

Edited

She was similar age to me, late 20s.

I was hoping she would give us food for thought and make us think of styles we had not considered. It seemed so convenient that she would have bought things for my mum to try on in a private space.

Going to have to figure out another time to hit the shops.

OP posts:
Foolsgold74 · 29/03/2025 22:28

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:12

I’ve asked why hat/coat dress is seen as the go to look. It’s pushed in shops. If people want to interpret that as me denigrating English stule then that says more about them

Edited

Oh please, do me a favour. Hideous, ugly and frumpy clothes that British women of a certain age wear as a uniform that your stylish European relatives wouldn't be seen dead in...Come on!

abricotine · 29/03/2025 22:26

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:20

I think there also a lot of perceived rules and inhibitions when British women dress. People have mentioned arms, height, flabby bits etc. It’s no t like those things don’t exist in my home country. Peope definitely aren’t so afraid to show off less than perfect arms for example. It’s a less restrictive mentality. My mum is slim but has carried four kids so she has a bit of a middle. But it’s not going to force her to hide away. Her arms aren’t perfect but if she wants to wear short sleeves or no sleeves she will.

Edited

I think this is your perception again and you are assuming it applies to all British women that we are inhibited in some way? Undoubtedly some are more conscious than others. Many aren’t at all!

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/03/2025 22:23

LunaNorth · 29/03/2025 22:12

Is Berketex still a thing? And Jacques Vert?

They were my mum’s wedding go-tos.

Edited

My sister is Vinting (made up verb) her MIL's hat from a wedding about 10 years ago and that was Jaques Vert.

Personally I would just send it to the charity shop. Not being horrible, but no one wears that stuff anymore! I am 51 and the age to be MOB if any of my lot showed an interest in getting married (thankfully they dont) and I wouldnt wear it.

I think that, as an OP said, the stylist here was the problem. She heard "MOB" and went to that style automatically. What she doesnt seem to have caught on to is that MOB now were born in the 70's or 80's and we have our own styles that we are confident in.

I can see why the OP did it, as a sort of MOB "try on/dress shopping" like you do as a bride, but until the stylists catch up to the fact that we are not 80 years old and dressing like the late queen, its a waste of time.

@Coranne how old was the stylist? I rather suspect that she was in her twenties and views anyone over 45 as "old" because that is the age of her parents.

Oistins · 29/03/2025 22:22

I think that that ubiquitous coat dress and matching hat so beloved of Carol Middleton and Kate is to blame. It’s dullsville, but they carry it off as they’re both slim. On the average middle aged woman, it’s just frumpy.

abricotine · 29/03/2025 22:21

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:12

I’ve asked why hat/coat dress is seen as the go to look. It’s pushed in shops. If people want to interpret that as me denigrating English stule then that says more about them

Edited

Because at traditional English weddings men wore morning suits and women hats and jackets/coats.
However you have taken a deeply frumpy and unflattering example of the coat dress and compared it to a stylish example of something women would wear to a wedding in Spain for example (although at one Spanish wedding I attended the women were even dressier). So not a fair comparison!
imo Wedding styles have become more relaxed in recent years at all but the highest profile formal weddings so your mum should wear what she wants.

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:20

I think there also a lot of perceived rules and inhibitions when British women dress. People have mentioned arms, height, flabby bits etc. It’s no t like those things don’t exist in my home country. Peope definitely aren’t so afraid to show off less than perfect arms for example. It’s a less restrictive mentality. My mum is slim but has carried four kids so she has a bit of a middle. But it’s not going to force her to hide away. Her arms aren’t perfect but if she wants to wear short sleeves or no sleeves she will.

OP posts:
Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 29/03/2025 22:15

Ime, for example in Spain, a lot of wedding guests wear what we would consider evening dresses whereas for the more traditional British wedding it's daytime formal wear, very similar to what you'd wear to the races.

Your mum could probably look stylish in a paper bag OP. What about a personal shopper service at a department store that sells the kinds of things you'd like to see your mum in?

Screamingabdabz · 29/03/2025 22:14

Not everyone lives and breathes style and fashion though…

I agree with you about MOB defaults but I think if you have no experience of formal dressing, and have no imagination or idea about what might suit you, and if you have a less-than-perfect figure, then it’s a fairly safe ‘uniform’ for many older women. You go into Phase Eight, pick an ensemble and job done.

Fwiw I don’t think your second example dress is particularly flattering either. The fabric looks cheap, the shape and length would be unflattering on anyone short, the colours would be garish at a nice country wedding and on anyone with English-rose colouring and the shoes are hideous.

aliceinawonderland · 29/03/2025 22:12

By mid 50s the tops of one’s arms are not as good ( unless one goes to the gym)

I’d wear photo 2 if it had elbow length sleeves

LunaNorth · 29/03/2025 22:12

Is Berketex still a thing? And Jacques Vert?

They were my mum’s wedding go-tos.

Coranne · 29/03/2025 22:12

Foolsgold74 · 29/03/2025 22:07

Yeah, we're the problem, being oh so defensive. Nothing to do with your critical tone and lumping all british women together in to one unstylish group.

I’ve asked why hat/coat dress is seen as the go to look. It’s pushed in shops. If people want to interpret that as me denigrating English stule then that says more about them

OP posts:
PermanentTemporary · 29/03/2025 22:12

I've secretly joined a couple of MOB -ish reselling Facebook groups because dp's daughter is planning her wedding. I'm afraid ive ended up staying to gawp now - theres a style that would never exist in any other context, and OMG the prices. I agree with you 100%. But any kind of dressing up is relatively rare in Britain now, so we don't really know how to do it. 20 years ago when I still invited people round to dinner, it was unusual to have anyone wear anything at all nice even then. We dress up for specific days only - the races, some weddings and some funerals. So of course people look for stuff that is 30 years out of date because that might be the last time they dressed up. And there are designers and stockists that cater purely to that market. Hatinators FGS.

KatzenRatzen · 29/03/2025 22:11

RosesAndHellebores · 29/03/2025 22:04

They do at the weddings we go to. I think CM's outfit there is great but I'd never have worn something like that again.

Well that is good to hear - I love a morning suit and 25y ago (when I got married) they were the norm but I’d assumed they were now less popular.

I think CM has prioritised looking appropriate over looking interesting, and who can blame her? High pressure occasion.

TizerorFizz · 29/03/2025 22:09

Many smart weddings are morning suit. Then you wear something like CM wore. A neat dress and matching coat are never going to be wrong unless it’s a Caribbean beach. So many women look at these shops but end up buying overpriced polyester. There’s way better designers than stocked by these shops.

Hankunamatata · 29/03/2025 22:08

My mum wore a geogeous tailored trousers suit in a lovely bright colour. Mil was a bit sniffy but I loved it.

Foolsgold74 · 29/03/2025 22:07

Coranne · 29/03/2025 21:49

I haven’t disagreed. I’ve asked why the hat, coat and dress look is pushed given it’s not even flattering? That is all. A lot of defensive people for no reason imo.

Yeah, we're the problem, being oh so defensive. Nothing to do with your critical tone and lumping all british women together in to one unstylish group.

Namechangetry · 29/03/2025 22:06

Coranne · 29/03/2025 21:53

All of a sudden it’s weird for daughters to shop with their mum for the perfect outfit. Ok.

My mum does have a say btw

It didn't come across like that. It came across that you were choosing her outfit like you'd choose a flower girl dress:

I want my mum in something phenomenal

I think it's the perfect thing to wear

I want her looking phenomenal

It didn't sound like she was getting to choose, it sounded like she was an accessory.

RosesAndHellebores · 29/03/2025 22:04

KatzenRatzen · 29/03/2025 22:01

I also think some of it is a hangover from when men all wore morning suits- dress + coat is a way of approximating the same level of formality without looking like you’re wearing an evening dress (see for example the Middletons here). But these days most men don’t wear morning suits.

They do at the weddings we go to. I think CM's outfit there is great but I'd never have worn something like that again.

Hortus · 29/03/2025 22:04

I've been both a mother of bride and groom in the past ten years, so have my siblings and many friends. Not one of us has worn a stereotypical outfit like that, neither did my own mother when I married 35 years ago.

I wore a longish dress and silk jacket for one, black palazzo trousers, tunic and jacket for the other. I did wear huge hats for both because I suit them, love them and a wedding is the only opportunity I get to wear them.

I chose my outfits myself, I would have absolutely refused to go to a "wedding stylist". I did show both my son and daughter what I intended to wear and they were both happy, but they would never have tried to tell me what to wear. I also did my own make up and hair because I wanted to feel like myself.

Swipe left for the next trending thread