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He invaded my space/was creepy. I feel angry - even days afterwards.

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septembernights · 28/03/2025 19:11

Hi,

I was debating posting this, but I can't keep it in any longer and feel like I need a safe space to vent/question if I am being unreasonable.

The other day, after visiting my goddaughter, I had some time to kill - before heading out for dinner. I went to a hotel bar as I was in the city. It's a bar I've been going to for 20+ years. I had my work bag (thinking I was going to head to the office once free) but because dinner was nearby to where my goddaughter and her mother were - I decided to work at the bar. It's a lovely establishment, not loud etc... I also had a book in my bag.

I get to the bar and immediately 'feel' a man opposite staring at me. I shook it off and got my laptop/book out. Still, I could feel him staring. He then looked like he was leaving - great! He ended up coming over to me, saying hello - and asking if I could watch his stuff for him... except his stuff was on the other side of the bar...? I said 'I'm sure your stuff will be fine - no one is going to steal it!'

He then came back, got his belongings, sat next to me and offered me some chocolates - which was in one of the bags. I politely declined. He didn't relent/move. He acknowledged that he noticed the staff were familiar with me and said this place must be 'my local' - as it was his too. Great(!)

He ordered himself a drink - and offered me one. I said no. He then kept trying to chat - and after some polite interaction and I explained that I had work to do. He apologised and then touched me on my shoulder and in one movement - moved his hands down to mine and apologised again. I recoiled away from him. He must have thought he was being a gentleman in the way he was profusely apologising, but it really didn't feel like that.

I said I was going to move - at which point he proceeded to wrap up/leave. He asked for my number - I said no - and then said: 'Not to worry, since this is your local - I'm sure I'll see you in here again soon, no doubt...' - but he said it with a smile. He told me to 'take care' as he left. I found out he settled my check/bill - which annoyed me. I am capable of buying my own wine. I don't want to 'owe' him anything should I ever see him again.

It has been a few days now and I am mad - as in really angry. I'm angry that I wasn't stronger - even though he didn't do anything so awful. I feel like I can't go back to my place again. The older I get, the less patience I have. I wish I had the guts to speak up more and could have told him to F off. I'm tired of being 'nice' for fear of a man getting angry/violent.

Sorry if this is nonsensical - I'm just angry and raging. I'm getting my period next week, so maybe I am PMS-ing. But AIBU to feel angry days later? Why didn't I speak up? Why didn't I just move from the outset?

Please no abusive comments. I think I am just sensitive at the moment. :(

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Rhaidimiddim · 28/03/2025 19:46

Have a word with the hotel/bar manager. If he turns up again, have them deal with it.

Audiprettier · 28/03/2025 19:43

Isn't it hideous that men have a sense of entitlement to us?

What a vile creep.

I think almost all of us can relate to this type of unwanted behaviour at some point or another.
As op said, giving an agressive response can work out badly for women (on the other hand, trying to remain polite may be seen ((yuk!)) to them as just being coy!) FGS!

'Ask for Angela' needs an upgrade!

So sorry you had to endure this!
I just thought of something you could do,but better not write it...JIC!

MasterBeth · 28/03/2025 19:26

YANBU. Entitled, creepy behaviour. Get yer fucking hands off, you sleaze. Paying for a drink gives him no right to take up your time or manhandle you.

SewingBees · 28/03/2025 19:26

I'm absolutely with you on having to be nice to strange men in case they get violent or angry. It's an incredibly unfair element of our society.

Even this week I've had to have the chat with my daughter about a boy at school who is ignoring her saying no. She's 8 FFS.

septembernights · 28/03/2025 19:21

Letmecallyouback · 28/03/2025 19:20

Oh god this reminds me of years ago we had someone like this appear in a local bar. He kept settling people’s bills without asking and really made a lot of locals annoyed and uncomfortable because he just would not stop even when you were quite forceful. Turned out he was a retired prison officer who was desperate for friends and had sold a house and had money to burn. Another regulars wife ran off with him in the end 😳

OMG!! 😯

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Letmecallyouback · 28/03/2025 19:20

Oh god this reminds me of years ago we had someone like this appear in a local bar. He kept settling people’s bills without asking and really made a lot of locals annoyed and uncomfortable because he just would not stop even when you were quite forceful. Turned out he was a retired prison officer who was desperate for friends and had sold a house and had money to burn. Another regulars wife ran off with him in the end 😳

septembernights · 28/03/2025 19:18

sciaticafanatica · 28/03/2025 19:14

Honestly don’t take this the wrong way but I think he thought you were “ working”

In fairness, I did think of that too, but I think that was quickly shut down - as my work screensaver visible when I opened my laptop - it's a well known accountancy firm. Also, my Slack notifications were appearing on my work phone too - which he noticed - and he joked about how the Slack notifications are the worst sounds ever.

So no, I think it was clear I wasn't 'working' - although in some ways, I wish I was! Would have made more sense!

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sciaticafanatica · 28/03/2025 19:15

I only say this because similar happened to a friend… it’s not a justification and makes him more creepy

sciaticafanatica · 28/03/2025 19:14

Honestly don’t take this the wrong way but I think he thought you were “ working”

helloworld88 · 28/03/2025 19:14

Sorry I voted wrong! It’s definitely fair to feel those feelings. What a creep

Edit: oh it let me change my vote, sorry I’m not doing so well on this and ruining your thread!

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