Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

Am encouraging my own to DC to leave.
The country is a mess and with net migration massively rising and the ‘benefit’ culture rife, people who actually work for a living are being taken for mugs.

Ah .... the monthly 'UK bashing' thread!

Good luck with that. (Leaving the UK!) One question... How do you know your country of choice will want you though?

Bit presumptuous to assume that you can just stroll off and make a new life just anywhere @HonoraBridge

You won't leave. I will bet my house on that. The vast majority of UK bashers, (who were born and raised her,) who claim they're off to another country as the UK is so 'shit,' are all talk......

Weird how the UK is so 'despised' by some of its own people, yet 1000s and 1000s of people from other countries, seem to be desperate to come here and stay. Go figure!

The UK has been through worse times than this. These kinds of threads make me roll my eyes, seriously. 🙄

Housing unaffordable, lack of housing, tent cities all over the place, full of trash and drugs.

Opioid epidemic, fentanyl is killing addicts regularly.

Rising crime (see, drug problems.)

Public education is rather shit, worse than the UK for sure. My kids in high school academic English had the teacher read the novels to them - this is not uncommon. Science teaching is marginally better, math not so much, humanities are completely lame. Some get out of this problem by putting their kids in IB schools if they are available which means living in the right place.

Serious issues with the medical system, you will likely be on a wait list for a GP and may well never get off it. Treatment for minor issues, or even major ones, means trying to find a walk in clinic or ER visit, with no follow up. Increasing instances of deaths in ERs of people waiting to be seen. Long waits for procedures.

Programs and such for kids with special needs are uneven and variable.

Media climate is very flat compared to the UK, there are very few major newspapers so the variety of takes that happens in the UK media isn't available, and it shows in the political discourse.

Rising prices generally, especially food. Wages are flat.

This. ^ I can't imagine, for one split second, 'encouraging' my children to leave the UK. What a bizarre thing to do. The vast majority of people wouldn't want their children flying off to another continent to live. Why on earth would you try and encourage them to go?

Croatia, Monte Negro, Poland etc. The average salary in most Eastern European countries has risen to 2000 euros per month but the average rent for a central flat in a big city is 500 euros. You do the math

Croatia, Monte Negro, Poland etc. The average salary in most Eastern European countries has risen to 2000 euros per month but the average rent for a central flat in a big city is 500 euros. You do the math

Where though? Germany , France are both economically expected to go backwards this year. The rest of Europe and those two have increased issues with terrorism. Plus issues should Germany struggle
Spain is still basically an economy based on tourism and has had several major weather issues.
The middle East is a powder keg and it's expensive to move there
The far East has been today hit by a massive earth quake. Thailand which is the usual destination doesn't have the most stable political situation having had 20 constitutions and several military could
Aus and new Zealand are fave, if you meet the criteria to get in...and it's a long long way to visit family
The us? With trump?
So Canada...it's well it's canada?

This. ^ I can't imagine, for one split second, 'encouraging' my children to leave the UK. What a bizarre thing to do. The vast majority of people wouldn't want their children flying off to another continent to live. Why on earth would you try and encourage them to go?

Fake asylum seekers you mean? They were safe in France , so no need to invade us. We need to wake up to this invasion and see it for what it is.

On this thread, it seems that many people who have, or are going to, move to another country are originally from elsewhere, have a spouse from another country and/or already have friends and family in another country. I’d like to hear more about the motivation to move away for a couple or family who are born and bred Brits

Yes, and those countries are often a lot bigger! Why do they come to the U.K.? I think the U.K. is more generous than most, that’s why they want to come here, not because they have relatives here and speak English as some say, as judging from the size of the bill for interpreters, they don’t. Not all who come across on boats are asylum seekers, not all come from war torn countries, they include economic migrants and criminals etc . How can the authorities know their history without documentation? In Spain, if they rock upon the beach they are quickly deported. No hotel accommodation for them there.

I thought you were golden geese laying golden eggs...

Waiting list

No of course not, but it was run down and needed an injection of cash. Boosting their economy wasn’t in the least imperial. House building increased, more jobs created, Furnishings electrical goods etc required, new supermarkets , restaurants followed. Everybody gained.

What's the alternative break up their community by trying to freeze you out? It isn't just people coming here who try to impose their culture on the native members of their new communities. There is a reason there is push back in places like Spain.

It's a very imperial mindset to say you have improved their communities. Were they uncultured, savages before you arrived?

Well, they’re happy enough to make use of the improvements, and we were welcomed there as part of the community, and invited to take part in such things as fiestas etc.

You do know that other countries take more asylum seekers than we do, right? There’s a difference between an illegal immigrant snd an asylum seeker. An illegal immigrant is unknown to the authorities, so they don’t claim benefits because the government isn’t aware they’re still here. Illegal immigrants include those who were previously granted visas and have overstayed after expiration. They don’t drain any resources because the government does not give them any.

‘the Boat people’ are asylum seekers, they are known to the home office. They have to come over on a boat and declared themselves, because if they obtained a visa and came by air, they then wouldn’t be granted asylum because they had a visa.

I wish people knew the difference.