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Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

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HonoraBridge · 28/03/2025 16:31

I love the UK in many ways but it has been going downhill for at least 20 years and it feels as if the speed of the decline is accelerating. I no longer see a happy, or particularly safe, future here. For the first time in my life, I am very seriously thinking about leaving the UK and that feeling gets stronger day by day. When I mention this to friends, many are feeling the same way. YANBU - you are right to think seriously about leaving the UK. YABU - the UK is a still a great country to live in and you are being unreasonable to want to leave.

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ForQuirkyFawn · 30/03/2025 02:49

I love reading the posts about this, what gets me are people blaming immigration for them wanting to leave this country, they are doing the same thing the immigrants wanting a better life, surreal...

Exdonkeylover · 30/03/2025 02:46

I love the fact some people complain about immigration, saying how they'll leave the country and go somewhere else. To be.... well..... immigrants

Joe7t8 · 29/03/2025 23:49

Uppitymuppity · 29/03/2025 21:45

Britain is quickly becoming less British and I can entirely see why you would think it's a good idea to leave.

The irony of people who would leave the U.K. because they think there’s too much immigration, but they’re fine with becoming immigrants themselves. Usually they misname themselves expats.

Hoardasauruskaren · 29/03/2025 23:40

Walkaround · 29/03/2025 18:35

I wouldn’t want to be moving to Poland atm, with Russia breathing down their neck.

Also, abortion is now illegal except in exceptional circumstances in Poland. I wouldn't move to any country that restricts reproductive rights for women.

chubbychopsticks · 29/03/2025 22:58

Moving back to uk for many reasons from AU. Economically au is far more expensive. NZ has similar issues if not more issues than Au economically. Travel anywhere is long haul and expensive. Not saying don’t do it, just do your research.

Teddybear23 · 29/03/2025 22:32

rhubarb007 · 28/03/2025 22:00

I moved to UK in 2000 as 18yo. I worked my way up corporate ladder, did OU degree whilst working full time and got a great job earning six figures by 2008.
I had kids on full maternity pay but had to quit my job in 2018 and am now full time carer to my autistic son.
It seems that UK started slipping backwards about David Cameron/George Osborne austerity era. My son needs specialist school but there are none that fit have space.
He needed therapies, but guess what? None available, only privately. Local ofsted 'outstanding' was downgraded to 'require improvement' after 20 year gap in inspection. There are potholes everywhere. Rubbish strewn on sides of motorway.
Want to go from London to Manchester in January on train? That will be 200£.
The country has noticeably gone downhill post covid.
I travel often and each time I land, there are problems. Barcelona has wifi on underground, I can barely get 4g signal and we live just outside M25.
People seem miserable (me included and I'm not normally miserable).
We have been debating moving back to my country (eastern Europe) for about 2 years,
The difference between here and there is that every time I go back I can see progress. More money earned by everyone, more foreign shops, more good food. UK seems to be going backwards. Better weather too.
Husband is retiring this year on final salary, our mortgage is paid off.
We have sold our house STC and are going to risk it.
We can buy similar house to here for 1/3rd of price or less.
Stick the rest of cash into bank
and live off pension and interest, plus some kind of job, just to do something.
We will miss our local pub and family.

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Where are you going to? Good luck 🤞

Teddybear23 · 29/03/2025 22:30

BatchCookBabe · 28/03/2025 16:46

Ah .... the monthly 'UK bashing' thread! Wink

Good luck with that. (Leaving the UK!) One question... How do you know your country of choice will want you though?

Bit presumptuous to assume that you can just stroll off and make a new life just anywhere @HonoraBridge

You won't leave. I will bet my house on that. The vast majority of UK bashers, (who were born and raised her,) who claim they're off to another country as the UK is so 'shit,' are all talk......

Weird how the UK is so 'despised' by some of its own people, yet 1000s and 1000s of people from other countries, seem to be desperate to come here and stay. Go figure!

The UK has been through worse times than this. These kinds of threads make me roll my eyes, seriously. 🙄

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Because the 1000,s coming here get treated better than us British. I work for the NHS. A few week ago my GP sent through a referral to my hospital for me to see a specialist, I got told the wait is about 55-58 weeks. A few days later I booked in a man who had just been housed in a migrant hotel nearby 3 days before.

Laurmolonlabe · 29/03/2025 22:25

I understand the wish to leave- the UK has been going downhill for far longer than 20 years IMO.
This is the product of being at the stage we are, post industrial revolution- most wealth generation, which comes from making things has moved elsewhere, and no matter what stimulus, or government policies are employed, that is not going to change.
The problem with leaving is, where do you go? The same economic fate awaits pretty much all of the Western world.
Other problems are what financial backing do you have? What skills do you have? This strongly impacts where you can go.
I think you will find most of the problems the UK has are also elsewhere- eg. unaffordability of housing, lack of economic growth and worsening public services.
All of these things are born of rapidly increasing wealth inequality, which affects pretty much all of the places you could move to, or they already have massive gaps between rich and poor (eg. India, South Africa and most of South America).
I would therefore think very carefully , and do as much research as possible before you make any firm plans to move.

Sifflet · 29/03/2025 22:07

Uppitymuppity · 29/03/2025 21:45

Britain is quickly becoming less British and I can entirely see why you would think it's a good idea to leave.

Snort. Bigots and reactionaries have such strange logic.

Walkaround · 29/03/2025 22:05

Uppitymuppity · 29/03/2025 21:45

Britain is quickly becoming less British and I can entirely see why you would think it's a good idea to leave.

Yea, because it’s so much more British elsewhere. 🤣

Uppitymuppity · 29/03/2025 21:45

Britain is quickly becoming less British and I can entirely see why you would think it's a good idea to leave.

iamnotalemon · 29/03/2025 21:44

WWYD22 · 29/03/2025 18:15

Make the move and don’t look back. The U.K. is finished. In fact, Europe is gone. In 20 years it will be an Islam ruled country and our government will jail you for not being happy about it. Told my teens to get skilled up and get out. We are being invaded daily by dangerous men and the powers that be refuse to protect us. Our towns now look like Baghdad and it’s unsafe. I envy those who can get out and have the means to do so.

Oh FFS!!

ErinBell01 · 29/03/2025 21:41

Oz and NZ don't know what a woman is - you could have problems there, particularly with kids, that we don't yet have here.

BlackCoffeeAndSugar · 29/03/2025 21:39

ThymeScent · 28/03/2025 16:40

Am encouraging my own to DC to leave.
The country is a mess and with net migration massively rising and the ‘benefit’ culture rife, people who actually work for a living are being taken for mugs.

After seeing the way some fb acquaintances are living then hard agree with this. No incentive to work for some. I have multiple conplex health issues and feel like an absolute mug working and saving for the smallest of breaks. I know that doesn't apply to everyone but some are absolute ripping it and I can't believe they post what they do online.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/03/2025 21:34

I probably spend 4 to 6 months out of the UK. If I had my time again I would become resident in Spain. Too old now. My child has emigrated to Oz recently.

crackofdoom · 29/03/2025 21:29

There's a really weird tone to this thread- a lot of "Britain is fucked because of all the immigrants so I want to become an immigrant myself" It has descended to the kind of sludge you'd scrape off the floor after the Reform conference has spaffed its last. Utterly nihilistic and joyless.

Strange, because if anything would make me want to leave the UK it would be pasty faced indigenous "Eng-er-land!" types setting fire to bins and ripping their shirts off to try and start on the plod 🙄.

But there is so much cool about this country- bluebells, folklore, public footpaths- probably the kind of thing the joy suckers pay no attention to while they're giving their nets a twitch or getting in the Range Rover to drive to the retail park, looking forward to their two minutes hate at the sight of a woman in a headscarf.

But I'd still like the opportunity to live elsewhere, to discover the unique quirks and joys and landscapes and people of other lands. Shame the dementors have made that impossible for us with their small minded hatred of "furriners" isn't it.

Parker231 · 29/03/2025 21:29

TempestTost · 29/03/2025 21:15

Really? You live in Canada and don't know about the housing issues, medical issues, or the opioid epidemic? I'm on the East coast but you would have to be living under a rock to be unaware of this. it's in the news every day.

Some areas have problems but it’s no where near as bad as some US and UK cities.

noodlebugz · 29/03/2025 21:22

I haven’t voted (super annoying as I can’t see how others have voted!) - because I can see both sides.

I hate that things seem so bleak here, that the cost of living has taken joy for so many or worse pushed people into poverty. Diseases like rickets have no place in a civilised society. I hate that there’s nothing to choose between our political parties- this week labour have really taken over as the really nasty party!

However I’d caution that the grass might not be greener - imagine living under trump the narcissist, issues in france, germany, tension in lots of war in the middle east, mexico, canada and greenland being bullied by america, ukraine etc.

TempestTost · 29/03/2025 21:15

Parker231 · 29/03/2025 19:19

Where in Canada do you live? We’ve in Canada and don’t recognise your comments.

Really? You live in Canada and don't know about the housing issues, medical issues, or the opioid epidemic? I'm on the East coast but you would have to be living under a rock to be unaware of this. it's in the news every day.

Jabberwok · 29/03/2025 21:04

Considerations

  • Do you speak the language. Can you write it? To a level to gain decent employment
  • Will your previous employment record/qualifications be recognised
  • What are the entry requirements...I watched a YouTube video suggesting countries worth moving to, most require hefty savings and investment in the country
  • Kids education, how good is it, could they start in a completely from scratch and without the language
  • Is medical treatment affordable until you have insurance in place
  • Could you adjust to the culture. Moving to Europe is one thing but to the far East or india
  • How do you feel about leaving family behind, if parents get ill it's not a case of jumping in.the car
AzurePanda · 29/03/2025 21:02

Two out of our three children (professionals working in London) are in the process of leaving the UK to work abroad, the third is hoping to follow.

For the first time ever we are also thinking of returning to my home country for retirement, primarily because it has zero inheritance tax.

ICoriander · 29/03/2025 20:58

BatchCookBabe · 28/03/2025 16:46

Ah .... the monthly 'UK bashing' thread! Wink

Good luck with that. (Leaving the UK!) One question... How do you know your country of choice will want you though?

Bit presumptuous to assume that you can just stroll off and make a new life just anywhere @HonoraBridge

You won't leave. I will bet my house on that. The vast majority of UK bashers, (who were born and raised her,) who claim they're off to another country as the UK is so 'shit,' are all talk......

Weird how the UK is so 'despised' by some of its own people, yet 1000s and 1000s of people from other countries, seem to be desperate to come here and stay. Go figure!

The UK has been through worse times than this. These kinds of threads make me roll my eyes, seriously. 🙄

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“Go figure”? It’s really not that difficult: the people who want to leave are those paying high taxes and getting nothing for it (terrible nhs, education, council services, everything overpriced, etc, etc) and those desperate to come want to sponge off the tax payers to get free housing, benefits, education, nhs, etc despite never having paid a penny into the system. We really are a joke.

August1980 · 29/03/2025 20:48

the expression : Grass could be greener on the side springs to mind… as my dad would say the water bill is probably higher too! Best of luck

Readingismyfirstlove · 29/03/2025 20:03

Lollipop81 · 29/03/2025 19:50

There was a shooting by my home yesterday as school children were leaving school, some ran into local shops for cover. A woman got raped by me at 8am on a Monday morning in the local woods. There are stabbings regularly and I don’t feel comfortable going into my home city centre anymore. In all honestly I feel like an unwelcome foreigner in the country I grew up in. I need to get away, I don’t want my children growing up around this. So no you’re not being unreasonable.

Where do you live?

Lollipop81 · 29/03/2025 19:50

There was a shooting by my home yesterday as school children were leaving school, some ran into local shops for cover. A woman got raped by me at 8am on a Monday morning in the local woods. There are stabbings regularly and I don’t feel comfortable going into my home city centre anymore. In all honestly I feel like an unwelcome foreigner in the country I grew up in. I need to get away, I don’t want my children growing up around this. So no you’re not being unreasonable.