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Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

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HonoraBridge · 28/03/2025 16:31

I love the UK in many ways but it has been going downhill for at least 20 years and it feels as if the speed of the decline is accelerating. I no longer see a happy, or particularly safe, future here. For the first time in my life, I am very seriously thinking about leaving the UK and that feeling gets stronger day by day. When I mention this to friends, many are feeling the same way. YANBU - you are right to think seriously about leaving the UK. YABU - the UK is a still a great country to live in and you are being unreasonable to want to leave.

OP posts:
maddening · 28/03/2025 19:07

Clinicalwaste · 28/03/2025 16:38

If it weren't for the kids schools we would be seriously considering it for the reasons you have stated. I think we are in for an even bumpier ride over the next decade. DH works in another country and i am a SAHM so if the kids schooling was more mobile and we had those options then i think we would do it.
The UK has a lot of potential to be great so i am optimistic as i also love this country. People need to do what is best for them though and if i was young i would go.

There is no reason you can't get your kids in school in your new country.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 28/03/2025 19:06

We thought about it when we retired and decided not to for various reasons. We've discussed it recently in hindsight (and having had somebody close to us ill/die overseas) and the one thing we all need to bear in mind ... you MUST be able to speak the language fluently!

crackofdoom · 28/03/2025 19:05

BatchCookBabe · 28/03/2025 18:00

This. ^ And this thread has brought out predictable bullshine comments about people who voted for Brexit. 🙄

You can't make this shit up! 😂 Every. Fucking. TIME. It's like they're just waiting for an opportunity.

Seriously anti-Brexit people, if you wanna leave the UK, (because its' such a HORRIBLE place 'since Brexit.') no-one is stopping you. But you won't go will you?! NOPE, you won't! You're all talk, and hot air, like most UK bashers/Brexit frothers.

Well yes, someone is stopping us. You are. You and all the other Brexiteers who voted to end freedom of movement.

Mirabai · 28/03/2025 19:03

No of course not.

Many here can’t leave their village or answer their front doors so be prepared to be told you’re U.

Lesphynx · 28/03/2025 19:03

Tbh, I think everywhere is a bit shit unless you're loaded. There are many places even poorer than here.

AngelinaFibres · 28/03/2025 19:01

All these people saying they'd go but they have to wait for their child to finish in education. So presumably our education system isn't that bad or you'd be off whilst they had time to benefit from the system in one of these fabulous countries.
Another poster said she'd leave but her daughter is disabled. Presumably the health care and support she's getting won't be available in another country.
My DIL is American. She lives in the UK. Will never return to live in America
My SIL is Australian. Her family are all still there. She will never return and has British citizenship. They absolutely love the UK . I have a fabulous life here too. Would never consider living anywhere else

KateShugakIsALegend · 28/03/2025 18:57

Easy to take the UK for granted.

Is it flawed? Yes, but there are so many positives, not least the rule of law.....

crackofdoom · 28/03/2025 18:53

ThymeScent · 28/03/2025 16:40

Am encouraging my own to DC to leave.
The country is a mess and with net migration massively rising and the ‘benefit’ culture rife, people who actually work for a living are being taken for mugs.

Oh the irony

LucastaNoir · 28/03/2025 18:52

Whoarethoseguys · 28/03/2025 17:06

You think there are too many foreigners in this country so you encourage your children to go and be foreigners in another country?
Don't you see the irony in that?

Haha! Yes exactly. This made me laugh. @ThymeScent - you think there’s too much migration so…you are encouraging your children to become migrants 😂

TappyGilmore · 28/03/2025 18:51

HoldingTheDoor · 28/03/2025 18:13

Go visit the Australian, Canadian, American, NZ etc subreddits. Everyone is complaining of the same things like rising costs, increased crime, housing crisis, poor behaviour in schools etc. Likewise friends in these countries have many of the same concerns. Everyone is struggling. all been through the pandemic and are still dealing with the after effects of that and other issues. Perhaps you’ll find a country that’s a better fit for you but people are struggling just about everywhere and Utopia doesn’t exist.

This is what I always think when I read these sorts of threads.

I am in NZ, I know that most of the “problems” people mention about the UK are just the same here, and in fact some things can be far worse (for example, we’ve always had very high food prices because of course it costs a lot to import stuff when the country is so far away from everywhere else, plus only two supermarket chains so no competition).

In fact I know two British families, and have heard of many others, who have emigrated here, given it a couple of years and then decided to return to the UK.

It’s just the same problems everywhere.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 28/03/2025 18:49

Go forth and find your nirvana, byeee

Mightymoog · 28/03/2025 18:48

PopeJoan2 · 28/03/2025 18:27

A couple of years ago I met a bunch of youngsters who told me they were learning Swahili as they saw some countries on the African continent as a land of opportunity (I can’t remember which) and were planning their futures there. Interesting.

I think I cba to up sticks at my time of life. Unfortunately

LOL,
wonder how that worked out for them!

Bignanna · 28/03/2025 18:47

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 28/03/2025 18:35

I’m sure the locals love it.

They really do!

theDudesmummy · 28/03/2025 18:46

Left in 2020 when it was clear that Brexit was not going to be stopped. This very week we are able to apply to get our EU citizenship back, which is fantastic. It is particularly important for my autistic son to have his EU rights.

Tootyfilou · 28/03/2025 18:41

@ThymeScent

Am encouraging my own to DC to leave.
The country is a mess and with net migration massively rising and the ‘benefit’ culture rife, people who actually work for a living are being taken for mugs.

Its not immigrants and the poor who have screwed Britain. Its 14 years of austerity and the horrific effect that has had on our population and communities.
If there was a wealth tax , rather than trying to screw over the most vulnerable in society, we might have a chance of building a better society.
But carry on with that Daily Mail headline bullshit if it makes you feel better... its certainly easier than having to put your brain into action and critically think.

Catsandcheese · 28/03/2025 18:38

I love these threads, which seem to happen a lot these days. The OP posts one post then disappears to draw out the inevitable bunfight.
I have lived abroad in Europe and thoroughly enjoyed my time there. We came home just as Covid hit, and I am glad we did.
I'm anti Brexit and wish that never happened but I am not running away now.
The country is in a bit of a state at the moment, but we have a new government, that is not Tory, and if given half a chance you never know, they might make a difference to the NHS, to education, to generally make improvements.
It seems to me that far too many people read the headlines in the daily rags/GB news and repeat ad infinitum.
For example the one upthread called out by a previous poster - they can emigrate all they like they're not the same as the illegal migrants overrunning the country here.
That is nonsense as we know if we bothered to check official figures. Our immigration numbers are driven entirely by legal visas and what have you.
It is nothing to do with illegal migrants, the number of these is very small.

Ubertomusic · 28/03/2025 18:37

Parker231 · 28/03/2025 18:12

We’re not British and didn’t want to live in a country outside the EU.

Life was good in the Uk (and prior to that in Belgium) but it’s better now we have moved.

Many of our friends have left in the past three years - Sweden, France, Italy, Portugal, Dubai... especially those with young children as childcare is a horrendously overpriced shit here.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 28/03/2025 18:35

Bignanna · 28/03/2025 17:52

A small town in Spain is all I’ll say otherwise it could be outing.

I’m sure the locals love it.

Apm GIF by Alguna pregunta més?
WaxCh1ll1 · 28/03/2025 18:34

I voted yabu as the shit show in the USA has made me realise how the grass isn’t always greener and to be grateful for what I’ve got. I live in a democratic country which won’t just roll over and let facism take over, I have free healthcare and don’t have to worry about medical bankruptcy, being deported, my kids won’t get shot in school, I’m not being bombed, I have a house , a garden and can access free libraries. Europe is close…..

the list is endless.

TryForSpring · 28/03/2025 18:31

BatchCookBabe · 28/03/2025 18:00

This. ^ And this thread has brought out predictable bullshine comments about people who voted for Brexit. 🙄

You can't make this shit up! 😂 Every. Fucking. TIME. It's like they're just waiting for an opportunity.

Seriously anti-Brexit people, if you wanna leave the UK, (because its' such a HORRIBLE place 'since Brexit.') no-one is stopping you. But you won't go will you?! NOPE, you won't! You're all talk, and hot air, like most UK bashers/Brexit frothers.

The irony that Brexit itself is stopping a lot of people leaving has passed you by?

countrygirl99 · 28/03/2025 18:30

Mightymoog · 28/03/2025 18:02

why is it so much more difficult?
I just had a quick look in case things have changed but it appears you just need a visa, proof of funds and health insrance.
Are there further things?

"Just need a visa" and do you pass the requirements?

Lovelyview · 28/03/2025 18:30

I couldn't leave my extended family in the uk. My aunt went to Tasmania and spent a lot of time moaning that no-one visited her. (We did, but not very much). When I travelled in Australia for a year I missed the rain and pubs. I think I'm too British to feel at home anywhere else. Like a pp I live in a rural area. It's safe and beautiful, with good healthcare and state schools. The UK is definitely not all the same everywhere. Having said that, if you want an adventure op, go for it.

BackoffSusan · 28/03/2025 18:29

@Fordian I don't think that's a bad thing?! I'm not bringing up my son in the hope that he wants to stay in his home town near to me when he's older. I'm bringing him up so he can travel, explore the world and live wherever he wants, free to live his life as he chooses.
I'm in Switzerland, my brother is in Sweden and my parents are in the UK. As much as they miss me, we all make the effort to see each other when we can and it's focused on quality time together. But they always emphasise they would not want me to come back to the UK with the way things are now and they would never want me to feel like I had to come back for them.

PopeJoan2 · 28/03/2025 18:27

A couple of years ago I met a bunch of youngsters who told me they were learning Swahili as they saw some countries on the African continent as a land of opportunity (I can’t remember which) and were planning their futures there. Interesting.

I think I cba to up sticks at my time of life. Unfortunately

loulouljh · 28/03/2025 18:25

The Uk is an utter mess I would agree.

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