Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

I think there is a tendency to think "But every time I go abroad it's sunny and the place is full of happy people on holiday". Not explicitly, of course, but most people haven't been to Alicante in January (it's wet and they don't have central heating), or Sydney during a 45° heatwave, or Thailand during an uprising. Nor have they seen the local news and noticed that the Prime Minister is under suspicion of massive corruption, or there's a budget deficit twice the UK's and the currency is about to be devalued 25%, or you have to wait 18 months for a hip replacement, or the police have a reputation for picking on people who look like they might be members of a historically marginalised group.

Having lived outside the UK for a few decades, DP and I can confirm that boring commutes, traffic jams, having your car broken into, strikes, encountering drunk people or beggars in town, income tax, and stupid stupid stupid bang-your-head-against-a-wall bureaucracy are everywhere. And also, unless you move to a former colony, it is hard to make friendships - proper human connection friendships, the kind where you sometimes disagree with people and you stay friends but the kind you need to say that you have your "life" in a place - without really good skills in the local language, the kind you get after 5 years or more of daily practice.

That doesn’t equate to 1.3m in benefits and a house. It includes the bare minimum in food and accommodation allowance. ‘’Housing’’ means a roof over their heads, doesn’t mean a lovely house and all the best food. Charities provide things for refugees that have been granted asylum to enable them to work and earn and integrate into society, that doesn’t equate to a champagne lifestyle, and also doesn’t make them ‘’illegal immigrants’’. Your reasoning ability is sorely lacking.

It’s not much better there!

30,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in small boats in the last 6 months - the Govenrments of today and utterly useless. If i were much younger I would move away from this overcrowded island.

Canada has all the same issues as the UK, some of them are worse.

dont really get the big deal about moving - people do it everyday.

ive lived in 6 different countries and done a lot of travel and still don’t know where il settle - if we ever do!

you’re massively overthinking it

But fucking ‘’illegal immigrants’’ are not getting 1.3m in benefits because the clue is in the name, they are illegal. The government does not know they are here, so they are not entitled to benefits. If anyone is coming here as economic migrants then they are in hiding and working for people traffickers, therefore they are not, and never have, or will, receive benefits or a bloody house. Any money they receive is the proceeds of illegal labour.

The ones in hotels are being put there while their claims for asylum are processed. That’s it. You’re talking utter shit because it suits you.

EDIT: I never said they can work while being processed, and they don’t!

What if the country they've chosen doesn't want immigrants with a disabilty?

the Majority are not shredding their documents, how do you know this, because GB News told you? The home office has ways of finding out who people are, you know. Anyone trying to illegally claim will be, and is being, deported when their applications are processed.

Other countries take more than we do, and the notion that they get everything while waiting is utter nonsense, they stay in the shittiest of hotels such as Britannia hotels who no British people stay in because they are such shit holes (I’ve stayed in one years ago, never again). If they are granted asylum, then they can stay and work and contribute, not before, but then again that wouldn’t be good enough either because they’re foreign 🤣

Brexit took with it the Dublin agreement, which made the immigration crisis far worse than it ever was before

If the shoe was on the other foot and you were in need of seeking asylum somewhere to escape persecution, you'd be very grateful if someone accepted you into their country.

This!

Yes if you have the right skills, of course.

The issue where I live is - we cannot offer a job in our country to a 'third country national', this means someone from outside the EU. We have to advertise the job and if we receive no applications from nationals, EU passport holders or Brits who are legally here pre-Brexit (with residency papers), only then can we consider third country nationals. This means going to the Ministry of Labour and providing evidence of the above, even then it might not be considered. Our company will not accept new employees who don't meet the criteria; we cannot take the risk of taking someone on whose immigration status is unverified, pending or likely to be rejected - if we get caught employing someone illegally we will be fined or even sent to prison, as will the employee.

The irony of you encouraging your DC to leave the country and become an immigrant in another country when you despise immigrants here.

Do what is best for you op, but please be aware that the problems you see in the UK that make you want to move, are not exclusive to the UK, they are happening in most countries.

I can't believe no one has mentioned Ireland. You pay to see the GP but healthcare is great. Rent/house buying is more expensive but no council tax. Tax is higher but you earn more. Childcare is significantly cheaper. Would never move back to UK

I don’t think we should speak in generalities of a large geographic area especially as the people are vilified and demonised so frequently in our media. The uae is far more safe than the Uk and there is cultural difference from the UK to France to Germany. So there is cultural difference there too. It’s not all the same country. It’s ok if it’s not your cup of tea but it’s stigmatising to term the entire region a powder keg. Furthers the ´barbarian’ stereotype.

But we are bound by international law, and if it wasn’t for Brexit things wouldn’t be as bad as they currently are now. The Tories caused this so they could use asylum seekers as scapegoats. Your life wouldn’t get any better without them. All people are doing is punching down and blaming people even poorer than themselves for the reason they are poor! Then not seeing the irony in saying they want to go and live elsewhere and become a foreigner because there’s too many foreigners in the UK.

The whole cause of Brexit was because people don’t like foreigners, even though the vast majority were paying in and contributing, that still wasn’t good enough. Rabid xenophobia! People just love to ‘other’ people. It sure does make me ashamed to be British with these attitudes being so rife these days.

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Whenever I see these regular “The UK is shit and I’m leaving” threads I always wonder why, if the UK is so awful, do so many people risk their lives to come here? Is it because they’re misinformed, and they don’t know how shit it is? This is a genuine question. Can anyone explain the efforts that people make to come here, legally and illegally?