Would Muslims be horrified if they really knew what halal slaughter involved?

That sounds reasonable, though I'd skip the prayer. All that does is fool the human slaughterer into feeling better about the killing.

And facts for you OP .

The legal exemption is to provide Halal and Kosher meat, for the Muslim and Jewish communities, respectively.

Around 88% of animals slaughtered in the UK for Halal are stunned first

All animals slaughtered under the Shechita (for Kosher) are non-stunned

Ban Non-stun Slaughter | Campaign | RSPCA - RSPCA - rspca.org.uk

There are so many similar ritual & practices between Muslim & Jewish that are from ancient times …. Before refrigeration, running water, hygiene standards.
The requirement of killing animal while it is alive and conscious probably started to prevent people from butcher a sick animal ‘ spreading disease. Same as not eating pork was because omnivores often carry worms or parasites in the meat where it is less likely in grazing animals.

Not to mention cultural norms in more fundamental groups - separation of men & women in worship, head covering, Modest clothing etc etc etc

Post supercessionism and the judeo Christian alliance ;)

If you have a problem with just halal and not the meat industry in general. Then your problem isn’t ethics it’s anti Muslim sentiment.

halal meat being slaughtered as you describe is a byproduct of capitalism. Just like the entire meat industry is. It’s to deliver cheap meat to the masses, and lots of it, cut cost where they can and maximise profits. As a result the welfare of the animals will inevitably suffer, as will frankly the quality of the meat.

the essence of halal farming and slaughter is to treat the animals with dignity from the moment of its birth to the moment of its death, recognising the sacrifice and not to over consume meat. BUT capitalism will stretch the veil of halal so thin in order to maximise profit and still stamp the halal sign.

islamically the animal must be treated with dignity and respect, fed good food left to roam , have a safe warm place to rest. At its death, it should be kept calm and have no idea what’s to happen, it shouldn’t see other animals slaughtered, and the animal shouldn’t suffer. It should be individually taken, calmed read the prayer and then its throat quickly slit.

i understand slitting the throat is graphic, but pre industrialisation that was the quickest and kindest way to slaughter an animal.

I think all slaughter of animals is morally wrong.

Don't you think 'religious slaughter' is morally wrong? Surely it is if it causes unnecessary suffering.

For the poster who says the general population do not eat Kosher meat. That is simply not true .
The general public do not support non stun and are left in a situation where they are unwittingly eating meat which is for them illegally and cruelly slaughtered

" But Defra’s latest report, based on a Food Standards Agency survey of abattoirs, showed that 51% of cattle and 43% of sheep slaughtered for kosher markets, were rejected in 2021-22.
The rejected meat was then sold as halal or to the wider public.
The figures collated in March 2022 also reveal a marked increase in rejection levels compared with the previous survey in 2018, when just 15% of cattle and 23% of sheep which had been slaughtered while conscious, were sold on to wider public markets."

Better labelling needed as kosher meat reaches non-kosher markets - Farmers Weekly

It's really odd how in the UK non stun slaughter is always linked to Muslims and the Jewish/Kosher element is always ignored - go look out screaming Daily Mail headlines etc
So to be clear you can have Halal meat that is stunned. New Zealand has banned non stun slaughter and sell Halal meat.

Non stun slaughter is ILLEGAL in the UK except for religious exemptions.
The British Veterinary Association absolutely opposes it and think it should be totally banned
The public would like for meat to be labelled as non stun but guess what that was opposed by for example Jewish groups.
It's a ridiculous situation and non stun slaughter should be completely banned
BVA - Welfare at slaughter campaign

What wasn’t factual about anything the OP said?

Of course they know. And they don’t care.

We weren't white enough 80 years ago but we're all white now. Did you not get the memo?

Why are you trying to combat possible Islamophobia by making anti-Semitic remarks?

Of course they know! They aren't stupid just they believe that if they prayer Allah will take away the pain.

Most of the halal meat is stunned first and labelled. I assume you’re only objecting to the non stunned slaughter?
From the RSPCA site, around 50% of kosher meat is rejected and is likely to end up in the mainstream food chain without being labelled.

You seem very confused. You seemed to be insinuating that religious slaughter was morally wrong and should be banned due to someone sobbing at the horror of it (while munching on a KFC).

You've done a lot of research into it but were completely unaware that Kosher animals aren't stunned either.

I did not ever know 'slaughterman' was a job title! Imagine putting that on LinkedIn!!!

The animal is going to suffer though. Like the person saying that in Kosher killings the animal can't suffer, unless you are doing a sneak attack on a cow as it grazes merrily in field it is going to suffer. It's deluded to think that no matter what way you are slaughtering then the animal isn't going to suffer in some form. That's just the way it is. It's a nasty business killing animals no matter what way you look at it.

What's appalling to me is the fact that laws are changed or bypassed in order to kowtow to unfounded beliefs. I think we should stop making allowances for or giving special treatment to any religion.

If they are stunned first, surely it's not painful? Isn't that the point of stunning them?

My extremely devout Christian grandparents slaughtered and prepped their own animals, chickens, ducks, pigs etc. With a sharp blade and no stunning, but obviously no prayers. I grew up watching and hearing it. My aunt and uncle (inherited the small farm) still do.

Is that just as appalling to you? Is the scale of it the issue for you? Is it the prayer? Is it the “other” religion?

I'm not sure they are 'taking the high ground'. Aren't they just arguing that some methods of slaughter are more humane than others?

No, I don't find it strange because most people will never come across kosher meat because it is not sold in most places and there are very few kosher abattoirs, so people don't need to avoid it if they don't like kosher slaughter practices. In contrast, most meat is automatically halal these days as most supermarkets buy it as standard as there is more demand for it and therefore far more exposure to it by the general population and it is much harder to avoid for those who don't want to eat it.

I guess people who don't like halal or kosher meat are more opposed to halal because far more animals are killed via halal slaughter and it is harder to avoid buying halal meat than kosher because it is the default meat sold in most supermarkets, whereas kosher is not.