To go abroad when working from home?

We do it all the time.

I go to my hometown and will work from my mother’s house.

I have colleagues who will go to Paris. Work from
the Paris office. Or work from their hotel in Paris. I don’t see the issue. It’s only a problem if you want to go to Australia and are on a completely different time zone.

Blimey. That question alone makes me think you could do with a bit of training on data management.

Maybe the work you do has meant you don’t need it so that’s why you don’t know? If so, your employer might be relaxed about your plan? Have a look at your employee info pack and company policies then pass it by your manager. That would be the professional thing to do.

We can usually only work from our home address when working remotely. Occasionally we can get approval to work from elsewhere for compelling personal reasons, as I was able to do when my DM broke her arm, but we have to combine it with at least two days of annual leave (which I believe is to make sure that people aren't saying that they're working whilst they're actually travelling).

Ha. I am plucking up the courage to wfh one day next month from my son’s university town 60 miles away. I would never dare to go abroad!

You will have to check with work
one of my reports went to Egypt, network instantly recognised and he was locked out & alert went to management.

Why are you asking on Mumsnet and not your employer?

Is it because you just want to do it and get away with it? Perhaps you don't want to ask your employer and be refused?!

I mean you just have to ask don't you?

If you are abroad then you're not WFH.

Do you have a right to work in "France, Spain or wherever"? If not, its a moot question. Right to work includes working from a hotel/villa/airbnb for a UK employer.

A lot of countries require a digital nomad visa if you're planning to work remotely while in the country.

One notable exception is Canada, as long as you're working for a foreign company rather than a Canadian one, you can live and work there for six months just on a tourist visa.

Citizens of some countries are required to pay tax in their home country regardless of their location, like the US. One of the main disadvantages of being a US citizen since you likely also have to pay tax in the non-US country you're in.

We don't for insurance reasons mainly. Our equipment (laptop/phones etc) we can't risk being taken abroad without company insurance which we only issue for business trips. I had a member of team try it and it got found out almost immediately and flagged to our corporate compliance team who were not impressed.

It's not worth it.

We are allowed to do this at our work with consent in advance.

why don’t you just ask?

AIBU is irrelevant - either your work allows it or doesn’t.

Mine doesn’t, I wouldn’t even be able to log into the company VPN while abroad

My employer has a blocker to prevent log-in from the wrong country, unless it's been pre-approved. Approval looks at whether you have the right to work there at all, and what the tax implications of you doing so would be.
So for example, being in Ireland 183 days in one year or 280 days over 2 years makes you a tax-resident. An employer would need to get advice on double-taxation, for each country where they let people work, and do all the paperwork to keep it legal, or they risk a huge fine.

No. My friend's 30-something daughter got a written warning for this at work, because they discovered she had been working (remotely) whilst staying in America.

Don't do it. Why do you even want to/need to?

But presumably you would be going to these countries on a holiday visa not a work visa. "Work" isn't just working for a company based in that country, it is any work, it doesn't matter what your own company's jurisdictions are. I went to the US to do some training for example - I can't remember if I took my laptop or not but if I did, I wasn't supposed to write any articles, do any interviews etc while I was there because that would be work. It wasn't my company that was against it - I was a freelancer actually - it was the US government.

It’s more about the data protection. We work with Swedish clients, for example, who only allow their data to pass through certain clouds. Sweden has really strict guidelines about where the clouds are housed, and how the info travels from A to B. Our UK base ensures that the data does travel through from A to B a certain way, and we can guarantee that we are complying with Swedish law.

Do you seriously think that a free hotel WI Fi system abroad is going to be more safe than your secure network at home in the uk?

Once when we had data security training, we were told never to connect our own personal mobile to a free wifi system because they're not safe.

Instead of arguing with us ask your employer, because what's your planning to do is take several extra holidays without using your entitlement
Be up from about that and tell your employer.

Don't be surprised if it all goes horribly wrong if you don't tell them and do it without asking.

We allow short periods of wfh abroad but we do require employees to tell us and have certain rules like being available during UK hours.

do check with your employer

there are implications with tax, employment legislation and GDPR

We’re allowed to do it, but there is a list of countries which are approved, and we must fill in an application for the specific dates and have it signed off before we go. It’s not a case of just rocking up and firing up the laptop.

Yeah. As others have said, my employer doesn’t allow it for data security reasons. I think there have been a couple of exceptions over the years to accommodate family emergencies but it has to be approved and organised with managers and IT

Depends on the company. Data policy, tax etc. You need to ask first and not assume.

One of our senior managers is essentially a nomad; he and his wife settle somewhere from a few weeks to a few months and then move on.
We are an international company, mostly working remotely so him moving around time zones has benefits.
Obviously it's all approved by the company.
I am sure I would be able to to the same, I just need a laptop and wifi. If it wasn't above board then I wouldn't, so as everyone many people have said - it's up to your company.

It's about a lot more than whether the work is getting done. There are legal, tax, cybersecurity, and data protection implications. It was an enormous legal and tax headache for companies during COVID when people thought they could randomly fuck off and work from other countries for months at a time, and most companies now have very clear policies about it. Many will allow it but only if it's pre-declared, vetted, and for a small and limited number of days. Doing it without preapproval is likely to be a stackable offence.

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