To go abroad when working from home?

Well for one I’m in control of my home WiFi security and no one else has the password. I can’t say the same of a network when I’m travelling.

But I think PP points are more about data laws and data management? We have specific contracts with our clients that allows us to move their data out of the UK to specific named other jurisdictions. We can’t just take their data to France with us (and we’re not a data heavy business, I’m like a solicitor advising someone on a house move, so someone Joe Bloggs could reasonably share confidential personal data with).

But I also wouldn’t necessarily have a visa to work in France, nor am I aware of the tax implications - but the starting point is that your salary is taxable in the jurisdiction where you do the work. So if you’re doing the work in France it’s taxable in France unless there is a relief of exemption.

For all these reasons, my employer explicitly prohibits it unless you have the right to work in another country then it’s considered on a case by case basis.

I didn’t know! She had booked leave to go a week or so later from memory, but as this was just after covid restrictions had lifted you had to self isolate going into the country she said and she didn’t want to waste her holiday isolating - fair enough and we probs would have been fine with it had IT had the chance to assess the risk. As it was she lost a days pay (as IT locked her out the system) and got a verbal warning over it.

You’ll need to check with your employer but some do; we have a ‘work from anywhere’ policy that allows us to, quite literally, work from anywhere up to 4 weeks of the year.

My therapist does this every year.
My dh does too when we go to America. But as with therapist, he has his own business.
Tax implications but with America at least, it has to be prolonged and we only ever do it for a day or two.

Not permitted in my job for many of the reasons others have listed, but also because I work in a regulated profession (legal) and there are potential concerns about 'practicing' as a lawyer in countries where you are not qualified, to the point that colleagues have been restricted from accessing work devices when attending conferences etc in certain jurisdictions. I suspect similar concerns may exist in other fields as well. There are lots of factors to consider!

I have to be within an hour and a half of the office (for no actual reason as I can do my entire job remotely).

You would need to check with your employer - mine would allow it on a temporary basis, for say, as week or two. Although there isn't a policy per se.

But elsewhere in the UK is different to working from another country where the internet security will be different from ours.

My employer has no issues with me sticking my laptop in the car and driving it to my parents to work there. They do have an issue with me flying it to a different country and logging on without permission where different rules apply.

It is the same.

We have a colleague who has family in a couple of different countries. Some she's allowed to work in when she's visiting, some she's not.

If you want to work abroad, you need to find your company's policy on it and follow that. Most likely, whether it's 3 days in Italy or 6 months in Japan, you'll have to formally request it and fill in the relevant paperwork.

If you have any customer data, or access to company sensitive information in anyway, logging on from a different country without the relevant permissions and online security could be a serious breach.

Depends on your contract/policy of the company you need to ask them, some are fine with it, others are not.

How is it not comparable. Them doing some days from the Paris office and some days from their hotel in Paris tacked onto a trip to Paris.

What is the difference?

My employee allows it. One of my colleagues has a home in Spain and he often goes out on the weekend and then works from there for the rest of the week

You'd have to check with your employer.

My sister's friend used to house-sit all over the UK whilst working from her laptop. It was pretty sweet - stay in posh houses often in lovely areas, walk the pets etc at lunchtime. Unfortunately she's now required to work some days in the office, so the house sitting is no more.

In my previous role, an American colleague was permitted to return to visit family on the west coast for a month. He didn't have the best work ethic anyway, so I was surprised. Low and behold, he pretty much disappeared off the face of the earth. His productivity nose dived and he took several days to answer any emails. Now that option is banned for all.

Not saying you would do this op! Great if you can get it.

I remember during COVID, ultra rich US business types were staying and working in Carribbean resorts for months due to the lack of time difference. Lucky for some!

I was just thinking I am doing this next week!

Not overseas though.

Going to my hometown this weekend. Booked Monday as annual leave. Working from my mother’s house on Tuesday and travelling back to London on Tuesday night.

But as others have said this is a question to ask your employer. I assume OP is worried it will seem like a cheeky question to ask.

I wonder why the OP hasn’t asked her company. Is she going to say that she’s researched and found that plenty of people do it, based on responses on Mumsnet?

Ask your employer and get a definitive answer. Either it’ll be, ‘Yes go ahead’ or ‘No’.

I think it’s a fine line between an overseas working policy and someone who would like a holiday without taking AL.

You clearly have little understanding of contractual requirements and data protection law.

It does sound fine. But I would not do it without asking employer first. If you will still get work done and no security issues then they are unlikely to have a problem with it.

We have a complicated approval process to do this and it can only be a total of 2 weeks a year at the FTE you work - so 70 hours a year for me on pre-approval, less for part-time staff. And it's not always approved.

Have you actually read the replies on your own thread??

Literally no one has said that.

They've said that you need permission from your company, there may be tax implications (depending on duration) and there may be problems with you accessing data and/or software overseas.

This is all sensible, accurate advice.

The only person who can answer your original question is your employer, but I suspect you don't want to do that because you want to sneak in some extra annual leave without telling anyone!

What she does in her own time is her own business. As long as she does her work hours it is not “annual leave” while she is working.

No you can't assume that AT ALL

If she is working how is it “holiday”?

Yes outside of work hours she will be exploring but how is that her employers business what she does in her own time?

You can assume there is nothing wrong with this and just go ahead. As long as you are getting the work done, how would they even know?

No one on here can tell you. You'd have to check what your employers policy is on this. It can have tax implications so they are very likely to have a policy (unless the company is tiny).

My employer allows it for up to 21 days a year. You can also apply for a longer period under special approval if, for example, you are from another country and wish to spend a longer period of time with your family. I've never taken advantage of the policy though as we've got a dog and very little dog care so would be really hard to do.

We are also required to ensure we use a secure internet connection and my role has some quite confidential and sensitive aspects (not all roles are affected by this) so I'd need to make sure I was logging on with privacy. So quite difficult to work around the pool/in a cafe and therefore probably not worth the bother.

Not allowed where I work unless you are allowed to work in that country without a visa. Or whatever the formal phrase is.