To go abroad when working from home?

As the different responses to your thread have revealed, you need to check with your employer. Where I work, it's allowable in exceptional circumstances only and we need prior approval. There are certain tasks/systems we're not allowed to access from overseas.

There’s cyber security issues. We had a meeting recently and only very senior staff could get authorised and they still weren’t keen for that.
You could go away in uk?

What you have to bear in in OP (I know from experience :) ) is ensure that if you have Teams meetings etc that your computer clock is showing UK time rather than European mainland time.

I repeat. Don't tell anyone. They won't allow it then if you do it it will be wrong. Just do it.

I do this all the time but I don’t make a secret of it. Have done it for years. The rise in digital nomads means that you can hire good co-working office spaces all over the world relatively cheaply. I booked a co-working space for a week in Ibiza last summer for around €100. Also found some really cheap places in southern Spain. I prefer to work in an office space when on holiday so I don’t have to listen to the kids screaming in the Villa pool and get distracted.

@StreakOfTheWeek there are other things at play rather than whether or not you are getting on with your work/whether your employer trusts you.
e.g.

1. if you work abroad for more than a certain amount of time then a decision has to be made as to where you pay tax and there may or not be special rules depending on whether for example uk has some arrangement with the country. Obviously not for a short holiday!
2. the country you work in may not allow visitors to work without a specific visa - hence the rise of what are often called ‘digital nomad visas’
3. if your employer’s liability insurance covers you (insurance generally could be a minefield)
4. some jobs it may be a hard no, if data movement is involved (due to GDPR and where data is stored/different laws etc)

many employers have a ‘work from anywhere’ policy that allows periods of working abroad but usually they state that the employee is responsible for ensuring that their destination allows it.

I’ve done it for a couple of weeks, with permission.

I'm not allowed to do this due to security (civil service) but I know some organisations that allow it for short periods of time.

Check with your work's security team (don't just assume it's OK!).

If you're actually working and getting things done, why shouldn't you, as long as it's allowed by your organisation?

I am absolutely not a techie person, but would using a VPN solve these security/data issues? Or some of them?

Feel free to laugh in my face if that’s a ludicrous comment.

Im sure there’s lots of advice out there for people wanting to be digital nomads.

The concept of network firewalls, geolocking and IP addresses has passed you by.

you aren’t comparing two home wifis. You are also ignoring all the other very valid comments. If it’s against your work policy you might get fired if you do it without approval.

Whilst I know I ‘could’ do it, I know that I ‘can’t’. So dreary old U.K. it is for me and the best I can hope for is a couple of months where it’s hot enough to sit in the back garden!

Exactly this. How she spends her personal time
is up to her.

This is a weirdly jingoistic comment.

Why on earth would you assume that British internet is somehow superior to foreigner internet?!

😂

Not really. She works from 8-2, then instead of spending the rest of her day in British suburbia, she spends it somewhere more interesting.

As long as the organization allows it, for tax, security, insurance etc reasons, what’s the problem?

This take just sounds jealous.

its data processing laws, not whether she’s doing her hours work. Perhaps think of it as there are different qualifications / entry requirements for a profession in Britain than in Timbuktu for example, it’s like that for data.

You can do it but don't tell anyone that you work with. It will get back to the management and you won't be allowed.

If you have a home working policy, you should check it. Ours says:

"Should your address change, even for a temporary period, you must inform us immediately so that we may undertake the necessary checks.

We recognise that your workplace is also your home, however, we reserve the right to visit you at home on work-related business. These visits will be arranged with you in advance but it is a requirement of your employment that you agree to such visits taking place for the purposes of, for example, conducting risk assessments on your work environment or performance reviews."

As an employer my main concerns would be:

• security of the network as we deal with confidential client information;
• if you're working from a holiday location, will we need to spend more management time ensuring the work is done as effectively as it would be from home (i.e. are you going to take the piss and just sunbathe while keeping an eye on your inbox - not saying that's you OP, but some of my staff would take a mile if you gave them an inch)
• setting a precedent for others doing the same, who perhaps aren't as reliable as OP.

It is a simple yes or no - either her company allows it or it doesn’t

This is one of those things that is theoreticalyl fine but for whatever reason, some employwers will have rules so just mention it. I have lots of clients all over the world and it's not unusual for me to dial into a call to discover that client A is not, in fact, in New York, but visiting their mother in Peru that week and working from there or whatever.

People do it and shouldn’t. Unless you have a European passport you have no right to work in the EU. Several countries will grant some kind of remote worker visa but there are strict ts & cs.

Often employers ban working from abroad as it can cause regulatory, tax and other issues for them too. Exceptions are sometimes made for U.K. employees who have the necessary passport to work remotely from that overseas country for a limited period, but again, it’s usually restricted in scope.

I'm head of tax for a large international group. It's best practice for your company to have a remote working policy, and it be stated in your contract where you are expected to work from. Where you don't have a policy or you are unsure, you should seek permission from your line manager (who in the absence of a policy should refer it to HR, tax, IT, legal etc for their approval).

Where I'm writing the policy (and I've written a few now), the answer is a default, no to working abroad. I understand that exceptions need to be made to that (usually where people have a family emergency in another country or the business needs them to go) but every single time, it must be signed off by me as the head of function and the tax considerations documented and monitored.

Don't assume, it could land you in hot water.

Boo hoo?
What does that even mean?
I hope you bring a better level of maturity to your job (if you have one)
If you have I am going to assume that it doesn't involve much reading or comprehension as many many people have said on here exactly HOW her employer would find out and what the consequences could be.
Its not your risk to take so telling OP it will be "fine" is very unhelpful.

Maybe it would be fine but only OP's employer knows that

My employer is fine with this for some locations (most EU countries that are not sanctioned). We have to obtain pre approval though and can’t exceed a number of weeks for tax reasons. Some of my colleagues that have no young children and are from EU countries get those pre approval and work from their home countries which means they don’t have to use annual leaves for those visits. We work hybrid but it’s 40% in the office so you can do all your office days in 6 consecutive days for example which means you can have 3 weeks where you don’t need to come to the office.
For DH’s employer, it’s a no.
You need to read your employers policy on this, not ask on mumsnet.

Gross misconduct where I work.
Work from anywhere upto 4 weeks in a year where DH works.

You need to check the rules where you are. They will know where you are logging in from - specially if it's an office laptop.

Boo hoo. Yes she can, chances are no one will ever find out.

I haven’t voted as I don’t think it’s a simple yes or no. My DHs company allows upto 4 weeks a year working overseas so it’s a common occurrence for them. We are looking at doing it during the summer holidays. But if his company didn’t allow it we wouldn’t even consider it.

Ask your company if they allow it.