To go abroad when working from home?

Not piss-taking at all. You just sound jealous.

My work are totally fine with it,

just ask them.

Think you’d just have to ask and be prepared to listen if it’s a no 🤷‍♀️

Why is it piss-taking? Along as she’s following company policy etc, what’s the problem? She does her hours and then has a nice time after.

Such attitudes and piss-taking spoil good stuff/ allowances for everyone.
Why not just move abroad and get a part-time job there?

You need to tell your employer as you may create tax nexus by doing that. Some don’t mind but some will want to assess the risk.
depends how big the company and what their IT set up is as to whether they notice a new IP etc. obvs better to use VPN.

My employer allows it with the agreement of a Director. IT will know where you’re joining from so worth checking what your employer’s policy is.

There are certain jobs where it can be a security breach if you take a work computer abroad and can be treated as gross misconduct.

Certainly in the civil service and certain online securities companies you could get the sack. And they'd know from where it connected to the Internet. I absolutely wouldn't risk it

You are asking a question that mumsnet can’t answer! Ask your employer!
Going behind their backs is not advisable - there could be security breaches, compliance issues, tech issues, tax implications.
We can do it, we have a formal working from abroad policy which specifies countries you are permitted to work from and for how long (tax implications). There are other stipulations too like secured WiFi, and can’t access certain systems due to confidentiality.

Make sure you ask your employer if they allow this. I would be allowed to where I work currently, but it’s down to company policy.

There will be tax implications potentially so make sure you look into that as well.

You can attend meetings and conferences in US, but need B-1 if you perform services and are paid via UK. It is super easy to apply for from UK though, you just give a letter.

Whether or not they're likely to pursue the OP for a breach of immigration law or not doesn't change it being a breach of immigration law. Obviously people do it all the time. It's not relevant whether the French government will care, it's relevant whether OP's employer will care. Any sensible employer will require OP to comply with French law as one of the conditions of allowing this. They may not insist on proof - it's likely mainly a CYA requirement so they can't get in trouble.

Business meetings are allowed under current visa rules (no idea about 40-60 years ago but I would assume so then). Working isn't. 40-60 years ago remote working wasn't a thing.

I’m the person at my company that had to review these requests. It’s different for every country. We allow certain countries for up to 45 days in a year.
There’s multiple reasons it would be turned down things like setting up a permanent establishment which would mean that your company would need to register an entity in that location and pay corporation taxes. There’s also your personal tax situation, posted worker notifications, whether you legally have the right to work in that country. Whether your employer would be obliged to pay certain benefits to you or pay NI equivalent to the local government. Whether that country has implied employment rights so you could take on their (maybe more generous) rights to certain leave. Then there’s insurance and if you have an accident whether they would be liable. Not to mention cybersecurity, whether the data you access can be taken outside the uk.

I’ve probably missed a few things too. Don’t do it without permission, it’s not worth the risk.

I do temporary contracts and usually visit family in EU in the summer.
For one employer, I had to get IT to allow me access from abroad but the other needed no adjustment.
In both cases I asked permission, although I had a working from home agreement.
A UK resident can do their usual UK employment in EU, however doing your UK job in USA would breach the terms of the tourist visa. A UK girl fell foul of this recently and was imprisoned by ICE then deported.
Be very careful about checking the rules.

From memory I think things like visits (even frequent ones) for sales purposes (visiting suppliers not selling in shops,) ,attending business fairs, meetings etc might have a get out from visa requirements, taxation and social charge requirements, possibly always have done, because they are on some sort of list of permitted business activities.

I’m not convinced entering a country to WFH for weeks on end for a UK office would be regarded in the same way by some authorities.

@travelwaffle

Whether for my Father's case 50-60 years ago or for the OP I suspect the answer is 'it depends'.

I'd be surprised if AN Other EU country like France or Spain, or UK if the situation were flipped, would be worried about remote working for a few days for an employer in your home country. but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Depends what he was doing. Business meetings usually fall under the standard visit visa/waiver exemptions. But not if he was considered to be 'working' in France. Nowhere near enough to know whether or not it fell foul of 'the rules'.

What OP is proposing isn't business meetings though, she wants to work in France.

I don’t see anything wrong with your idea. In my company we’re allowed to work remotely (ie not from home or from the office) for 3 weeks of the year but we have to have prior approval from manager.

There is a list of countries that we’re not allowed to work remotely from because of tax / security / data sovereignty reasons.

Would probably depend on the type of work you do.
If you have to connect to the network what wi-fi would you be using?
Using public wi-fi , like hotel free wi-fi would not be allowed in my job which involves access to customer data sometimes

We are, initially, talking pre Common Market between De Gaulle saying Non and his successor relenting. Later in early years of UK Membership.

He was working in France as going there to meet suppliers was part of his job. His salary was paid in the UK in £. Never there longer than Monday to Friday.

I don't believe that sort of thing would fall foul of rules now.

You are allowed but that doesn’t meant the op is allowed, it’s not a blanket rule for everyone

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it and it’s not that different from going to a conference etc abroad and working around that.
My work does have a policy that you can’t permanently live abroad because of tax issues I believe, but no real policy about what you’re talking about. I think if you asked HR they would say no but most individual managers wouldn’t really care as a one off as long as you did your work.

VPNs would make it more secure. Nothing is failsafe though.

Yes it's all good. We're allowed to work from any country that has no negative FCDO travel advisories. I think there is a 4 week limit per year per country.

You need to ask your company. It shouldn’t matter where you work from so long as work gets done but there may be technical things that need sorting. Eg do you need permission to take laptop abroad, what if it was seized at customs? I work for government and have to have a letter of carriage and if customs take my work laptop then I have a letter and customs have to call the Embassy immediately. I’m not even very senior!

Will the company’s VPN work overseas? Are you allowed to hook onto public wifi where your data could be compromised.

how does it look to other people who are working and then complain to managers that you appear to be on holiday even though you are working. You know there is someone who will moan. You probably even know who!!!! 😂