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To go abroad when working from home?

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StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 07:45

If I went to Italy or France or Spain or wherever... and logged in and did my work - would this be wrong?
I work 8-2 Mon - Thurs normally
Never have to go into office, except for 4 meetings a year.

And I would work as usual, and thought I could then spend the afternoons exploring and taking it all in.

There's nothing wrong with my idea, is there??

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aCatCalledFawkes · 28/03/2025 08:46

At my work your allowed to as long as your manager and cyber agree. I wouldn't personally as I know I would do a half arse job but some people do.

Ginmonkeyagain · 28/03/2025 08:46

Our system blocks access if you try and use Wifi or broadband in a different country. To work abroad we need to fill in an form and get permission so IT can make arrangments. I had to do this recently for a legitimate work trip (international conference).

ThisUniqueDreamer · 28/03/2025 08:44

We caught somebody logging in from florida, and we knew theyd gone on holiday and try to avoid using their annual leave for it.

A friend of mine has a girlfriend who lives in belgium, and he frequently stays during the week with her. His employer has warned him that he is never to work from belgium or log into his laptop and work from there because there are significant tax implications if he does it. He hasn't been caught yet, but he still does it.

On his own head be if he gets caught and on yours too.

m00rfarm · 28/03/2025 08:43

You need to check with your employer. Some allow, some don't, and some need a few weeks to get it set up. Usually, though, it has to be a private network - not one shared in an apartment block (for example)

TooManyCupsAndMugs · 28/03/2025 08:42

We no longer have any rights to work in Europe without a work permit thanks to Brexit. Whether anyone would be that bothered over there is another issue but technically it is illegal.

applegrumbling · 28/03/2025 08:37

You’re being incredibly naive to think there are no potential issues here!

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FumbDucker · 28/03/2025 08:36

One of my direct reports was caught out when IT emailed me asking why she was logging on from Jamaica….

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/03/2025 08:34

We can work from abroad if agreed with the company and the country is on the "safe" list. It's due to data protection etc and internet security.

Check with your employer.

Doggymummar · 28/03/2025 08:33

My partner works for an international bank and they are only allowed to work overseas when on a contract. However we were on holiday one time in Singapore and he was required to login and so went to a local branch as he didn't have his laptop with him. It was a huge (banking) emergency. I work for a small company and we have no policy. I worked from Greece last summer with no issue. So ask them would be my advice

FrozenFeathers · 28/03/2025 08:32

I can do this, as long as I have my employer's approval. It has mostly to do with data security. Access to our systems is restricted from some countries and if I suddenly login from a different location than I normally am, they are going to have questions.

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Busymindfull · 28/03/2025 08:29

It is not allowed in my Company. I believe someone was caught doing it once. What is your company policy?

BlondiePortz · 28/03/2025 08:26

What does your contract say?

TerribleGardener · 28/03/2025 08:24

In my organisation we are not allowed to take our work laptops or phones into another country so wouldn't be possible, but we are public sector so could be a security thing. I guess it depends on your employer.

Tricho · 28/03/2025 08:22

I've dome the odd day in mainland Europe, usually Friday vegore a weekend away

My company travels a lot though globally so they don't bat an eyelid data wise

GRex · 28/03/2025 08:21

RedToothBrush · 28/03/2025 07:56

Legally do you have the right to work in any of those countries?
What is your job? Anything that involves moving data moving in and out of the EU is no longer allowed due to Brexit.
Who does the laptop belong to? If it's a company laptop and company data it probably isn't insured for the above reasons.

DH is prohibited from doing this unless he has prior approval and is either on a designated business meeting and works out of a branch office.

It's basically no longer possible to do.

Your point about moving data is correct that there are many prohibited territories You're incorrect to include the UK though, these are the allowed third countries: https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/third-countries/#:~:text=The%20third%20countries%20which%20ensure,these%20countries%20is%20expressly%20permitted.

OP - just ask your HR, if it's OK then they will let you know the rules for your particular company. Usually time limit, insurance and network security (VPN, not Russia etc). Also think about how it will work practically; if you usually use screens or are somewhere with poor general wifi then it could be an issue; in those cases it can be worth identifying shared office space to rent while you're there. If you have any local clients or colleagues to meet then worth building that into your request.

newtb · 28/03/2025 08:20

To work in France your company needs to have a french subsidiary so that the social charges can bé paid. Thé équivalent of NI and are high.

CloudSquirrel · 28/03/2025 08:19

Gross misconduct where i work - not allowed to take laptop or phone out of the UK without permission. IT would know from your IP address and you'd be fired.

Crunchymum · 28/03/2025 08:18

My colleague does. They go off to France a few times a year and work from their holiday home (they may take a few days AL but often don't). If I didn't know they were away - they tell me - then there is genuinely no sign of it in terms of work / availability etc. They are as conscientious as always.

I'm not sure they've been entirely honest with our manager though. They've had permission to work from another location in the UK and manager said "as long as you are fully available and are able to keep your work commitments I don't mind where you work from" - on this basis they go over to France every few months.

We have offices in Paris so know we can legally operate in France. Our manager is in New York.

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Cucy · 28/03/2025 08:16

I think it would be a waste of money.

Would it not be better to go on an actual holiday and be able to switch off from work completely.

LittleMy77 · 28/03/2025 08:16

Depends on your company. Ours only allow it if we have an office in that country and you’re legally allowed to work there

Hoppinggreen · 28/03/2025 08:14

As every has already said you need to check with your employer.
I am a Freelancer and I tried to work from Spain last year and found I couldn't access anything.
Luckily DH is very teccy and managed to patch me into our home wifi
DH is SE but can only work from our home Wifi for security reasons, he wouldn't risk it as he would lose his contract straight away