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To go abroad when working from home?

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StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 07:45

If I went to Italy or France or Spain or wherever... and logged in and did my work - would this be wrong?
I work 8-2 Mon - Thurs normally
Never have to go into office, except for 4 meetings a year.

And I would work as usual, and thought I could then spend the afternoons exploring and taking it all in.

There's nothing wrong with my idea, is there??

OP posts:
Zanatdy · 28/03/2025 09:10

In my company it would be a major breach. We dismissed an agency member of staff recently. Depends on your company policies / security.

helpfulperson · 28/03/2025 09:10

There will be your company policies and also requirements of the country you are working in.

I do often wonder how digital nomads work. For example where do they pay tax?

Kitchensinktoday · 28/03/2025 09:09

With my employer, you can't work in the UK and live abroad, for tax reasons. But I do know a few people who occasionally work abroad for short periods, with their manager's permission.

LondonPapa · 28/03/2025 09:09

StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 07:45

If I went to Italy or France or Spain or wherever... and logged in and did my work - would this be wrong?
I work 8-2 Mon - Thurs normally
Never have to go into office, except for 4 meetings a year.

And I would work as usual, and thought I could then spend the afternoons exploring and taking it all in.

There's nothing wrong with my idea, is there??

If you handle any sensitive data, you would be out on your arse due to violations. If the company you work for doesn’t have a local office and you make them liable for taxes, you’ll be out on your arse.

If you think you can bypass security restrictions via a VPN setting location to the UK, you’ll be found out and out on your arse.

Essentially, if there is no clause saying you can work overseas for X days, do not do it as you can lose your job.

SteelyEyed · 28/03/2025 09:08

StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 09:04

This isn't the same
I'm just thinking about it maybe 3-4 times a year, away for a few days.

Then you should be fine, depending on the company of course. I have no trouble going away once or twice a year for 2-4 weeks, and a lot of posters have mentioned a 20-day allowance per year.

ThisUniqueDreamer · 28/03/2025 09:08

StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 09:04

This isn't the same
I'm just thinking about it maybe 3-4 times a year, away for a few days.

What you're planning to do is go on holiday several times a year without using your annual leave allowance to do it.

You're trying to get extra holiday days that you're not entitled to.

I think your employer will see through that. There's no good asking us ask your employer, but do not under any circumstances, do it without permission.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 28/03/2025 09:07

Depends on your company’s policies.

My company explicitly don’t allow it, to the extent that it’s written into your contract.

SagittariusDwarf · 28/03/2025 09:06

StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 09:04

This isn't the same
I'm just thinking about it maybe 3-4 times a year, away for a few days.

Any reason why you are asking on here and not your actual employer?

id be able to do what you want to do. I can do small number of days per year wfabroad. However, I have to let my line manager know in advance - I can't just prance off into the sun with my laptop and not tell anyone.

Waffle19 · 28/03/2025 09:05

As others have said, it depends on your company policies. They may have issues with taking equipment abroad. We allow it but you have to fill out a form, contact IT and it’s all done on a case by case basis. We wouldn’t be happy with someone just doing it without permission!

StreakOfTheWeek · 28/03/2025 09:04

pitterypattery00 · 28/03/2025 08:51

One of my colleagues moved abroad on a long-term basis, with the understanding she'd visit the office once every 6 weeks approximately. But she had to formally apply for this and a lot of checks had to be done regarding data sharing agreements, data storage etc.

This isn't the same
I'm just thinking about it maybe 3-4 times a year, away for a few days.

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JoyousEagle · 28/03/2025 09:03

We’re allowed to do this for four weeks a year if agreed in advance. We can’t just take off and not mention it.

cheezncrackers · 28/03/2025 09:02

Definitely depends on what you do as some jobs have jurisdictional issues around the type of work they do and where that work is done. But if there are none of those issues, then I don't see why anyone would know. Just be sure to blur your background on Teams!

Createausername1970 · 28/03/2025 09:01

TabloidFootprints · 28/03/2025 08:56

I expect she said “Are you saying she is logging in from a Caribbean island?” and IT said “Yes, Jamaica” and she said “Absolutely not, she went of her own accord.”

Boom tish

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Sid9nie · 28/03/2025 08:59

Depends on your job and possible data breaches etc. Only allowed for certain countries and jobs for us with prior approval.

Mnetcurious · 28/03/2025 08:57

Depends on the employer. I have a colleague with family in Italy and now his parents are elderly and in ill health, he is going back for a couple of weeks at a time, every few months and working remotely from there. Employers are fine with it as it’s very clear the job is still being done.

TabloidFootprints · 28/03/2025 08:56

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I expect she said “Are you saying she is logging in from a Caribbean island?” and IT said “Yes, Jamaica” and she said “Absolutely not, she went of her own accord.”

Boom tish

Psychologymam · 28/03/2025 08:54

Check if you will be able to log in - I had to spend some time with IT to figure it out (and my company knew).

Createausername1970 · 28/03/2025 08:54

Agree with the majority. Ask your employer.

My relative visits us from abroad and the arrangement he has is that he has to take the whole time as annual leave. If he keeps on top of his emails each day and responds to questions etc., in a reasonable timeframe, then he can take one or two flexi days another time.

I think what you are trying to do OP is avoid telling them and not use your annual leave.

And, edited to say, not sure if you can technically work on a tourist visa in some countries - although that might not apply to EU.

BlackWhiteCircle · 28/03/2025 08:53

Depends on your job, are you customer service for Amazon or analyst for MI5?? And which country you’re going to. If you can have secure/fast internet and work privately.
Just ask them, of course commoners can find out

LittleSF · 28/03/2025 08:53

My employer (public sector) allows this. There are conditions about the security of the wifi used to access confidential information and certain countries are ruled out but Europe is fine.

pitterypattery00 · 28/03/2025 08:51

One of my colleagues moved abroad on a long-term basis, with the understanding she'd visit the office once every 6 weeks approximately. But she had to formally apply for this and a lot of checks had to be done regarding data sharing agreements, data storage etc.

mydogfarts · 28/03/2025 08:50

As others have said, you need your employers permission.

It was banned at our work although I think someone was allowed once when their relative was dying, but the employer later regretted agreeing to that as then everyone was asking why they couldn't, so they banned it outright after that

Comtesse · 28/03/2025 08:48

We can work remotely for up to 3 weeks a year and need to complete a form beforehand and get approval from project leads. This is driven by tax implications plus data security in some territories.

“Informal bits and bobs when you are on holiday but still need to do a bit of work” don’t count towards that total (in my view anyway).

I am a joint citizen of another European country so don’t need to worry about residency/immigration when working from the EU. But you would need to think about those rules too.

FamilyPhoto · 28/03/2025 08:47

To live or for a holiday?
I live in Spain and a friend of mine has a digital Nomad visa to allow him to work for a UK company - he goes back every 6-8 weeks for meetings .
There are tax implications though.

Nannyfannybanny · 28/03/2025 08:47

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