Page 4 | To take DD 5 to McDonald's every other weekend?

quincyquince · 2025-03-27T18:51:31+00:00

She's gluten free, so has a portion of small chips and either a small mcflurry or orange juice or sauce with the chips. We go after swimming. This is ok, right? My friend thinks it's awful that she goes twice a month. But it's not like she's having the processed bread and cheese and stuff all the time?

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 19:08

cardibach · 28/03/2025 13:12

No. They. Can’t.
By scientific necessity you have children earlier rather than later in your life (if you are a woman). There are very, very few people under 40 who could stop work completely and never need to earn again. That’s what you are asking for. It’s entirely possible for that state of affairs to happen to any one of us. It’s just luck if it hasn’t.

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What hogwash. That's not even remotely what i said.
I was responding to people who said "sometimes you don't have enough money to feed kids properly because unexpected things happen." My argument is that the prudent person prepares for the unexpected, and doesn't produce offspring until they have risk management and contingency plans in place. That's basic adulting.

And it's better than "falling pregnant" with no plan and then standing around dumbfounded and with the hand out for other people's money when very common things like divorce, illness, job loss, disability, death of spouse, economic recession, etc. happen. Most people experience at least a few of those occurances at least once in their lives.

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/03/2025 18:50

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:46

Parents should always carry enough life insurance to sustain their families if they die. Can't afford the rates, can't afford the family.

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What about disabled people who can not get affordable insurance? They shouldn’t have children because they can’t get insurance?

Dollmeup · 28/03/2025 18:37

I voted wrong by mistake! Not unreasonable to take her twice a month.

Doyathinkhesaurus · 28/03/2025 18:25

She is not your friend.

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/03/2025 18:14

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:56

I was referring to the choices, not the person. Reading comprehension is a friend.

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Don’t be ridiculous. Claiming she has poor parenting judgement is most certainly referring to the person.

OneLuckyPearlUser · 28/03/2025 18:12

Hi STEPHEN here you are being very RESONABLE with using voices from Mumsnet I totally agree and know it will do well and improve the voice

DrPrunesqualer · 28/03/2025 18:07

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 17:10

Where they? Any evidence of that?

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There’s these two as examples
Stats from the Resolution foundation that not enough people save for unexpected life events.
Which the RF says, of course, they should.

To take DD 5 to McDonald's every other weekend?

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:56

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/03/2025 17:52

The irony that this is from the person who claimed OP was a poor at parenting! Is that not an ad hominem insult?

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I was referring to the choices, not the person. Reading comprehension is a friend.

faerietales · 28/03/2025 17:53

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:47

People who make ad hominem insults are just proving that they have nothing substantive to continue to the discussion.

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And what is it that you're adding that's so valuable?

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/03/2025 17:52

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:47

People who make ad hominem insults are just proving that they have nothing substantive to continue to the discussion.

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The irony that this is from the person who claimed OP was a poor at parenting! Is that not an ad hominem insult?

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quincyquince · 28/03/2025 17:51

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:47

People who make ad hominem insults are just proving that they have nothing substantive to continue to the discussion.

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You aren't adding anything to the conversation apart from people should somehow magically know all life events that will occur before having kids.

Again, presumably you have no children.

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People who make ad hominem insults are just proving that they have nothing substantive to continue to the discussion.

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 17:46

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 16:40

my cousin was married for 8 years, owne other own home, good job, they had kids 4 years later her husband died, she lost her job and struggled.

How could she have predicted that?

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Parents should always carry enough life insurance to sustain their families if they die. Can't afford the rates, can't afford the family.

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/03/2025 17:40

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 16:24

Hogwash. My family is very working class, and not privileged. But we were raised to be frugal, self-disciplined, cautious and self-reliant.

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And psychic?

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quincyquince · 28/03/2025 17:10

DrPrunesqualer · 28/03/2025 17:01

Unfortunately it’s not a big UK thing anymore.
Look at how prepared we were for Covid.
Meanwhile far more people in other countries were more likely to have savings to get them by for a while.

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Where they? Any evidence of that?

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DrPrunesqualer · 28/03/2025 17:01

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 16:24

Hogwash. My family is very working class, and not privileged. But we were raised to be frugal, self-disciplined, cautious and self-reliant.

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Unfortunately it’s not a big UK thing anymore.
Look at how prepared we were for Covid.
Meanwhile far more people in other countries were more likely to have savings to get them by for a while.

DrPrunesqualer · 28/03/2025 16:57

arethereanyleftatall · 28/03/2025 12:23

The marketing team at McDonalds have done an awesome job on making sure some people’s beliefs are that eating a McDonald’s equates to a joyous existence.

I do wonder if McDonalds started this thread
Get them all talking and the defiant will defiantly get up in the morning and go out for a McDonalds…..In defiance 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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hectorzeroni · 28/03/2025 16:45

louderthan · 28/03/2025 14:31

My mum was similar, and while I didn't have an ED all that happened was as soon as I went to uni I went crazy for crisps, sweets, chocolate and takeaways.

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No that can’t be right, according to PPs if you forbid these foods in childhood then your teens will boak at the sight of takeaways or McDonald’s, opting for cucumber sticks rather than a kebab after a night out 😅

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 28/03/2025 16:42

Just peeked at some of the previous answer here - this thread is completely mad - MN at its worst!

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quincyquince · 28/03/2025 16:40

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 16:23

So basically you're saying that people should just procreate freely with no preparation, no contingency planning, living to the hilt of their incomes, partner or no partner, etc. because poor widdle women can't control their fertility until they can provide decent conditions for childrearing?

God forbid a woman use contraception until she has a stable career, a stable partner, savings and insurance. Because some combination of job loss, economic downturn, illness, disability, divorce, SEN, eldercare and other challenges happen in each and every life.

But why acknowledge that and prepare for adverse scenarios. That's just asking far too much, apparently.

Just mate willy-nilly and let the taxpayer pick up the slack.

my cousin was married for 8 years, owne other own home, good job, they had kids 4 years later her husband died, she lost her job and struggled.

How could she have predicted that?

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/03/2025 16:37

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 16:23

So basically you're saying that people should just procreate freely with no preparation, no contingency planning, living to the hilt of their incomes, partner or no partner, etc. because poor widdle women can't control their fertility until they can provide decent conditions for childrearing?

God forbid a woman use contraception until she has a stable career, a stable partner, savings and insurance. Because some combination of job loss, economic downturn, illness, disability, divorce, SEN, eldercare and other challenges happen in each and every life.

But why acknowledge that and prepare for adverse scenarios. That's just asking far too much, apparently.

Just mate willy-nilly and let the taxpayer pick up the slack.

I did all that. We still thought that because of a run of bad luck our entire household income was going to vanish AND we had the worry that DH might have something that would kill him off. And I'm talking about all of that kicking off on the same day.

If things had gone the opposite way, because we were both on a 50/50 for keeping our jobs in the restructures, we would have burned through our savings and some of the insurances might have paid out a bit but we'd have had to stop paying premiums and then later on we'd have not had them anymore.

Then we'd have been looking for two jobs. Going through chemo. With a 3 year old, who we wouldn't have been able to afford to keep in nursery while we were looking for jobs. So that's her place lost.

Money will only last a finite amount of time. You cannot plan for every eventuality. You can't even fathom some of the shit life might throw at you to be able to have a plan for it.

I asked you earlier and you didn't reply to me, probably because you haven't got an answer. What would your contingency have been here? Send DD back? Because we were very prepared to have her, we can survive on one (either) full time salary, albeit too tight for some of the things we would want, but having everything wiped out at once in a fluke, how do you plan for that?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 28/03/2025 16:36

We went through a phase where DS had a happy meal most Friday nights. He’s grown up just fine, strong, healthy, exercises etc. As I think of it, I used to get a happy meal too - one of us would have fries and one a fruit bag and we’d split them. Used to collect the little toys .

Moonnstars · 28/03/2025 16:36

Not sure why the gluten free info was relevant as surely your question is just whether it's reasonable to go to McDonald's every other week?
Personally I think she would get bored of it eventually. What's the reasoning behind going? (Not sure I could find one). Is it meant to be a treat? Is it that is more convenient than having to cook later?