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Why do MPs get subsidised food?

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IShotTheDeputyItWasMe · 27/03/2025 13:51

Ok, if they are travelling, they should not be out of pocket. Like many workers, they should be able to claim reasonable expenses depending how long they are away on work trips etc.

However, I've never known any pubpic sector workplace put alcohol on expenses as standard. I've also never known any workplace to pay for their workers lunches when they are in their normal place of work.

Some companies may run a subsidised canteen but that will come put of the company profits, not the public purse.

Basically, why do we pay to subsidise food and then pay again to cover unreasonable food costs?

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amusedbush · 27/03/2025 19:45

I work in the public sector (support staff in an FE college).

We are still expected to be in the office four days a week during the summer, when the students and lecturers are off - except the canteen is closed for the full six week break. The college is in a very quiet residential area and the closest shop/cafe is a 15 minute walk away. Senior management send out a helpful end-of-term reminder that there are vending machines in the foyer, though 🙃

It wouldn't kill MPs to take a sandwich to work.

Justasmallgless · 27/03/2025 19:45

Police officers have many restrictions on their private lives too, probably more than MPs and for their whole career. It impacts on children too. Off duty you have to be so careful but if you don’t intervene when you see a crime then you face discipline.

Very few canteens left now after austerity and those working shifts have to take food with them. The number of shifts you get kept on working late is ridiculous and although you can claim expenses for them, not many do as you jump through hoops for it. And rightly so, as it’s public money.

Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas though so I can’t see any changes to MP privileges coming any time soon.

Changeissmall · 27/03/2025 19:40

Almahart · 27/03/2025 17:30

I agree. I used to be in the civil service, we didn't even get teaspoons or milk to put in our tea

There’s a fund now called the ‘Fix it fund’ where we can bid for things such as teaspoons and coffee makers. Anything small and inexpensive that’s not allowed to be bought from office budget. Definitely not milk though!

There is a real disconnect in the CS with extreme penny pinching in some areas then massive waste in others. I am Home Office but spent a few years in FCDO and those Foreign Office people spend like crazy.

Agree the MPs should lead by example. Subsidised food not appropriate.

TheGoogleMum · 27/03/2025 19:36

In the NHS website get no discount on food or drink at the hospital. I don't think MPs should get a discount. Why not take a packed lunch like we have to if we want to keep things cheap?

GasPanic · 27/03/2025 19:34

MissMarplesNiece · 27/03/2025 19:26

The Members Dining room. On the menu:
Pressed duck leg and caper terraine with celeriac and mustard remoularde and sour dough toast £4.52
Pan fried salmon with courgette provancale, buttered croquettes potatoes, black olive crumb and a chive cream sauce £7.33
Gooseberry & hazelnut cake with creme fraiche £2.70
Wonder where else in London you can get that sort of food at that sort of price?

To those talking about long hours in the House of Commons etc, the latest the House sits is on Mondays when it's from 2.30 pm to 10.30pm. Tuesday & Wednesday its 11.30am until 7.30pm, Thursday 9.30am till 5.30 and most MPs go back to their Constituencies on Friday. So no more than an 8 hour day and as anyone who has watched Parliament channel on TV will know the House is rarely even half full.

I appreciate there are committees etc going on but I doubt if their hours are any different.

Suppose it depends whether you factor in the cost of providing the MPs with security when they are dining out, and the cost and time of transiting backwards and forwards to all those restaurants of course.

AngryBookworm · 27/03/2025 19:33

I'd be happier about subsidising late night food if NHS workers got a guaranteed right to something similar. It's OK that they have a work canteen but they should be getting coffee and unexciting canteen food, not having subsidised alcohol and fine dining. Doesn't seem too much to ask.

MyLimeGuide · 27/03/2025 19:30

Whinge · 27/03/2025 19:22

That's incredibly unusual, unless you work in a private school.

Not private. SEN. But yeah my sister works at a private school and gets free lunches.

MyLimeGuide · 27/03/2025 19:27

Coffeeishot · 27/03/2025 18:34

I mean why do they need the pub at work?

Hospitals have bars too for workers- cheap prices for staff, same thing.

GasPanic · 27/03/2025 19:27

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/03/2025 19:13

Uber Eats delivers in London, so I hear.

Yeah I can imagine all those guys on e-bikes going through security.

Or maybe the MPs waiting in a big crowd outside ready to snatch food from them as they turn up.

No security risks there at all.

MissMarplesNiece · 27/03/2025 19:26

The Members Dining room. On the menu:
Pressed duck leg and caper terraine with celeriac and mustard remoularde and sour dough toast £4.52
Pan fried salmon with courgette provancale, buttered croquettes potatoes, black olive crumb and a chive cream sauce £7.33
Gooseberry & hazelnut cake with creme fraiche £2.70
Wonder where else in London you can get that sort of food at that sort of price?

To those talking about long hours in the House of Commons etc, the latest the House sits is on Mondays when it's from 2.30 pm to 10.30pm. Tuesday & Wednesday its 11.30am until 7.30pm, Thursday 9.30am till 5.30 and most MPs go back to their Constituencies on Friday. So no more than an 8 hour day and as anyone who has watched Parliament channel on TV will know the House is rarely even half full.

I appreciate there are committees etc going on but I doubt if their hours are any different.

Whinge · 27/03/2025 19:22

MyLimeGuide · 27/03/2025 19:20

Who cares if they get free lunch!! I get free lunch at my school every day too.

That's incredibly unusual, unless you work in a private school.

LilyOfTheValleySoon · 27/03/2025 19:21

I’m sorry but Parliament IS theur place of work! They aren’t the only workers who have to be at two places.

And there are always restrictions on how you can spend. No way would a company or the CivilService would agree to pay back alcohol and the posh meals found there!

So yes, history and then being ‘gentlemen’, whatever it means these days.
But at the time where the government is happy to make 50.000 more children living in poverty, 300.000 more adults, then it’s really hypocritical and keaves a very bad taste.
If austerity there is, then MPs should be affected too. Not safe in their little bubble.

I feel it’s true for other of their expenses btw,

MyLimeGuide · 27/03/2025 19:20

Who cares if they get free lunch!! I get free lunch at my school every day too.

ADreamIsAWishYourArseMakes · 27/03/2025 19:16

£7 million in public money was used to subsidise dining in the house of commons, it's appalling. Nurses have to pay for parking and earn 1/4-1/3 of an MP's salary.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/12/food-bank-calls-for-end-to-subsidised-dining-for-mps

If they need to stay late at work they should fo what most London offices do and offer a free takeaway.

Food bank calls for end to subsidised ‘fine dining at meal deal prices’ for MPs

Campaign aims to draw attention to millions spent on Commons catering despite millions using food banks

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/12/food-bank-calls-for-end-to-subsidised-dining-for-mps

Wakemeupbe4yougogo · 27/03/2025 19:16

DH's brother was a chef in the Houses of Parliament. He had some great stories about the MP's and them eating better than the then Queen.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/03/2025 19:13

GasPanic · 27/03/2025 17:30

They do sometimes work crazy hours late at night etc so my guess is that it is in someway compensation for the fact that they can't always prepare their own meals.

Otherwise they would probably be living out of a sandwich box and eating tuna baps crisps and diet coke 24/7.

Uber Eats delivers in London, so I hear.

ImAChangeling · 27/03/2025 19:13

MPs and visitors should be paying market rates for their food. Maybe there should be £1 added to each meal, with proceeds going to charities fighting child poverty in the most deprived areas of London.

NoSoupForU · 27/03/2025 19:11

user1471538275 · 27/03/2025 17:27

They are public sector workers.

They should act like it and be treated like it (which will be a shock for them)

They should not accept any freebees other than trivial or token gifts (ie box of chocs/wine) like other public sector workers

They should pay for daily work expenses to their main office like other public sector workers - thinking NHS - so pay for their parking/travel/food

If we get the 'need the best people' rubbish - I would ask do we not need the best people to run our hospitals and other public services?

Their main office is their constituency office.

Very very few MPs claim for meals on their expenses. People seem to be calling for a tightening up that's already happened.

NoSoupForU · 27/03/2025 19:09

You're talking about the house of commons? Presumably it's because they can't exactly just nip to Tesco and grab a meal deal.

But thousands of people work in the house of commons. And most of them aren't well paid.

My workplace runs a subsidised deli.

Emanresuunknown · 27/03/2025 19:07

superking · 27/03/2025 18:36

There's no "free" food in Parliament. As others have said, the prices are roughly comparable to a staff canteen in other offices. I usually pay between £3-7 for a hot canteen lunch in Parliament.

And MPs only make up a small fraction of people who work in Parliament - about 10% I think? Most of the people using the canteen are not MPs and are paid far less!

I'm not saying there isn't a debate to be had about how we remunerate MPs (personally I think they are actually underpaid and their stress levels, hours worked and compromises to home/ family life mean you couldn't pay me enough to do their job). But that's for another day!

Very very few workplaces now have a canteen. £3-7 is extremely cheap for a hot meal in central London most workers will pay far more than that.

Public sector here and yeah we count ourselves lucky to get cheap instant coffee for free. Nothing is subsidised, the vending machines our place charge a fortune for a measly bag of crisps.
And we earn way less than MP's 🙄

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 27/03/2025 19:04

GasPanic · 27/03/2025 17:37

No they are actually on shift work. So they can prepare decent meals off shift if they wish.

People on shift work are often working 12 hour shifts though, sometimes plus overtime, and they do this every week.

Emanresuunknown · 27/03/2025 19:04

ilovesooty · 27/03/2025 17:39

Don't they have to pay for their constituency staff out of their salaries?

No of course they don't! There's a budget for their constituency office. Of course they don't pay their staffs salaries 😂

UltraHorse · 27/03/2025 19:03

If only other people could have a salary of 94 thousand and perks on top They don't even have to turn up in parliament or give people appointments A lot of people would love their lifestyle And didn't Rachel say cuts have to be made make their wage more reasonable

GinandGingerBeer · 27/03/2025 18:59

I was just coming on to say the same as @AlmahartWe have to provide our own teaspoons to make a cuppa with the coffee and milk we’ve lugged in ourselves. It’s disgraceful the expenses they can claim. It really needs to stop.

xanthomelana · 27/03/2025 18:56

superking · 27/03/2025 18:36

There's no "free" food in Parliament. As others have said, the prices are roughly comparable to a staff canteen in other offices. I usually pay between £3-7 for a hot canteen lunch in Parliament.

And MPs only make up a small fraction of people who work in Parliament - about 10% I think? Most of the people using the canteen are not MPs and are paid far less!

I'm not saying there isn't a debate to be had about how we remunerate MPs (personally I think they are actually underpaid and their stress levels, hours worked and compromises to home/ family life mean you couldn't pay me enough to do their job). But that's for another day!

Underpaid?!?! The basic salary is £91,346 plus expenses. My heart bleeds for the poor souls.