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To stockpile 72 hours of supplies

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seriouslessness · 27/03/2025 13:23

..in case of disaster or attack. A new preparedness strategy inspired by Nordic countries and Germany, who already do this.

Is this something you already do, or will do?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/26/stockpile-supplies-72-hours-disasters-attack-eu-tells-citizens

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marsaline · 29/03/2025 20:13

marsaline · 29/03/2025 20:03

well solar doesn't work unless you also have islanding capability and then even if you do it will probably only give you enough to run one appliance.

unless of course you have a tesla powerwall in which case, sorry (although I rather like the irony of the powerwall saving you from attacks which currently look like they're as likely to come from the mad americans as the russians..)

marsaline · 29/03/2025 20:03

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2025 16:08

Depends if you have solar or not!

well solar doesn't work unless you also have islanding capability and then even if you do it will probably only give you enough to run one appliance.

rainbowunicorn · 29/03/2025 18:41

LaurieFairyCake · 27/03/2025 14:41

Everyone keeps saying water 🤔 I can’t imagine a scenario where the taps ran dry. I’ve never bought bottled.

Really? I find it very hard to believe that any adult would be unable to see that the taps could indeed run dry very easily with no warning.

Burst main
Problem at the treatment plant.
Cyber attack on the software that runs the treatment plant.
Contamination.
Just a few reasons that you could be left without water for several days at a time.

NotsosunnyShropshire · 29/03/2025 17:37

OneTC · 29/03/2025 16:04

Been a bumper week in sales on tinned food and dried pulses and pasta in our shop.

It's not at panic buying levels yet but we've seen sales across those sectors more than double in the last week

I bought or restocked a few bits and pieces for my Brexit/covid/winter cupboard on Amazon (UK) and the numbers of recent sales was noticeably higher than usual. So, it would seem that some people are quietly taking notice of the advice.

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 17:19

llizzie · 29/03/2025 17:08

Did you know that jiffy foam can also relieve pain? The body warms it, and it brings blood to the surface of the bone or muscle causing pain. It acts like a hot water bottle, only is much safer.

You may have to change it or wipe the skin, because it does produce sweat when very warm.

I wouldn't do without it. CIDP is an crippling inflammatory of the central nervous system, which causes pain without underlying problems. It saves on the pain killers.

No I had never heard of that. Or even think of having some at home. That is actually good knowledge, thank you.

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llizzie · 29/03/2025 17:08

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 15:10

We’ve been told to always keep tea lights in our cars. I wouldn’t have thought there would be much heat coming off them but apparently there is. Jiffy foam is pretty good. My friends were going to the airport (missed 4 flights) but it was to Florida so no warm clothes! 😅

Did you know that jiffy foam can also relieve pain? The body warms it, and it brings blood to the surface of the bone or muscle causing pain. It acts like a hot water bottle, only is much safer.

You may have to change it or wipe the skin, because it does produce sweat when very warm.

I wouldn't do without it. CIDP is an crippling inflammatory of the central nervous system, which causes pain without underlying problems. It saves on the pain killers.

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 16:55

I bought a lifestraw bottle years ago, but never actually dared try it! You’re supposed to be able to drink dirty water.

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OneTC · 29/03/2025 16:32

You can still boil/sterilise back supply water for drinking though.

BurntBroccoli · 29/03/2025 16:22

Genevieva · 29/03/2025 09:42

But most people have a tank of water that supplies their taps.

No - not these days. Your cold water supply comes from the mains except in older houses that may not have been converted. The reason is so that the cold supply is not contaminated by things like rats or mice which may have crawled in there and drowned…

BurntBroccoli · 29/03/2025 16:18

varden · 29/03/2025 14:11

Just to add, I make my own wholemeal soda bread with added flax and chia seeds. I can tell you now a loaf of that will keep OK for nearly a week. I know this as I have been eating last Sunday's bake off all week! Ok it might go a bit crumbly after a few days and the crust can go hard, but I just cut that off!

I normally would make two big loaves and cut each into three and freeze the portions, but I couldn't find room in the freezer for the last batch, so just ate it as it was. It was fine. So I'd have bread for more than 72 hours. Do I win the prize 😊

I love homemade soda bread. Do you make yours with yogurt?

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2025 16:08

MrsResponder · 29/03/2025 12:14

People talking about a fully stocked freezer, it's not going to be of much use if the grid goes down. Unless you plan on beating the enemy to death with a frozen leg of lamb in the first 24 hours.

Depends if you have solar or not!

OneTC · 29/03/2025 16:04

Been a bumper week in sales on tinned food and dried pulses and pasta in our shop.

It's not at panic buying levels yet but we've seen sales across those sectors more than double in the last week

SoOxon · 29/03/2025 16:03

StarlightLady · 29/03/2025 04:19

Buy a wine rack! Sort your priorities out 😀.

or dig a cellar! and an ice house whilst you are down there

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 15:10

llizzie · 29/03/2025 14:37

You need a roll of Jiffy foam in a car and store room, to keep warm. It comes in so many thicknesses you can wear it too, as well as insulate.

We’ve been told to always keep tea lights in our cars. I wouldn’t have thought there would be much heat coming off them but apparently there is. Jiffy foam is pretty good. My friends were going to the airport (missed 4 flights) but it was to Florida so no warm clothes! 😅

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llizzie · 29/03/2025 14:45

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2025 07:30

Everyone keeps saying water 🤔 I can’t imagine a scenario where the taps ran dry. I’ve never bought bottled

How does water get to your house?

The water is then transported to a water treatment plant where it's filtered and treated to remove impurities and ensure it's safe for drinking and use.

After treatment, the water is stored in reservoirs or tanks and then pumped through a network of underground pipes called water mains.

So if the water treatment plant is no longer operational and the water pumps no longer have electricity

Here are some possible reasons - flooding, high winds taking down power lines, fire, mechanical faults or lack of maintenance, supply chain distribution due to wars or terrorism or canals being blocked by an accident elsewhere in the world, overwhelmed system pressures due to lack of critical staff - think pandemic, civil unrest preventing access, computer failure or malfunction possibly due to malicious intervention, lack of robust contingency planning by authorities

Other places also have to consider things like earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes...

What do you think might happen?

Think about how quickly Heathrow descended into meltdown with one fire!

One place I lived the electricity was cut off, the mains water pump froze and the ground was covered in snow. We had to fill a pan with snow and boil it over the fire. Wasn't that long ago, either.

llizzie · 29/03/2025 14:37

seriouslessness · 27/03/2025 15:07

I live in Sweden and have not been cut off in 20 years. I do keep stuff in my car, because that is where it’s easy to get stuck in snowy weather. I have friends who got stuck in their car for 48 hrs a year ago (together with 1000 other cars and trucks).

You need a roll of Jiffy foam in a car and store room, to keep warm. It comes in so many thicknesses you can wear it too, as well as insulate.

MrsMitford3 · 29/03/2025 14:13

Panseypotter · 29/03/2025 13:27

Sorry but anyone needing fabric softener in the zombie apocalypse is going to die😀

It's how they get weeded out.

Survival of the fittest 😂

varden · 29/03/2025 14:11

Just to add, I make my own wholemeal soda bread with added flax and chia seeds. I can tell you now a loaf of that will keep OK for nearly a week. I know this as I have been eating last Sunday's bake off all week! Ok it might go a bit crumbly after a few days and the crust can go hard, but I just cut that off!

I normally would make two big loaves and cut each into three and freeze the portions, but I couldn't find room in the freezer for the last batch, so just ate it as it was. It was fine. So I'd have bread for more than 72 hours. Do I win the prize 😊

Panseypotter · 29/03/2025 13:27

caringcarer · 28/03/2025 00:22

I could probably manage for 3 months or more. I've got 2 freezers full of meat and vegetables. A large stock of tins and dried goods and loads of washing powder, fabric softener, loo rolls etc. I've also got 4 dozen of bottles of water and long life milk. My DS says I could feed the street. He's teases me but I noticed during COVID he was very glad I could give him a couple of boxes of paracetamol, hand wash liquid and loo rolls. I let him take some for one of his mates too who couldn't get any paracetamol or loo rolls. I buy in bulk with 48 rolls in each pack and always have 4 packs.

Sorry but anyone needing fabric softener in the zombie apocalypse is going to die😀

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 12:28

MrsResponder · 29/03/2025 12:24

True but not necessarily a safeguard in the apocalypse, which I thought was the context. Better to have preserved foods that need minimal preparation and provide maximum calories and nutrition.

It wasn’t the context of the article. But if you are going to pick either full freezer or cupboard then it’s better to have what you describe.

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MrsResponder · 29/03/2025 12:24

True but not necessarily a safeguard in the apocalypse, which I thought was the context. Better to have preserved foods that need minimal preparation and provide maximum calories and nutrition.

seriouslessness · 29/03/2025 12:18

MrsResponder · 29/03/2025 12:14

People talking about a fully stocked freezer, it's not going to be of much use if the grid goes down. Unless you plan on beating the enemy to death with a frozen leg of lamb in the first 24 hours.

Some people like to have a full freezer in case of things like unemployment, illnesses or even pandemics or generally not being able to leave your house for a while.

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MrsResponder · 29/03/2025 12:14

People talking about a fully stocked freezer, it's not going to be of much use if the grid goes down. Unless you plan on beating the enemy to death with a frozen leg of lamb in the first 24 hours.

milveycrohn · 29/03/2025 11:49

@LaurieFairyCake
"Everyone keeps saying water 🤔 I can’t imagine a scenario where the taps ran dry. I’ve never bought bottled."
Sorry, I meant to say that my DM was without water (her area) for at least 24 hours - south east London in the 1990s. Can't remember the reason tho.

milveycrohn · 29/03/2025 11:47

@LaurieFairyCake
"Everyone keeps saying water 🤔 I can’t imagine a scenario where the taps ran dry. I’ve never bought bottled."