To be upset a brothel has opened next door to my child's school

I was happy to go along with it for the sake of discussion if such a scenario were real.

Since you mention it, it does seem like an odd choice for someone to decide next to a school would be a good choice for a brothel. Surely they must have known people would quickly find out what it was and the parents of the school students would lose their minds over it and make reports to the council and police?

Oh you poor naïve person. You really think brothels are staffed by consenting adults?

CerealKiller, you appear to be somewhat hard of thinking. I said very clearly that this isn't a matter of quantifiable 'proof' because it's a matter of definition. There is an agreed definition of 'consent' in the context of sexual matters. And I think most reasonable people would agree that part of that is that 'consent' cannot be purchased. If you HAVE to pay for sex, this is something that would not otherwise happen. Lots and lots of posters have spelled this out to you, so why do you appear to find it so hard to understand? I honestly do hope you're just a troll, and not someone who has anything to do with children in RL.

So no, it's not a matter of proof. You're using this same phrase again and again like you think you're some sort of Jeremy Paxman-like God of Debate. It makes you look extremely foolish - quite aside from the whole issue of how you seem bent on normalising men paying women for sex.

I am concluding the OP has made this up too

I mean why would anybody open a brothel next to a school. I don’t think this happens IRL

I really think Mumsnet needs an option to vote “this post is BS” along with another that says “no I am not helping you write an article / TV script / do your sociology homework”

It's prostitution, Christina, not 'sex work.' Every time it occurs, it damages women and girls in the wider society as well as the prostituted woman.

N. Ireland and the ROI have the Nordic Model (NM), thanks to strong support from the churches there the NM bill sailed through parliament easily. In Britain sexwork is legal with restrictions.

It's worth nothing working in a brothel is still illegal under the NM. There may be other laws or restrictions re sexworkers too under the NM (which doesn't even pretend to be about harm reduction) such as preventing landlords from renting to sexworkers or sexworkers being investigated by Social Services (in Sweden selling sex is seen as a form of self harm). They may have to lower their prices and clients may become more controlling to avoid being caught such as wanting the meeting to take place in a more secluded location. Also very difficult to enforce as obtaining evidence is difficult and sexworkers are usually not willing to testify against their clients (not necessarily because they "like" their clients, they probably don't, it's simply because that's their business and source of income).

My view is that these activities are far safer taking place in venues like this than dingy flats.

Irrespective of your view, the ‘customers’ and ‘staff’ will be pretty keen to operate discreetly I’d have thought, so I wouldn’t envisage any issues with the school.

They buy women's bodies for sex. Of course they're disgusting and predatory.

Morals aside, it will be a large increase in traffic and parking if men are coming and going every hour. It is not going to be attracting lovely decent law abiding men so could easily increase peripheral asb, eg shouting and anger if non payment issues occur, which you don't want children to be exposed to. Pimps invollved may carry weapons and large amounts of cash. Seriously none of this is conducive to a healthy happy neighbourhood in which vulnerable children will be coming and going from day in day out.

I'd be livid and would report this like billyo. Plus yes put up photos of customer licence plates on FB.

If men who pay for prostitutes are really decent men they'd give the woman money and just leave her alone.

This new craze for normalising "sex work" is really unpleasant.

Funny, I don't know any prostitutes - or men who admit to using them. We obviously move in very different circles!!

But of course you can't have a brothel next to a school. They are illegal for starters. And for good reasons.

Can you explain why the men are abusers? I know plenty of prostitutes (none forced to do it and most enjoy their job, the ones that don’t particularly just look at it as a job apart from one who does it to support a drug habit) and a few of them feel empowered but certainly none feel abused. In turn I know plenty of men that use prostitutes who are normal blokes who you wouldn’t glance at twice in the street, apart one one who makes my skin crawl and is creepy af, but he made me feel like that before I knew he was a customer of someone I know. Yes there will be some skanky men and women involved in the business but id be more worried about a drinkers pub next to a school than a brothel

Who in their right mind would think that this is Ok ?
Speak to the council and Headteacher. If all else fails take pictures of the clients and plaster all over Facebook! I’ve done something similar, with a group of other women, in the 1980s and it worked. Cost us a fortune in printing though.

100% this. ^

I think OP is probably making it up, yes. Unless I see any evidence.

Presumably it is staffed by consenting adults and the clients are the same,

"Presumably" is doing a fuck-ton of heavy lifting there, @LBFseBrom. Far more likely to have ben trafficked, coerced, groomed or trapped by addiction. You only have to listen to the women who've escaped prostitution to know this.

Every man who buys a woman's body for sex is a predator by definition. The sooner the Nordic model is brought into UK law, the better.

I’d see a swingers bar where the attendees choose to go for their own enjoyment, and as long as they are considerate of locals and presumably children are not allowed, is not much different from any other kind of bar.

And NOT the same as a ‘massage parlour’ / brothel.

Apologists in this thread: Oh but the kind of men who pay to fuck women could never possibly be a danger to children! How could you even think such a thing? They are all so wonderful and completely harmless and trustworthy and they thoroughly understand consent and I just love dating them because I am so super cool.

The OP talks about 'older children' who attend this school. If 'older children' don't mean primary school age children, but girls of 14, 15, 16, 17, would you still be OK with claiming that men who pay to fuck women couldn't possibly be interested in them? And would never in a million years try to hit on the girls when they walk past the brothel alone?

I already have…but seeing as you are either a man or a woman with a weird fetish I doubt it will change your beliefs much, however much evidence is presented, seeing as empathy is generally lacking in those who use paid for sexual services.

Perhaps the real world is safer than online in this case.

Are you actually expecting the OP to tell you where her DC go to school? And it's not far-fetched in the slightest.

In general I would agree with you. Though I can imagine a teenage girl/young woman being stared at by such men or asked sexually based questions. At any school.

Plenty of threads about sleazy men and MN members daughters.

Where is this? Sounds a bit far-fetched.

As opposed to gardeners who want to garden, masseuses who want to massage, plumbers who want to unblock drains, baristas who want to serve coffee?

Almost everyone works for money. That in itself doesn't invalidate the consent of the transaction. On the contrary, it defines it.

Yep on Lumb Lane the locals took all the kerb crawlers license plates and published them in a local paper. You don't see prostitutes there any more.