To be upset a brothel has opened next door to my child's school

None. She’s a grown adult woman and is fully capable of making her own choices. Different people have different expectations for their relationships marriages and I don’t view there as being a “correct” way. As long as nobody is being harmed.

The only view I have is it is not for me…but that applies to a lot of relationship models I see around.

You must have an opinion or some level of concern about your friend's life though.

I have no view on whether it is “healthy”.

That’s their life and they are happy with it. I am not the arbiter of the “correct” way to have sex.

You think that's a healthy way of living? That your friend with "benefactors" (she's a prostitute, no matter what she wants to call it) refusing to have sex with any man unless they pay her has a normal healthy attitude to sex?

I mean. Oh. Conundrjm

those who change a fiver are usually due to the stats homeless and addicted to something.

that’s the answer to your wiestion

tada!!!

An again you’re clumping them alltogetber

do ALL civil workers hate their job? Are they all forced to do something?

again not all wil be trafficked.

you need to realise that you cannot talk for a entire part of the human race.

I recommend Paid For by Rachel Moran. Not many books have ever made a greater impression on me.

That's a lie. Many former prostitutes are part of groups which wish to corral prostitution and limit it - their testimony is often heartrending. A fictionalised portrait of the realities of prostitution is found in JKRowlings' 6th Strike novel, Troubled Blood. It's part of the subplot surrounding one of the suspects in the cold case being investigated (and strangely omitted in the BBC series, perhaps because the suspect in question - a doctor - has a fetish, he likes sex with woman who play dead).

High end prostitutes call themselves escorts - they don't associate themselves with "sex work" and they tend to keep their profession secret. Only women whose lives are chaotic and who have nothing to lose seem happy to be honest about what they do.

It is not a business that can be normalised.

If there are so many women who are happy to be prostituted, why are there so many women and girls trafficked?

If being a ‘sex worker’ is so empowering, why is it not a career choice promoted in schools?

If high end escorts prove what a lucrative career it is that they freely choose, why are there any women ‘choosing’ to offer blowjobs in ally’s for a fiver?

It’s also odd how it’s primarily women who are prostituted not men.

It’s a conundrum.

What these campaign groups all have in common is that they espouse the views of people (who in many cases have never been sex workers) but want to tell other women what they can and can’t do.

The voices of those who actually choose this type of work are conspicuous by their absence.

Who is not anti-sex work? It chimed with much that I know and apprehend about prostitution. You can take out the anti-sex work attitude and still see that prostitution is about exploitation and degradation.
Or would you be happier if I gave a description of prostitution from the pov of pimps and pornographers?

Again, I’m not sure that an anti sex-work website is going to offer an objective or balanced assessment.

Here you go, @Cerealkiller9000 The article is this: Legalized Prostitution In Germany Looks Like A Living Nightmare (PHOTOS)
Link won't be shared for some reason, but the article is findable on the home page.
The article is on thread 'Men urged to give up using prostitutes.
https://fightthenewdrug.org/germanys-legalized-prostitution-industry-looks-like-a-real-life-horror-movie/
Ah, that worked!

It’s not going to offer the perspective of women who want to make their own choices rather than be told who they’re allowed to have sex with though, is it?

If you’d bothered to read my post rather than your knee jerk to put men and their boners front and centre, the article and the quotes were only from the men’s perspective. It was not about happy hookers, I don’t think how the women felt actually crossed their minds at all. They thought, rather like you seem to, that their boners were the only thing that mattered.

I'll have a look.
It was on another thread here: men urged to stop using prostitutes. The link was put up by @RethinkingLife. Link is https://fightthenewdrug.org/germanys-legalized-prostitution-industry-looks-like-a-real-life-horror-movie//germanys-legalized-prostitution-industry-looks-like-a-real-life-horror-movie/ (have typed in - not sure why it would not paste). It has photos but I could not get them to open. Not sure how to ask if okay to share so fingers crossed it's ok.

That's OK then, we can ignore these stories and pretend there is a group of women extremely happy with their life choices out there?

Look at Anora. That's supposed to be sex worker positive but her life is pretty awful and she tries to escape it at the first possible moment.

Good try on the contracted work argument

We can ignore child workers for now

But what about the ability to obtain Specific Performance orders from the court where an adult contracted to provide service to a adult failed to finish out the contract

It’s not going to offer the perspective of women who want to make their own choices rather than be told who they’re allowed to have sex with though, is it?

So go and read Punternet for yourself.

Yes, but I don’t know who they are fighting, or harming. I think themselves.

It’s going to offer a perspective that puts the woman front and centre.

A website advocating the Nordic model is not really going to offer an unbiased perspective.

This is what ‘punters’ really think of ‘sex workers’.

If, after reading, you still think this is just a job, like Tescos ffs, or empowering, or should exist anywhere, never mind next to a school, then you’re not only misogynistic, you’re stupid.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/myths-about-prostitution/myth-punters-care-about-the-women-they-buy/

The following is from the linked article, and the punters comments can be read by anyone on Punternet.com which is a British website where ‘punters’ (sex buyers) post reviews of ‘escorts’ (sex sellers)

“The comments below were posted by punters. They expose as a lie the claims that punters respect the women they buy. If an escort fails to meet punters’ ideal (young, thin, obedient and eager) she is insulted and called a ‘whore’ or a ‘bitch’ and referred to as ‘it’ or ‘the thing’. Punters claim never to exploit those who appear to be unwilling, forced or drugged, and yet the quotes prove that this is untrue, and reveal that punters do not care a jot for the escort’s comfort, welfare or health.”

”‘I am an early 20s male and fancied trying an older lady…she was in her mid 50s but I was determined to have some older pussy… When I fuck, I fuck HARD! and within a minute she was asking me to take it easy on her old back. Began to pump away again as she told me I really knew how to fuck a girl (or in her case an old dog). Didn’t want to embarrass the old whore by coming on her tits or face.’

‘She looked nearer 60 than 50, but I made the most of her and called her a cock sucking bitch. I said get on your back and take some real cock you whore. I asked if I could call her names first as it would be the only way I could maintain a hard on with such a woman.’”

”The site owners and users declare that they support, review, patronise and approve only those escorts who are working in prostitution of their own free will. However, when an escort’s demeanour shows aversion, even repugnance, punters’ only concern is that they are not getting what they paid for.”

“‘Completely uncommunicative… shoved loads of lube up her fanny… it became clear that this could only be a wank into the body of the girl.’”

”‘Morgan just did not want to be there. Maybe it’s the credit crunch forced her into selling herself to pay the mortgage.’”

“‘Every attempt at intimacy was blocked with a turned away face.’
‘Sat on the bed about as far away from me as possible, making no move whatsoever to engage… Perfunctory fuck followed. Came. Went.’”

In my extensive experience many prostitutes are raped but only report it to authorities when they have been physically beaten so badly they can’t continue to work or have been robbed.

This notion that the punter agrees a contract and abides by it is so far from reality it’s frightening.
The academic studies only feature case studies of those who want to engage. Unless there is something in it for them, why the hell would they want to.

Those supporting prostitution have such a blinkered view