To worry about America?

Bigly admires Putin and wants to prove his country, USA, is as tremendously big and powerful, more big and tremendous, than Putin's country. Like toddlers comparing their favourite toys. We're in the position of waiting to see whose wheels fall off first. I think it would take a woman with the determination of Rees-Moggs nanny to sort them out. What an unhouse-trained rabble in the White House. I expect they pee on the floor.

The sad part is they didn't really vote for this. Almost half of them stayed home (my adult children who live there) and he won by the tiniest of margins.

They thought it wouldn't matter if they voted or not. All politicians are the same they said. They clearly aren't.

As a dual citizen, I'm very glad I'm not living there now. But I'm very sad for the country. I'm.terrified for my children.

You worry about America?

I think people in this country should worry about the tanking economy, the sky high energy bills and no domestic production of energy, the flight of capital and rich people leaving with their money in droves, and the fast descent into becoming a 3rd world hellhole.

America, on the other hand, is doing quite well.

The sanctimony, laughably inflated sense of superiority and delusional belief that this increasingly irrelevant country is somehow better than America is palpably noticeable on here. Wonder what bubble these people live in.

Emily Maitlis!😱What a lovely couple!

We're witnessing the beginning of the end of the American influence throughout the world, and the slow destruction of the county from within.

Interesting times, not in a good way

Try not to worry about things you have no control over

Marjorie Taylor Greene is also the woman who told Emily Maitlis to “fuck off”, and said that David Cameron (when he was foreign secretary) can “kiss my ass”.

She has also had to retract previous comments about school shootings being staged, and no plane hitting the pentagon on 9/11.

Oh and she said that the California wildfires were started by Rothschild funded “space lasers”.

And this woman is elected!!

(Her boyfriend is the journalist who asked Zelensky about what he was wearing in the Oval Office)

Imagine if we had a government that wanted to put itself above the law, broke international law, tried to opt out of the echr, attacked the judiciary, the freedom of Universities, banned journalists & media outlets from having access, went after public broadcasting, limited protest, collapsed the economy and gave tax breaks to the rich.

They wouldn't last 15 years.

And yes we need to align more with Europe and build up defences. Farage looks like a silly little boy now.

I’d like to think we have tighter laws and the British people will protest more. I also think having the end result playing out in front of us will be helpful.

We are right to worry about the every day American indeed.
But we also need to worry about ourselves. We have just been sandwiched between Trump's US-Russia-Unstable, volatile ME- not calmed Africa.
The only ones who are not, yet at least, a problem is East Asia and Oceania. Hopefully China will not turn funny too.
Trump's lot is obssesed with opposing Europe, trying to humulliate Europe, presenting Europe as a weak party, and alligning with Putin.
We have no option but to re- build our reality and ally with others closer. Actually, the US has been a drag in international institutions like the UN for a while now. Just being the vote to stop anything from happening and against our principles.

It is a terrible shame, and difficult to see how things will end up given the pace of change already. They simply won't be trusted, even if/when this lot are out of power.

What really concerns me, though, is the possibility of it happening in this country. It's very obvious that online propaganda, probably funded by Russia, has completely addled people's brains. We're going to have the same here in four years, with Farage and Reform.

My husband was listening to a podcast and apparently a lot of the USA relied on people just doing the right thing as opposed to firm laws. When/ if he ever goes they are apparently going to have to completely rebuild due to so much damage being done with this administration just doing what they like.I’m wondering how as the Supreme Court is full of those Trump put in who are there for life.

I too loved America however something has shifted in my view towards it. It’s a stunning beautiful country but the people aren’t who I thought they were. I thought they were better than this. Same podcast said this is what America was like pre second world war as regards isolation and their involvement (which took a lot of persuasion) changed things a lot.

I’ve seen a lot of what I want to see and there is a lot more of the world to see. Loads .I refuse to spend a shed load of money to end up being dicked around at airports or treated like criminals.I also don’t wish to be in a country that is so scornful about the rest of the world. A holiday isn’t worth that.

The social media section does say optional...however I only have one social media account and I did put it down. I wonder if you have a prominent social media presence and opt out of including it, what then? My application was approved 5 minutes after submitting, so there is chance more scrutiny is done at the point of entry so not worth taking chances.

I know this is just a joke but, in all seriousness, you have to list your social media accounts on your ESTA form in advance. Your devices can also be seized and examined at the border. You can’t be forced to provide your passwords but if you refuse they can deny you entry. Just recently tourists have been put into indefinite ICE detention rather than just being turned back at the border like you might usually expect.

I think it will take years for the damage Trump and his flunkies are doing, to be undone.

Co-operations such as the five eyes, that have protected the safety of hundreds of millions of people for decades, are over. America is completely untrustworthy, totally lacking in professionalism or even basic competence, their administration is truly 'amateur hour'.

It will take decades for trust to be restored.

Well, it's happened in UK with Brexit... nobody believed there'll be enough "leave" voters, and so it happened.
Who knew who Farage was before that? Nobody! Just a yapping dog on a busy alley.
Now imagine him being voted for PM... yup! US take 2! But worse!.
Trump, Vance and Musk think they're the bees knees and The heroes of US. The saviours. Their feeling of grandeur is beyond imagination.
The fact that they think they cand and are entitled to taking over other countries such as Canada and Greenland is out of this world...

Martha, the journalist who shone through that awful interview has a podcast called Trump 100. This is the episode 'When Martha met Marjorie'
open.spotify.com/episode/3sH6WBovPIAorbgFrQ63hX?si=kXfZPX1CQ5ytQrdeG0su9A

Part of me is finding it hilarious, except its real and they are playing with people's lives. It will take a very long time for America to be respected again after this

If they are waterboarding, you clearly arent safe

This is of a certain different order of magnitude. Congress is irrelevant and will rubber stamp anything. A ketaminefuelled de facto leader; taking Greenland and the Panama canal and making Canada the 51st state. Welsh backpackers being arrested and detained in chains. How is any of that normal ??!!

Also if you tried to go there they may not let you in if you have criticised the Trump administration on social media (not sure how they'd know!)

i think im safe, they’d have to waterboard me for my login details and i still wouldn’t remember them!!

"we don’t give a crap about your opinion” sums up America's foreign policy and has done for years. You're just seeing them as others have seen them for decades.

Also if you tried to go there they may not let you in if you have criticised the Trump administration on social media (not sure how they'd know!) ! I have heard of American citizens even being detained when they tried to enter the US after being away if they have taken issue with Trump publically. That is very scary.

Hear, hear.