To worry about America?

YANBU. I am a US citizen living in the US. When friends from abroad ask tentatively about visiting the US, I advise them not to. If I weren't tied to the country for a variety of reasons, I would leave for the next few years (or possibly permanently, depending on how things pan out). I have never seen anything like the authoritarian insanity coming from the lunatic currently in the White House and his henchmen. We are teetering on the brink of fascism and it is terrifying.

I know.

Somewhere between absolute legend (Anne) and comedy gold (Trump).

You think that MTG was correct in how she treated a professional journalist who was doing her job to report on issues in America which directly impact the UK?

I don’t have the energy to worry about the US, I think we have more than enough things to worry about in the UK to be honest.

Haven’t RTFT but I’m more worried about the dismal state the UK is in than I am about the US.

I find it really embarrassing that we have this shower supposedly representing us. I cringe to say it but I used to think the UK was important but our own government don’t gaf and that’s really clear.I’m so glad that MTG told the British journalist to go and report on matters happening here, that she told the BBC where to go is even better. Well said!

It’s like an alternate universe where I’ve woken up in hell to hear the dalek tones of Starmer and Reeves spouting rubbish about how they’re helping us - who are they helping exactly? then that utter buffoon Miliband has reappeared and is in charge of our energy strategy?! holy fuck we are so so doomed and Lammy at the foreign office, I mean what the hell??? It’s like a really bad dream. We are seriously fucked in this country, maybe ignorance is bliss for those of you not aware. Young people are not able to get jobs, there’s no growth and small businesses will struggle and they’re where growth comes from.

America is the last country I’d worry about right now, they’re gonna be just fine.

And now, on top of calling himself the "Fertilization President", cutting funds to family planning and women's reproductive health, he has yanked funding for research into DV against pregnant women.

Trump is creating Gilead and he's only been in for 2 months.😱

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-admin-pulls-research-funding-protection-pregnant-women-domestic-violence_n_67e5bbf0e4b0e9fab0ffb1cc

Her crime was 12 month ago to be involve - and I think wrote an article that was pro palestine.

Not heard more since.

I think it's sinister and I can understand why DH decline conferences in USA even though as white male UK national he unlikely to hit problems - but why risk it.

I am seeing surpise via USA via news about the impact already had with mostly Canadian actions.

I don't think there is a big well thought out plan behind it all - I think USA economy will suffer and rest of world will as well but rest of world will fordge new alliances and find new market places. I also think it's a bigger problem than just Trump - it's people round him and The Reublican party and the people who voted for him and possibly their entire poltical system.

Oh my god, I would love to see/hear that.

think of the second state visit as buying time for the uk to sort out its defense situation.

it is good if Putin thinks America might still aid the uk.

I really do wish that that ridiculous second state visit for Trump had never been offered.

With any luck, Princess Anne will step in and deal with him appropriately.

Fuck America. They chose to be Mr Billy Big Balls and not care about anyone or anything.
We, in the UK, need to strengthen our ties with Europe and Canada.
I would much rather be close to my European neighbours than the batshit Americans and their nut job president.

I find it all very worrying. I have zero respect for Trump, his administration or any of the American electorate who helped vote him back in.

I do have sympathy for those who didn't vote for him and didn't want him back in. They must be utterly horrified and despairing.

For the record, I also have no time for those who have actually voted for Farage and his cohort in any way, shape or form. Whether that was by voting for Brexshit or for the Reform Party since then. I am absolutely dismayed and disgusted (though sadly not really surprised) to see them now in Parliament.

Trump is in Putin's pocket, Farage is/certainly has been in Trump's pocket. If you want to see how the UK might go if people continue to vote for these arsewipes then you probably need to look no further than the USA at the moment - buddying up to Putin, starting to dismantle Western alliances, wanting to annex Greenland and even Canada (as the 51st state!) and slowly but surely turning itself into a huge dictatorship.

I really do wish that that ridiculous second state visit for Trump had never been offered. I think that there is definitely a case to be argued for rescinding the invitation given Trump and Vance's current behaviour.

This doesn’t sound like serious analysis tbf.

I got more from the recent movie covering the motivations of the lawyer he worked with and learnt from.

Some of what they are doing, there is a clear mandate for. Some of it I would even kind of agree with if it was being done differently (e.g. DOGE - sure, review government spending, it probably needs it, but don't just wade in and fire people when you don't even know what they do (safeguarding nuclear weapons for example)).

what scares me is the attacks on checks and balances, due process, the courts and freedom of speech. Also the chumming up to Russia is extremely worrying.

Why would you miss any random mner, I’m sure the pp feels the same in return.

Why would you want a felon as PM? Someone who is talking about ethics cleansing in Gaza, taking Greenland against their will and turning Canada into the 51st state.
He has zero understanding of world affairs and hasn’t yet understood how tariffs work. Americans are concerned about the falling value of their 401k and the likelihood of a recession.

You mean the Joe Biden days, right?

I doubt I'd miss you or anyone else for that matter.
It's my opinion, sorry if it doesn't match yours.

If you follow this news story you will find it was actually because he had items he took othout permission from a US University on him.

You know that's verifiable bullshit right? That researcher had confidential information from Los Alamos National Laboratory on his computer, in violation of a nondisclosure agreement. He admitted to taking it without permission and that he was attempting to conceal it. That's got fuck all to do with him being critical of Trump and everything to do with him being in violation of his travel terms. But don't let the truth get in the way of scaremongering!

Why not stay there @Whammyyammy? Unlikely you'll be missed here, I'm sure we'd get by without you.

I love visiting the US with both work hand holidays, circa 7 or 8 times per year.
I'm off to texas next week and looking forward to it.
As for DT and MAGA, they're doing what they said before elected.
Wish DT could be our PM

Anyone trying to understand what makes Trump tick and what is actually going on in his tiny mind should listen to the interview with Michael Wolff on The Rest is Politics Leading, who spent years inside the White House with Trump and his inner circle close up before writing a book about him.

In a nutshell, he says there is no plan in Trump’s head. He is purely and only motivated by headlines, and being the reality star. When asked why he wanted to be POTUS he replied “to be the most famous man in the world”. Wolff says Trump is not a serious person. The problem is everyone treats him like he is because he’s the POTUS, but there is nothing else there, no plan, no strategy other than say this, say that, say anything to get the headline, and a pursuit of wealth. The reason he’s obsessed with Putin is because Putin’s widely believed to be (secretly) the wealthiest man in the world, and Trump worships wealth.

Wolff also says that Melania could be Trump’s only weakness / Achilles heel as she is entirely transactional, has him giving her exactly what she wants and has the power to upend the whole thing.

Personally I would still take the democrats in a heartbeat over this terrifying autocratic shitshow but we are where we are. I really hope they can sort themselves out and become electable, and it is not too little too late.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained