To worry about America?

I really do wish that that ridiculous second state visit for Trump had never been offered.

With any luck, Princess Anne will step in and deal with him appropriately.

AlisonDonut · Today 16:45

What makes you think these 'wrong tattoos' are the truth in the first place?

If nothing else, does it not give you pause for thought that people are being deported without any semblance of due process? No lawyers, for example? Non El Salvadoreans being sent to a brutal prison in El Salvador?

I am really hoping for an end to this headless globalisation.
Please let's make our cars, spoons, clothes, screws, tools, machinery... in this country. Each country should aim to be as independant as possible. But here we are, getting our mops from all the way across the world. If tomorrow there is a delay in the delivery, the floor will not be mopped, because we can no longer make our own. It is flipping ridiculous.

He hired those fact checkers so he apparently deemed them qualified.

So in your opinion which news sources are not fake news?

I am really hoping for an end to this headless globalisation.
Please let's make our cars, spoons, clothes, screws, tools, machinery... in this country. Each country should aim to be as independant as possible. But here we are, getting our mops from all the way across the world. If tomorrow there is a delay in the delivery, the floor will not be mopped, because we can no longer make our own. It is flipping ridiculous.

I am really hoping for an end to this headless globalisation.
Please let's make our cars, spoons, clothes, screws, tools, machinery... in this country. Each country should aim to be as independant as possible. But here we are, getting our mops from all the way across the world. If tomorrow there is a delay in the delivery, the floor will not be mopped, because we can no longer make our own. It is flipping ridiculous.

He isn't against fact checking, the fact checkers are the worst offenders when it comes to fake news. So he abandoned the idea.

Look at the BBC fact checking dept whose staff lied on their bloody CV. You can't make this shit up.

The same people complaining that the US / Trump are imposing tariffs on the UK motor industry are the same ones gleefully posting about the unlawful damage being done to an American car manufacturer.

Also no one cares about being called “right wing” and “right wing extremism” is a redundant term as everything is “right wing” or “fascist” that the intolerant left don’t agree with. Or a Russian bot FGS.

Shoutout to all who voted Labour in, now facing the miserable consequences.

@kattaduck posting links from biased unreliable sources isn’t going to convince me, nor is google. You’re proving my point. Don’t waste your time. I’m not going to read them.

You’re repeating Kremlin talking points…a Russian Bot, perhaps?

The same Mark Zuckerberg who is against fact checking?

I am really hoping for an end to this headless globalisation.
Please let's make our cars, spoons, clothes, screws, tools, machinery... in this country. Each country should aim to be as independant as possible. But here we are, getting our mops from all the way across the world. If tomorrow there is a delay in the delivery, the floor will not be mopped, because we can no longer make our own. It is flipping ridiculous.

I am really hoping for an end to this headless globalisation.
Please let's make our cars, spoons, clothes, screws, tools, machinery... in this country. Each country should aim to be as independant as possible. But here we are, getting our mops from all the way across the world. If tomorrow there is a delay in the delivery, the floor will not be mopped, because we can no longer make our own. It is flipping ridiculous.

This is what my family in the US are saying too. But only during WA calls. They've stopped putting their views in the family WA group because they fear repercussions.

Every day their fears grow. It's bad enough watching it from across the pond, it's so much worse seeing it happen to your own country.❤️

Nobody in the USA at a high level is innocent of trickery and subterfuge. They're all fucking at it.

I agree with this. I think Bernie Sanders saying USA style democracy has let a signication section of the population down has a point.

I'm also not wild about Labour government or previous Tory ones and I'm aware of many problems in the UK.

On top of all those existing problems though we have one of the world's biggest economies causing global chaos and a previous close ally who can't be trusted. It's not just us was flipping past channels and saw a south Korean new station and they were facing problems due to tariffs.

I can't remember who they were quoting but saw an analyist talking about shfiting international power - and crumbling american influence - and they said when an empire falls they don't leave power vacuum they leave pregnant widows - meaing there is shock at changes wanting old reality back and long work raising next power up.

I think the world adjusting to changing international poltics - I don't think the USA will be fine without a change in direction - I think many there suffer from normalcy bias - but that's up to them.

Me too. The destruction of this country is moving at quite a speed now, pretty soon we will have no industry and millions dependent on government handouts. Desperately worrying and sad.

No one can pretend that what is happening in the US is just business as usual. It most assuredly is not. The First Amendment protects speech. That includes speech that government officials disagree with. (Obviously.) What has happened to some international students is nothing short of terrifying. Not to mention everything else that has occurred in the past 2 months: the elevation to cabinet positions of people who are blatantly unqualified, the wanton firing of federal employees, the calls to impeach judges and even to dismantle the federal courts entirely, the threats to programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, the Signal chat debacle, the attempts to rewrite US history by removing any mention of women or non-white men, the intimidation of universities, cultural institutions, museums, etc. Sadly, I could go on.

I teach in a university in the US. I used to tell my students that they need only look at Russia in the first decade of this century to see how easily a democratic system can be dismantled. But Russia is a country that had no history of democracy prior to 1991. It was relatively easy for Putin to turn back the clocks and reassert an authoritarian style of government. Now my students are witnessing the attacks on democracy in our own country in real time. This is what fascism looks like.

America isn’t doing well - unemployment up, economy heading to a recession, stock market crashing and huge concerns over the falling values of 401k’s.

I’m more worried about the UK.

The general decline is staggering.

No one cares about manners, it’s dirty, overcrowded, noisy and expensive.

Crime everywhere and no one cares.

I know this is just a joke but, in all seriousness, you have to list your social media accounts on your ESTA form in advance. Your devices can also be seized and examined at the border. You can’t be forced to provide your passwords but if you refuse they can deny you entry. Just recently tourists have been put into indefinite ICE detention rather than just being turned back at the border like you might usually expect.