Massive overreaction to a TV show

Poverty, housing problems and street crime have a much bigger impact than the internet.

But it's all related.
Much of Andrew Tate's content is related to making money. Although, he never really says how, perhaps it's to do with the PhD hid 'university' offers. That stands for a Pimping Hoes Degree.

The incel narrative blames women for mens problems. So while poverty does have a huge impact, it doesn't take long to find content on the internet which blames women for this (and anything tbh)

I feel somewhat similar about Rainbow. A lot of people thought it was really good whilst I... well I just thought it was unconvincing.

Bungle was malforned as a bear, his face was all wrong. Too small for his head.

Zippy constantly had his fingers in his mouth, which I found rather unpleasant.

And George...a pink, gender-fluid hippo - what was that all about?

I thought there was too much emphasis on the " cleverness" of the one take filming, which made it seem less real to me. Partly because my DP was constantly commenting in it, rather than the plot. Traditional style filming would allowed a more substantial plot/characters.
Surely it's relevant to to all households who have children though? I think you've missed the point OP.

No, but you can try being an adult 😊.

I am an adult, an educated one too.
But I don't feel the need to call people stupid for enjoying a tv programme or finding it thought provoking. It's unnecessary.

In episode 1 they showed you him being vulnerable so you didn't believe he could have done anything wrong. Up until the CCTV footage I thought he had been arrested by mistake. Up until the CCTV footage he was my young teenage son and I was shocked into devastation when it showed that he done it.

Other than that, the young lads acting was absolutely brilliant, so believable and powerful, especially in episode 3.

But street crime in my context (secondary teacher in inner city where we’ve had many a gang-related issue/crime) is actually deeply rooted in drill music accessed online.

No, but you can try being an adult 😊.

This is also my experience.

Poverty, housing problems and street crime have a much bigger impact than the internet.

Anyone with children should be able to relate to it. You have kids of an impressionable age! You don’t always know what they’re up to, what they’re doing on their phones, who their friends are. You’re naïve if you feel this could never affect you. It’s good you weren’t upset by it as I have a 6yo boy and was crying and I never cry!

Same as a teacher.

Tate’s rhetoric is v much part of what we now have to deal with quite frequently in secondary, depressingly.

Totally agree, I found it overhyped, badly acted and forgettable. But the British public is only able to relate to issues if presented in drama form (see also the post office scandal), a bit like babies needing their food pureed.

I guess we can't all be as clever (or as smug) as you 🤷🏼‍♀️

I hope you’re a nursery or primary school teacher. Otherwise I’d be worried that you’re not clued up tbh

I’m not sure who it’s aimed at. I have two sons, I’m already taking every precaution. Of course you worry about these things. They don’t have internet connected devices in their rooms. They don’t have smart phones. We talk about respect and consent etc.

But this feels like selling anxiety. So many parents are now awake at night worrying their children are going to do something terrible. I don’t think it’s good for people.

I’ve got two baby daughters so it’s relevant to me even now, despite me being able to protect them. But I already battle to delay them accessing screens, knowing where they could lead them to one day. Sadly, when I found out I was having them, after the initial excitement both my mind and my husband’s went to our fear of raising girls in today’s world. If I didn’t have them and had sons, it’d also be relevant to me. If I was child free, I have nieces and nephews and even without taking those into consideration, I am still surrounded by men who make up half the population. And screens are ubiquitous. Women my age aren’t protected from misogyny and toxic masculinity, as the news will demonstrate as it’s rarely a day goes by where there isn’t another story of a woman (of any age) being killed at the hands of a man. This has always happened and screens seem to be becoming a relevant if not central detail in cases more and more.

How on Earth isn’t it relevant to you unless you have cut yourself off from the world?

I’m just astonished that anyone finds ot remotely relevant

Can you explain this a bit more? Why don't you think it's relevant?

As a mother of a son I've made it my business to research what is happening online and to attempt to understand the manosphere and the messages being promoted. However, I know people who have ignored it and even accused me of exaggerating.
This programme has opened up these discussions again and people I know are taking it more seriously.
That can only be a good thing.

Totally agree, I found it overhyped, badly acted and forgettable. But the British public is only able to relate to issues if presented in drama form (see also the post office scandal), a bit like babies needing their food pureed.

They deliberately didn’t delve in to Katie’s character to make the point it is always the perpetrator that gets the attention not the victim.
Im sure it was the woman detective that made this point in the show also.

I guess we will. Again though. we are talking about 13 year olds not 18 year olds. You come across as sensible in your writing so I’m surprised to hear you would let a 13yo have unrestricted access to the internet and stay out all night.

Parent them properly when they are young and they’ll be more likely to conduct themselves well at 18 when they do have the freedom.

There is a tv section...

So much hand wringing.
I work with disadvantaged boys and it’s only a tiny minority that are anything like as misogynist as the boys from 40 years ago when I grew up.
Luckily only a few have been knife carrying but even these boys seemed to be able to talk about feelings and problems in a way kids rarely did back in the day.

I didn’t much like Adolescence despite it being cleverly shot.

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I’m not sure I understand what you mean? Why wasn’t it relevant?

are your children much older or much younger perhaps?

Don’t have access to the internet?
don’t have smart phones?
don’t go out without you?
don’t have friends who have internet access?

A lot of programmes might not be directly relevant to my life at any one point. But it doesn’t mean I can’t watch and enjoy those programmes for what they are, especially if it’s one which is thought provoking or makes you consider the way things are in life at the moment.

This is a bit of an odd post. I don’t have teens at the moment but I thought it was relevant to me because it’s happening in the world I’m currently living in.

I suppose concepts about things like climate change wouldn’t be “relevant” to me if I only considered whether I see or notice evidence of them in my day to day life, but the fact that it’s happening whether I notice or not makes me feel it is still relevant.

Well, borrow some dragons from somewhere and have an incestuous affair with your twin? I mean, try harder, right?😀

it was ok. I didn’t find the show very good as people have said it just hinted at the online stuff, i would have missed the theme if I hadn’t seen all the hype. And maybe missing the theme is intentional but its not a very good ploy if it goes over peoples heads.