Massive overreaction to a TV show

Yanbu. It was good, but not great imo. The first episode was by far the best. The rest were a bit boring and I didn't really understand some of it.

IMHO if you don't think it's relevant the storyline went over your head.
My Y8 DD was sexually harassed today by a Y8 boy and has had 3 months + low level harassment/bullying by a group of Y8 boys. Head of Year tells me their parents are all deeply shocked. It's a "good school" in a "nice" area. Head of Year suspects Andrew Tate style internet influence - boys lack any positive response to school interventions, which are continuously escalating and will likely end in suspension/perm exclusion. The boys believe the girls are the issue when they report the boys' poor behaviour. Lacking in insight and accountability for their actions. This TV programme subject matter may not be impacting OP, but it sure as hell is impacting too mmany other people every day.

Are you a deeply unimaginative person?

What’s with all the threads about this show? Starting to think it’s deliberate.

I am almost afraid to watch it but I think I should. I have a 7 yo DS and the thought of him ever having unrestricted internet access scares the daylights out of me. Even if I am strict with it, all it’ll take is for one of his class mates whose parents don’t give a shit to show him something I don’t want him to see when they get to that age

If your children have smartphones or they have friends with smartphones who they spend time with unsupervised by you, then it is relevant to your life. You are free to ignore it. But bear in mind that one of the underlying messages is that there is a generation
of parents (us) sleep walking through this new age of “kids with phones” where technology amd the dark side of the web is moving faster than we can keep up with.

Same here.

My children are all adults now but I do think it's an issue that we all should be thinking about as a society. How children are being influenced by social media and the incel culture is relevant to everyone. Your children might be fine but there will be children in their school that are influenced by this insidious misogyny. If you don't think it's a big problem, you should read Men Who Hate Women by Laura Bates. It's an eye-opener 😕

Couldn’t agree more.
We’re going to watch it again, with DD this time.

Not sure why you deem it as being a “massive overreaction” to the programme on the basis you don’t think it has anything to do with your life or your children? I don’t think if a programme lacks relevance to one persons life that it therefore means others are overreacting if they respond differently.
Also, I do think you are naive if you think it all has nothing to do with you and your kids. They will no doubt be exposed to some things you’d prefer not and the kids they interact with will too. Don’t dismiss it all as being “other people” or those people you do not think parent as brilliantly as you do. That just contributes to the problem.
I think you posted to be deliberately provocative as otherwise there wasn’t really any point in saying don’t understand what the fuss is about as it has nothing to do with me as surely it is beyond obvious that we all have different life experiences and are all potentially vulnerable to harmful things.

It isn't hype. It's fiction which has touched on very real and frightening concerns the effects of which could affect any young person. Obviously people want to discuss it especially if the manosphere and Tate is new to them.

It was very relevant to me (teen sons) but also barely touched on the real issues as we spent a lot of time going up and down stairs and across playgrounds with the actors and everything had to be synchronised so you could ‘seamlessly’ transfer to another scene. I watched it with aforementioned sons and we thought it was a bit crap tbh. We’ve had more interesting and enlightening conversations after reading news articles, I was hoping this would be topical and raise opportunities for discussion, but one son said ‘why does everyone keep saying it’s about toxic masculinity but you wouldn’t know unless you read a review of it?’ (I know he’s missed some subtleties, but it didn’t dig deep enough in my opinion. I liked Steve Biddulph’s write up of it explaining it was essentially missing some of the other underlying factors of toxic masculinity and violent situations.

Well, good for you.

Unfortunately, it is relevant to lots of people so it's a good thing it's being discussed.

How old are your children?
I suspect if it doesn’t resonate yet, it soon will.

Then I think you’ve missed the point? It resonates with me because my DD will definitely come across ‘Jamie’ type boys soon in her life and the fact that it’s now ‘out there’ about this type of behaviour/upbringing means hopefully more people are aware.

Isn't a major theme in the show the absolute disbelief of the parents that it could be their child?

If your child has access to the Internet in any way, it is relevant to you.

Don’t let your children use the internet in their room. Mine don’t age 14 and 15 year old boys. I would rather they watch their YouTube crap in the sitting room than me not knowing what’s going on in their lives.

They barely sit in their room at all. We have a very open home. I find it strange that some young teenagers have whole YouTube style computer set ups in their bedroom and their parents think nothing is going on because they are being quiet.

This is very dangerous - it is called tempting fate - you are saying 'ah, not relevant to me', which is translated 'not gonna happen to me'.

Ive not seen it as i have no interest but others might.

Have another think about what you've just written....

Why would anyone else give a shit about how it relates to your life? Your life isn’t a benchmark of importance to anyone except you.

It isn’t directly relevant to my own life either but I still think it’s an incredible piece that asks important questions about society. I personally don’t need drama to hold a mirror up to my own experiences - I’d find that quite a waste of my viewing time, actually. I’d rather get an insight to things I’m not directly familiar with.

That’s stupid! The sopranos isn’t relative to my life but I still love it

not everything is about you believe it or not

You think the dangers of social media isn't relevant to your life and you have children?

ok....

Personally I think it's one of the most important tv shows made in ages. A real conversation starter and a warning to shake us our of our complacency.

I have DDs, their safety or lack of it due to fragile manbabies terrifies me. I think it's pretty relevant to a lot of teenagers now imo.

I read that was deliberate to echo the way victims are often invisible compared to perpetrators in real life. And that it was 'Katie's' voice singing the soundtrack.