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how to please DIL

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miserablemo · 26/03/2025 10:18

i am at a loss as to how to please my future DIL. she is unhappy that we went away on holiday in March because it meant they didn't have childcare for 14 month old, as her parents were also away, and she/they (because SS also joined in with this) would have to take time off work, and, this is the best bit.. 'we can't do (insert social activity here) as you are away'

when baby was born, we set up a little bank account, and explained too SS and his partner that we would put a little amount in each month, and on occasions like, birthdays, holidays like easter etc, rather than spend a fortune on gifts, we would put a larger amount into the account and we would give a 'token gift'. we asked what was wanted for birthday and was told to buy such and such, which totalled about £50, and then we deposited another £50 into the bank account which i thinks is perfectly acceptable. DIL is now moaning that we didn't get the baby much???

apparently its our fault they are not available in April for a visit as DIL is away every, yes, every weekend in april and again bemoaning that they do not have childcare and that SS is now having to take leave from his job?

i genuinely want to know, what can i do, or what is to be done to please your DIL? and SS, i won't say he is totally blameless.. all i want is a happy, calm relationship, and to have a relationship with these people and their child and it just seems to be so much hard work.

(the holiday in march was booked last year, well before the baby was born) and we assumed at this point the baby would be going to nursery, but apparently, even though he has now free hours? she doesn't want him in nursery?

OP posts:
miserablemo · 26/03/2025 15:46

AnotherForumUser · 26/03/2025 14:28

It's only a few hours since she posted 😂. Maybe, just maybe, the OP is getting on with real life. Give her some more time FGS. Not everyone is glued to message boards. Some people actually do have a life.

thank you, yes, i have been out and about, just getting on with life and intended to reply later this evening when i was having some down time. i didn't realise there was a time limit on when replies had to be forthcoming.

OP posts:
miserablemo · 26/03/2025 15:45

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 14:44

I think people are getting a bit confused about this. OP WANTS to just give a token gift, and put money in an account:

and explained too SS and his partner that we would put a little amount in each month, and on occasions like, birthdays, holidays like easter etc, rather than spend a fortune on gifts, we would put a larger amount into the account and we would give a 'token gift'.

It is only on the child's birthday that she has asked what they want and they have asked for a £50 gift so that is what they have bought, for some reason OP also put the £50 into the account too.. NO ONE is suggesting the birthday present is a token gift.. it's not, but it also doesn't sound like it's the norm.

OP has presumably the rest of the time done token gifts and put money into an account?

we asked what was wanted, suggesting a budget with the full knowledge that the bank account would also be topped up, the gift they asked for was a little over the budget.

i just feel like i am being played off against her own parents, they tell us all the time what the parents have bought for them, paid for them, given them etc.

i really am trying to do my best.

OP posts:
miserablemo · 26/03/2025 15:42

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 12:44

she is unhappy that we went away on holiday in March

DIL is now moaning that we didn't get the baby much???

apparently its our fault they are not available in April for a visit as DIL is away every, yes, every weekend in april and again bemoaning that they do not have childcare and that SS is now having to take leave from his job?

How do you know DIL is unhappy with you, is she telling you or is SS the one telling you they are unhappy & what has one got to do with the other (not being able to visit weekends & not having childcare?)

(the holiday in march was booked last year, well before the baby was born) and we assumed at this point the baby would be going to nursery, but apparently, even though he has now free hours? she doesn't want him in nursery?

It was wrong of you to assume anything to be honest, it's not relevant, neither is it your place to question their decision to put child in nursery, absolutely nothing to do with you. But, what has your assumption got to do with the fact that they are annoyed about lack of childcare, did you not tell them about the holiday because you assumed they would have childcare covered.

It sounds like her parents do regular childcare, but they are away that week and they assumed you would be available because they didn't know about your holiday?.. so they've had to sort themselves out last minute instead?

It actually sounds to me like you don't do ANY regular childcare for them, but the times they have asked you to do it you've always got a reason why you can't do it? It can be frustrating if you've offered to do it but the don't ever step up when they need help.. had you offered to help with childcare?

they were aware of the holiday when we booked it, and we did used to do regular childcare, due to working, other GC and our own committments we used to have this GC once a month for a sleep over, however, this then turned into every weekend and we had to draw a line and put a stop too it because we simply could not carry on, with working 24/7 shifts, we ere exhausted and missing out on other things.

SS and DIL have both spoken too me about their childcare issues, i suspect to try and make me feel guilty.

We discussed the present giving situation as soon as baby was born, and they agreed that the baby a) wouldn't really know what was going on and the b) her parents were inundating them with surprise gifts all the time and they simply didnt have the space.

OP posts:
UsernameTalk · 26/03/2025 14:59

Your dil sounds cheeky, spoilt and unreasonable. You can't please people like this

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 14:44

Danascully2 · 26/03/2025 14:32

A £50 present plus £50 contribution to bank account is not a 'bare minimum' gift, it is a generous and appropriate way to mark a toddler's birthday. I think the OP's description of it as a 'token gift' was maybe a bit misleading. I would see a 'token gift' as a chocolate bar or sticker book or something.

I think people are getting a bit confused about this. OP WANTS to just give a token gift, and put money in an account:

and explained too SS and his partner that we would put a little amount in each month, and on occasions like, birthdays, holidays like easter etc, rather than spend a fortune on gifts, we would put a larger amount into the account and we would give a 'token gift'.

It is only on the child's birthday that she has asked what they want and they have asked for a £50 gift so that is what they have bought, for some reason OP also put the £50 into the account too.. NO ONE is suggesting the birthday present is a token gift.. it's not, but it also doesn't sound like it's the norm.

OP has presumably the rest of the time done token gifts and put money into an account?

Danascully2 · 26/03/2025 14:32

A £50 present plus £50 contribution to bank account is not a 'bare minimum' gift, it is a generous and appropriate way to mark a toddler's birthday. I think the OP's description of it as a 'token gift' was maybe a bit misleading. I would see a 'token gift' as a chocolate bar or sticker book or something.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 26/03/2025 14:32

She may well do but it looks like yet another thread where the OP doesn't come back.

Nanny0gg · 26/03/2025 14:31

Octavia64 · 26/03/2025 10:30

No comment on the childcare situation, but children don’t appreciate money they appreciate gifts.

my FIL wanted to stop doing family gifts altogether at Christmas when my kids were about 4. It made sense from an adult perspective but my 4 year olds would have been devastated not to get presents from family.

maybe reconsider on the token gifts?

I'm not sure that £50 in the bank and £50 on present/s is a 'token'

@miserablemo I don't think you can please them, sorry. But if they need you more than you need them, don't bend over for them

AnotherForumUser · 26/03/2025 14:28

DuchessOfNarcissex · 26/03/2025 14:20

OP hasn't come back. She clearly doesn't like he SDIL.
I suspect she is like my SMIL- if I told her she looked nice, she'd take offence.

It's only a few hours since she posted 😂. Maybe, just maybe, the OP is getting on with real life. Give her some more time FGS. Not everyone is glued to message boards. Some people actually do have a life.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 26/03/2025 14:20

OP hasn't come back. She clearly doesn't like he SDIL.
I suspect she is like my SMIL- if I told her she looked nice, she'd take offence.

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 14:02

Topseyt123 · 26/03/2025 13:06

There was some proposed/presumed childcare though. That's why the DIL was outraged about OP's long pre-booked holiday.

I assume there's been an offer of childcare, but when the DIL and SS have tried to call it in, none has been forthcoming from OP, which is causing the annoyance.. it doesn't sound like they knew about OPs holiday and asked for help with childcare only to be told that they weren't available, which they obviously didn't know about otherwise it wouldn't a surprise to them?

There annoyance isn't really justified if OP has got pre-booked plans, but lots of people pay lip service and offer help and then have no real intention of actually helping.. they want to see the grandchildren on their terms, and want the parents to do all the facilitating but don't actually want to put any effort in themselves, even though they have said they want to and offered to.. This would cause quite a bit of frustration, and I suspect is what is actually happening here.

OP seems to be a completely hands off grandparent, the gifts thing seems to indicate that too, they get a 'token' gift for special occasions and put money in a bank account instead? To me that's just quite lazy grandparenting, absolutely no thought goes into it whatsoever, just doing the bare minimum.. and it's the same with helping out too.

Along with OP moaning about her DIL being away at weekends(?), not visiting them (?), no real connection with the child, and things like being incredulous that DIL isn't putting her child in nursery (?) shows that OP doesn't really know them well, but is quite opinionated when it comes to her DIL and there is obviously a mismatch in expectation/communication with regards to involvement.

I suspect OP is telling an extremely one sided version of these events, but it's easier to come on here call her a CF and blame the DIL (it's always the DIL!) for the lack of relationship than it is to try and actually put effort into having a relationship with them.

nightmarepickle2025 · 26/03/2025 13:52

Octavia64 · 26/03/2025 10:30

No comment on the childcare situation, but children don’t appreciate money they appreciate gifts.

my FIL wanted to stop doing family gifts altogether at Christmas when my kids were about 4. It made sense from an adult perspective but my 4 year olds would have been devastated not to get presents from family.

maybe reconsider on the token gifts?

£50 is plenty to spend on a gift. Putting money in a bank account for the future is a much better use of another 50 than more tat.

Chungai · 26/03/2025 13:47

Octavia64 · 26/03/2025 10:30

No comment on the childcare situation, but children don’t appreciate money they appreciate gifts.

my FIL wanted to stop doing family gifts altogether at Christmas when my kids were about 4. It made sense from an adult perspective but my 4 year olds would have been devastated not to get presents from family.

maybe reconsider on the token gifts?

Agree with others I don't think £50 worth of presents is a token gift.

It's more than my DC get from their GPs and they don't get money on top!

She's very rude and grabby to moan about that to you.

On the childcare point it's unclear what you currently are doing childcare-wise.

Maybe they were assuming you would cover the weeks her parents are away and was just having a moan due to the unfortunate timing.

That's not your problem though.

No point trying to please her if she wants to complain about everything, just be kind when you see her and disengage from the drama.

Mycatisanevilgenius · 26/03/2025 13:43

Why you focusing on the dil not the son ?

Starlight7080 · 26/03/2025 13:29

She sounds very spoilt and entitled.

Is she away every weekend in April without her baby?
I would just continue with your own plans and not go out of your way to be childcare. Because otherwise they will expect you to be on hand all the time.

ItGhoul · 26/03/2025 13:29

Octavia64 · 26/03/2025 10:30

No comment on the childcare situation, but children don’t appreciate money they appreciate gifts.

my FIL wanted to stop doing family gifts altogether at Christmas when my kids were about 4. It made sense from an adult perspective but my 4 year olds would have been devastated not to get presents from family.

maybe reconsider on the token gifts?

The child is 14 months old and doesn’t even know what a birthday is; it’s not going to be ‘devastated’ by anything. And in any case the OP is buying the child gifts. She bought £50 of gifts and put £50 in a savings account.

A toddler doesn’t have a clue how much gifts cost, in any case, so even if she did only give them something small to open, they’re not going to care if it didn’t cost much. (You know a ‘token gift’ doesn’t mean a gift voucher, right?!)

ginasevern · 26/03/2025 13:28

The simple answer: don't try to please them because you never will. If they can't afford childcare or have no alternatives but parents then they either suck it up or shouldn't have had a child in the first place. They sound entitled, self absorbed and unkind. Tell them to get stuffed.

Richiewoo · 26/03/2025 13:28

Your son and dil are hugely entitled. Tell them straight how it is. Your not there for their benefit

Epidote · 26/03/2025 13:17

I would do nothing. If they want to be petty and miserable complaining about everything is their choice.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 26/03/2025 13:13

Is what world is the OP being unreasonable??

Sparsely · 26/03/2025 13:12

Maybe she doesn't need you to solve the situation here, she just needs you to hear her moans and sympathise.

pinkyredrose · 26/03/2025 13:09

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 12:58

I don't think OP is doing any childcare.. there's nothing in her post about them actually doing any?

I thought she was. Maybe i misread.

jolota · 26/03/2025 13:08

Seems an odd stance for them to take.
Even the people I know who's parents provide regular childcare have to manage the contingencies of holidays/illnesses themselves.
I think you need to talk to your son about their expectations.

PinkiOcelot · 26/03/2025 13:07

Octavia64 · 26/03/2025 10:30

No comment on the childcare situation, but children don’t appreciate money they appreciate gifts.

my FIL wanted to stop doing family gifts altogether at Christmas when my kids were about 4. It made sense from an adult perspective but my 4 year olds would have been devastated not to get presents from family.

maybe reconsider on the token gifts?

They won’t when they’re older and get the money.

The OP did say they bought a token gift then put more in the bank.

Topseyt123 · 26/03/2025 13:06

sandyhappypeople · 26/03/2025 12:58

I don't think OP is doing any childcare.. there's nothing in her post about them actually doing any?

There was some proposed/presumed childcare though. That's why the DIL was outraged about OP's long pre-booked holiday.

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