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NEIGHBOUR CROSSED THE BOUNDARY BEFORE EXCHANGE

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MummyToBeAgain1 · 26/03/2025 09:29

Hi

I need some advice please.

We're buying a semi detached property and due to exchange and complete in a week or 2.

Over the weekend we drove past the property to find a fence being built between our garden and the property on the right. I suspected they had come in to our garden at a glance so drove past again yesterday.

The fence had fully been up and clearly it crossed in to our garden (to be). I've attached a quick drawing which shows what I mean. The red line is the fence the neighbour has put up.

Just for some context this is a auction property as the owner has died and the children wanted a quick sale. This means that we have a deadline for completition which makes things more stressful.

What do we do now?

Tia

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NEIGHBOUR CROSSED THE BOUNDARY BEFORE EXCHANGE
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Fruitytutti223 · 26/03/2025 13:25

Pull out. Nothing worse than bad neighbours even if you get the land back.

Sunshineandoranges · 26/03/2025 13:23

I would definitely knock on next door..and or the people on the other side. I always used to do this when considering auction properties. I’d usually just have a general chat. With the fence people I’d start a general chat then query why have you put up a new fence as it seems to be over the boundary. I would also talk to solicitors.

pollymere · 26/03/2025 13:10

You paid 10K for a property which included this strip of land. If it's not included in the sale then you're not getting what you bid on. I'm not sure where liability would fall but if you bought an item at auction that was then damaged, it would be anticipated that the Auction House would be liable on their insurance...

godmum56 · 26/03/2025 13:05

Jellyslothbridge · 26/03/2025 13:02

Fingers crossed it goes well today. You could offer to sell the land to the neighbours if it doesn't effect your space greatly (help with costs!)

and reward a CF? no way!!

Jellyslothbridge · 26/03/2025 13:02

Fingers crossed it goes well today. You could offer to sell the land to the neighbours if it doesn't effect your space greatly (help with costs!)

CatsWhiskerz · 26/03/2025 12:55

Total CFs - talk about stealing fr on the dead!!
Yea kick up a fuss, via the solicitors! Get your ducks in line this afternoon and hopefully they'd have just wasted a load of money to put up an illegal fence!
Was the wall on 'your' boundary? Wondering if the wall
Belonged to the house you're buying in which case the vendors
Solicitor may have a bit of a
Fight getting them to replace the wall - I'd much rather a wall than a fence - I'd want that back if it was mine

Wickedgreengirl · 26/03/2025 12:45

It’s worth checking with the sellers to see if they were aware. When our neighbour died we took the opportunity to put a new more secure fence up whilst access was a bit easier as the house was empty and we had a key for access in case of emergency. We checked it was ok with the daughter and there was no change to the boundary line. Glad we did as the new neighbours have dogs and the old wire fence/bushes was not secure!

Lilith666 · 26/03/2025 12:44

Hope this turns out ok for you @MummyToBeAgain1. People can be such CF's.

mulchtheflowerbeds · 26/03/2025 12:39

I wouldn’t overreact. This may be isolated cheekyfuckery. It’s a solicitor issue and you love the house and location so hang in there for now.

Strictlymad · 26/03/2025 12:35

So good you found out now! Absolutely measure up, take pics and call sols. Wondering if cheeky neighbours will spy you and think oh heck busted!

Spodemultiuser · 26/03/2025 12:34

Of note OP
If this doesn’t get sorted in time and you have sufficient evidence of the boundary line change you can claim all costs including rebuilding and legal from the sellers solicitor after you’ve bought.

Fountofwisdom · 26/03/2025 12:34

MummyToBeAgain1 · 26/03/2025 10:20

@TheWolfHouse
Thank you so so much. That was really helpful.

Right, I've had a look and from 2002 up until last weekend it was exactly the same.

A clear cut straight line to the end - with a small wall and bushes for the boundary. This confirms further that we're right in thinking the neighbour has sneakily cut in to our garden whilst the property is vacant.

Get onto your solicitor TODAY with that evidence. Do not be fobbed off. The property as it is now is not the property you bid on, as its area has been (illegally) reduced. Surely you can pull out of the purchase on that basis?

The absolute cheek of the neighbours!

Spodemultiuser · 26/03/2025 12:31

MummyToBeAgain1 · 26/03/2025 10:02

I'm not sure how to @ everyone at once but thankyou everyone for your replies.

I feel like it's come as a shock as everything was going so smoothly until now.

I've booked a viewing for tomorrow afternoon just to clarify the position before I ring my solicitor.
Although, I'm stressing so much, I might actually end up ringing her today.

I'm aware that as of yet it's not legally my property therefore I can't knock on the neighbours door however the seller can. Thing is though I think I'm stressing because the sneaky behaviour shows what the neighbours are like which also means they may hold this against us and could become a nightmare to live with.

I'm certain they have crossed the boundary as there was a wall that went all the way to the end. They've broken that down and cut some of the bushes of to build they fence. On the title plan the garden boundary is straight from the start to the end.

We can't back of from buying the property because we'll lose the nearly £10k auction fee we've paid.

I’d question that re backing from sale.
The boundary line was visible when you offered on the property.
That has now been moved so this is really down to the current owners and their solicitors to sort out as you are technically buying less than what you originally offered on.
They must have insurance. So for example if you had an auction offer accepted on a property which subsequently burnt down you would not be obliged to buy and would not lose your down payment.

You need to talk to your solicitor. I’m hoping you’ve got one that specialises in auction property OP

cryinglaughing · 26/03/2025 12:27

The waters are muddied here by it being an auction property.
Am I right in saying completion has to be within 21 days, or thereabouts?
Realistically, will your solicitor be able to sort it within this time frame?

Soontobe60 · 26/03/2025 12:27

anyolddinosaur · 26/03/2025 12:23

I'd talk to the neighbours and tell them that if the sale went through I'd be taking the fence down and giving it back to them.

Make sure the cost of rebuilding the wall is knocked off the purchase price.

Depends on who the wall belonged to!
OP, maybe they just aren’t very good with a tape measure 😳

SepticCess · 26/03/2025 12:27

MummyToBeAgain1 · 26/03/2025 10:20

@TheWolfHouse
Thank you so so much. That was really helpful.

Right, I've had a look and from 2002 up until last weekend it was exactly the same.

A clear cut straight line to the end - with a small wall and bushes for the boundary. This confirms further that we're right in thinking the neighbour has sneakily cut in to our garden whilst the property is vacant.

Screenshot that image before you do anything else.

anyolddinosaur · 26/03/2025 12:23

I'd talk to the neighbours and tell them that if the sale went through I'd be taking the fence down and giving it back to them.

Make sure the cost of rebuilding the wall is knocked off the purchase price.

MyGingerNinja · 26/03/2025 12:22

"We can't back of from buying the property because we'll lose the nearly £10k auction fee we've paid."

Honestly 10k will be a drop in the ocean if you continue with this purchase and then have an ongoing boundary dispute over a known issue so probably won't be able to claim in any insurance to cover costs. This could affect future re sale and quality of life as these neighbours are potentially showing you what they are like. Definitely do not continue for the sake of 10k now.

JohnofWessex · 26/03/2025 12:19

I would also be concerned that there may be undeclared disputes with the neighbours and raise the point that the vendors may not be telling the truth on the auction paperwork

EdinburghTimezone · 26/03/2025 12:18

What a pain for you. If they'd taken a foot or so off the bottom of a long garden perhaps it wouldn't be worth arguing about, but the space at the side is important. Which is presumably why they nicked it. I agree: get on to your solicitor and be willing to take the fence down yourselves if the neighbours don't apologise and move it. Good luck.

FullOfLemons · 26/03/2025 12:18

Don’t be surprised if your solicitor is of no help whatsoever

Given how committed you seem, I think your options are to ask sellers to resolve in advance of exchange or demand a discount to compensate for you dealing with the dispute.

You should be able to get a free consultation with a boundary dispute surveyor who can explain how this can be resolved and the likely time and costs involved.

Thebloodynine · 26/03/2025 12:17

The seller will want this resolved just as quickly as you but this is their problem to sort before you complete. If it looks like it’s going to drag on, then i’d get commitment from them that they will cover all costs associated with the boundary dispute and replacement of the original wall even after the sale completes.

Although, there is something to be said for claiming ignorance, moving in and then pulling the fence down and replacing the walk and just saying to the neighbour, “Oh, what so you mean that was your fence? It’s in the middle of the garden i just bought so came with the sale, we took it down to fix the wall and maintain the correct boundary.” And let them try and take action… because they can’t, they’d have to admit they tried to steal land and erected a fence in your garden.

OudAndRose · 26/03/2025 12:13

I would now be trying to get out of the sale altogether and to recoup the £10K on the basis of this. It's clear the neighbours will be trying all sorts if they have done this in the run up to the sale. In a way you are lucky it has come to light before you take on ownership.

JohnofWessex · 26/03/2025 12:12

I suggest that it might be worth talking to the local police to see if they are aware of any disputes involving the neighbours

mumda · 26/03/2025 12:12

DO NOT EXCHANGE.

Probably run away screaming.

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