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To ask Dh’s boss to fund private school for our Dd school

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 20:06

Hear me out, feeling a bit desperate, so maybe not thinking straight about it

We live abroad, Dd has been ill for a while and whilst being bright, she’s had to miss a lot of school and I feel it’s too much of a struggle for her now in her local school, even though she is fluent in the local language.
There are various fee paying International schools nearby, which I feel she’d be so much happier at and they would provide much more support.
They don’t cost as much as in the uk, but it’s still out of our price range.
Dh works really hard for a good wage for where we live, but the wages are very low compared to many other countries.
Dh is an essential member of the team and they really need him as can’t find workers of his level in the area, they’ve told him this and are keen to keep him.
The main shareholder in the company he works for is an extremely wealthy, multimillionaire and a thoroughly nice guy. One of his Dd’s has had similar issues to our Dd and he’s offered to get us appointments (him paying) with various specialists in America, luckily Dd is improving and should be ok 🙏
I was reading about how many companies recruit from abroad to bring skilled workers to their workplace. They sometimes provide them with an apartment or with school places at a nearby International school as part of the package. We own our home and his wage, although its considered good for where we are, isn’t comparable to the work he puts in.

I feel like it’s crunch time, Dd needs an English speaking school and style of teaching. If we can’t have her in a school like that, I believe we should return to the uk.

Would it be crazy to propose this idea to the boss, that as part of his working contract it provides schooling for Dd? We would of course explain the reasons why and that we would have to return to the uk

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:04

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 21:53

Why are you avoiding answering questions?

Did your DH relocate to take up the role in his current company?
Is he on a relocation package?
How does his salary compare to others doing his role or similar roles in the country you are in?
Are you serious about returning to the UK?
How will the Int school help in comparison to hiring a tutor when she is fluent in the language?

I’m reading through all posts and trying to respond?

He didn’t come on a relocation package, was employed once we were here, but these are obviously issues of living abroad. His boss is British too with one of his Dcs having long term illness also and children in the International school.
It’s not really about having a tutor. The school system, way of teaching, smaller class sizes, extra support within class etc, would be so beneficial for Dd now. If she hadn’t got ill, I think she would have been ok staying at her school, sadly lots has changed and now we have to reconsider everything

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Hankol · 25/03/2025 22:02

ex pat thing is confusing as we are ex pats, but he was employed once we were here
I think this will be a hard sell then. As expat type packages are to encourage you over

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 25/03/2025 21:59

I personally think it’s cheeky, but I’m an immigrant. Plenty of children across the world have to adapt to local schools and a new language.

I think it would make more sense to figure out the costs and ask for that as a raise (and sure, explain why). If he pays your fees, surely other employees would expect similar benefits down the line or some sort of accommodation for them as well?

Devonshiregal · 25/03/2025 21:59

It does come across as bit much to take this man’s generosity and use it as a reason as to why he should pay for your child’s education. You seem to have decided that because he’s a multimillionaire he should be ok with funding people off a sob story. I mean, he wouldn’t be a multimillionaire very long if he put his hand in his pocket for every person who came his way with their hands out, would he?

And what does his personal wealth have to do with anything?

It comes down to the health of the business. Can they afford to provide this extra? You’re entitled to ask and should, but threatening with leaving to the uk for a ‘better education’ is probably going to raise an eyebrow seeing as the whole system is falling apart.

Questions to ask yourself before you bring it up would be:
How much of a pay rise would this be in cash terms?
Does anyone else get this?
Are you romanticising the idea of paid schools?
Where do you actually want to live?
Where does your daughter want to live?
Healthcare - you mentioned she’s been ill. I hope she’s doing ok. If you want good healthcare where is best. England is hit and massive miss depending on county right now. More so than usual, I mean.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:57

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/03/2025 21:41

You haven’t answered if your dh is an expat. It appears not at least reading between the lines. Considering a boss isn’t sending his dcs to international school it may be a hard sell. But worth a shot if your prepared to move if not.

He’s only not sending them to an International school as he’s a native of the country and chooses not to, he wants his children in the school system of the country, which makes sense. He’s also incredibly wealthy, so could if he wanted to.
The ex pat thing is confusing as we are ex pats, but he was employed once we were here

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Bumpitybumpbumplook · 25/03/2025 21:55

Before you ask. Find out the full school fees and figure out the annual cost, then cost over the Number of years. You will need to understand how much you are asking for.

Be aware of the possible tax implications in your country:

  1. in some countries, it is tax effective for an employer to pay certain benefits to an expat/overseas hire. But only for a few years because the expat is in country temporarily. It’s attractive for the employer because of tax situation so they are happier to pay the school fees and get the expertise of the overseas hire that is not available locally. Usually 1-3 yrs.
  2. in some countries, if you are a local employee (not expat) and your employer pays school fees it becomes a taxable benefit for you. So, fees are paid but you might be required to pay income tax on the school fees. And employer might have to pay tax as well. Increasing costs for you, and employer.
  3. or, wherever you are it might not have any tax implications but your employer will be increasing employment costs. There might not be free company money available for school fees.
  4. will other employees want this same benefit for their children?

there’s a lot for you to consider before asking

Zezet · 25/03/2025 21:54

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 21:53

Why are you avoiding answering questions?

Did your DH relocate to take up the role in his current company?
Is he on a relocation package?
How does his salary compare to others doing his role or similar roles in the country you are in?
Are you serious about returning to the UK?
How will the Int school help in comparison to hiring a tutor when she is fluent in the language?

Agree with this. You need to answer the questions that are relevant to giving you advice. We understand what your wishes are.

Hwi · 25/03/2025 21:54

HeyThereDelila · 25/03/2025 21:39

I think this would look incredibly weird and inappropriate to most employers.

You are absolutely right - normally people agree their package before committing to a job - health insurance, boarding school, the wage, etc. etc. the lot basically. If your dh can't fund the school easily from his salary, then it will be a big ask - basically, he is changing the terms of his employment contract to which he agreed.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:54

HeyThereDelila · 25/03/2025 21:39

I think this would look incredibly weird and inappropriate to most employers.

Do you really think so? Is it cheeky?

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Booboobagins · 25/03/2025 21:54

Ask him, you never know.

Good luck.

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 21:53

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:50

The lifestyle is incredible, we live in a beautiful area, Dd has a very safe, free childhood, lots of friends, nice community etc. Would be a shame to leave in many ways. We get by okay and have a good lifestyle, just not enough for these fees unfortunately, it’s the only one thing.

Why are you avoiding answering questions?

Did your DH relocate to take up the role in his current company?
Is he on a relocation package?
How does his salary compare to others doing his role or similar roles in the country you are in?
Are you serious about returning to the UK?
How will the Int school help in comparison to hiring a tutor when she is fluent in the language?

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:53

Zezet · 25/03/2025 21:25

I think this is a very good way of putting it, regardless of the status of your husband's job.

(Also notice international schools are often expensive and prestigious, but also a bit of a clusterfuck. Go in with your eyes wide open!)

Clusterfuck how? 😅

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Hwi · 25/03/2025 21:51

RatedDoingMagic · 25/03/2025 20:13

Only ask if you and DH are 100% committed to the plan that if they say no you will return to the uk. If they say no and he stays it will be seriously damaging to his credibility

This

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:50

YourFairCyanReader · 25/03/2025 21:21

If he isn't paid well for the work he puts in, it isn't a good wage compared with other countries, you can't earn as much as you would in the UK, and you would prefer your DD in an English speaking school, why are you staying there? (In case they call your bluff)
I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for the fees BTW, agree completely normal for expat

The lifestyle is incredible, we live in a beautiful area, Dd has a very safe, free childhood, lots of friends, nice community etc. Would be a shame to leave in many ways. We get by okay and have a good lifestyle, just not enough for these fees unfortunately, it’s the only one thing.

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Zonder · 25/03/2025 21:49

HeyThereDelila · 25/03/2025 21:39

I think this would look incredibly weird and inappropriate to most employers.

I guess you've never worked abroad as an "ex-pat".

AltitudeCheck · 25/03/2025 21:45

How much would school fees be a year compared to what your husband currently earns? It's not unreasonable to ask for a review of pay and benefits if he's doing well/ been there a while /is thinking of leaving due to a combination of pay and family circumstances.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:42

Retronight25 · 25/03/2025 20:51

Happy Valley 😮

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Sleepington · 25/03/2025 21:42

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:35

Luckily no other members of the team have kids, aside from this man (his kids are at the school Dd would go to) and another boss, who has children already in public school (he isn’t an ex pat, wouldn’t want his children in an International school)
Would this make a difference?

How much is your DH earning and how much are the school fees?

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/03/2025 21:41

You haven’t answered if your dh is an expat. It appears not at least reading between the lines. Considering a boss isn’t sending his dcs to international school it may be a hard sell. But worth a shot if your prepared to move if not.

HeyThereDelila · 25/03/2025 21:39

I think this would look incredibly weird and inappropriate to most employers.

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/03/2025 21:37

Zezet · 25/03/2025 21:22

Is your husband an expat from his employers' point of view?

Asking because my organisation has expats from our own country + local staff at each branch, but our local staff are often from our own country too. They are however fulfilling roles that are deemed to be locally available, so they would never ever get the expat benefits. Our organisation would never ever go for it either because we do not want the tax implications, the precedent, the hassle, or the principle.

It regularly causes resentment because people see the difference in treatment but not the rationale, and while they are of course told by the organisation that they are very valuable and they are, that always means within the context of "available on the local market at local conditions".

If you are committed to going back to the UK if it doesn't work out, of course, there can be no harm in trying.

This is also our experience. In fact dh was an ‘expat’ in his country of nationality for a while. At another place, one Brit was very salty about not commanding the same benefits as dh and some of their colleagues. There weren’t many others so dh, the boss, a handful of Europeans and a few Americans. Everyone else local contract. His issue was he’d relocated there for the job. But so had a lot of other people as it was a new start up division.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:35

thankyounextplease · 25/03/2025 20:40

I don't know what the laws are where you are, but here you couldn't do it because they'd legally have to offer it to all employees and it would be seen as a benefit in kind, so taxed.

The way around it would be to have the boss do it as a loan that's paid back out of salary. Rich business owners like this because it's a way to reduce corp tax.

Luckily no other members of the team have kids, aside from this man (his kids are at the school Dd would go to) and another boss, who has children already in public school (he isn’t an ex pat, wouldn’t want his children in an International school)
Would this make a difference?

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Zezet · 25/03/2025 21:25

Trallers · 25/03/2025 20:41

I would ask, but in a less direct way. Something like "We've reached the end of the school system here working for DD and sadly feel she needs an English language education. It looks like returning to the uk is likely, but I first just wanted to check that there aren't any funds put aside for employee's children to attend private schools here". If boss then wants to personally offer you money for it he can.

I think this is a very good way of putting it, regardless of the status of your husband's job.

(Also notice international schools are often expensive and prestigious, but also a bit of a clusterfuck. Go in with your eyes wide open!)

midnights92 · 25/03/2025 21:24

I might be being dense, but I'm not clear from your post whether or not you want to ask your bed to personally fund the school fees, as a favour to a friendly colleague, or you are looking to renegotiate a benefit package to include either school fees paid direct, or a pay rise to roughly that amount.

The first would be wildly inapproprioate, even if this person has offered to support your DH as a friend before outside of their professional relationship. The latter is fine, but I think your DH should frame it as something he's looking for as a result of the time he's built up there and to help address the Pull Factors in the UK - steer clear of any sob stories.

Zezet · 25/03/2025 21:22

Is your husband an expat from his employers' point of view?

Asking because my organisation has expats from our own country + local staff at each branch, but our local staff are often from our own country too. They are however fulfilling roles that are deemed to be locally available, so they would never ever get the expat benefits. Our organisation would never ever go for it either because we do not want the tax implications, the precedent, the hassle, or the principle.

It regularly causes resentment because people see the difference in treatment but not the rationale, and while they are of course told by the organisation that they are very valuable and they are, that always means within the context of "available on the local market at local conditions".

If you are committed to going back to the UK if it doesn't work out, of course, there can be no harm in trying.