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To ask Dh’s boss to fund private school for our Dd school

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 20:06

Hear me out, feeling a bit desperate, so maybe not thinking straight about it

We live abroad, Dd has been ill for a while and whilst being bright, she’s had to miss a lot of school and I feel it’s too much of a struggle for her now in her local school, even though she is fluent in the local language.
There are various fee paying International schools nearby, which I feel she’d be so much happier at and they would provide much more support.
They don’t cost as much as in the uk, but it’s still out of our price range.
Dh works really hard for a good wage for where we live, but the wages are very low compared to many other countries.
Dh is an essential member of the team and they really need him as can’t find workers of his level in the area, they’ve told him this and are keen to keep him.
The main shareholder in the company he works for is an extremely wealthy, multimillionaire and a thoroughly nice guy. One of his Dd’s has had similar issues to our Dd and he’s offered to get us appointments (him paying) with various specialists in America, luckily Dd is improving and should be ok 🙏
I was reading about how many companies recruit from abroad to bring skilled workers to their workplace. They sometimes provide them with an apartment or with school places at a nearby International school as part of the package. We own our home and his wage, although its considered good for where we are, isn’t comparable to the work he puts in.

I feel like it’s crunch time, Dd needs an English speaking school and style of teaching. If we can’t have her in a school like that, I believe we should return to the uk.

Would it be crazy to propose this idea to the boss, that as part of his working contract it provides schooling for Dd? We would of course explain the reasons why and that we would have to return to the uk

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LasVegass · 25/03/2025 23:09

9500 whether £ or € is quite an uplift. As PP mentioned, there may be some negative tax implications too. I would chicken out of asking but if you’re desperate and determined, go for it. If your DD is only 7 are you thinking of staying there 10 years? That’s a big commitment for the business to be paying for school and your DH would be expecting some regular year on year pay rises too (if these still happen nowadays).

Neweverything25 · 25/03/2025 23:08

@Zezet I believe there is a fair amount of drama and complicated lives in any school!
@TheSquareMile how could they afford boarding in UK if they can’t afford the local 10K fees.

TeapotTitties · 25/03/2025 23:05

Dh is an essential member of the team and they really need him as can’t find workers of his level in the area, they’ve told him this and are keen to keep him.

It's always nice when employers tell their employees this but please don't overestimate it.

There are plenty of 'indispensable' staff in the dole queues.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 23:04

XelaM · 25/03/2025 22:54

Have you seen "Happy Velley"? 😬

??? Why is Happy valley being mentioned 🙈sorry i’m so confused. Yes I’ve seen it, but why is it relevant to this post?

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 23:02

TheSquareMile · 25/03/2025 22:54

@Justallabitblahreally

I was wondering whether boarding in the UK was an option you could follow up.

Does she need specialised medical care?

Boarding 😬

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Cormoran · 25/03/2025 22:59

It should be asked and done under the scope of wages increase. Otherwise, it would set a precedent the company might not want.
Is it France or Italy? Countries with a high work load? The argument for private schools would be harder to present compared to China or India.

We had it in our relocation package but this was from the first posting we had decades ago and it just rolled country after country. New staff has far less generous packages, school fees are strictly linked to countries. For those coming now to Australia, it has been removed.

LadyNairne · 25/03/2025 22:58

Why don’t you just ask for a raise in salary, to cover school fees?

I don’t understand why all this guessing and conjecture and backstory. It’ll be a yes or no answer and mumsnet can’t tell you either way!

Zezet · 25/03/2025 22:57

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:40

So interesting..! Where do you live? How is unhappy marriages part of it? Are you saying the teachers are fucked up? Why?

We are an academic who's done a fair amount of international teaching + a foreign office civil servant, so all our colleagues and many of our close friends have a lot of experience with this, mostly in Africa, Asia, Middle East (though somehow not Dubai! but Dubai is considered weird even by expat standards).

You'll be very disappointed that right now we are back in Western Europe for a few months ;-).

And yes, some of the teachers are fucked up. Much more so, I think, then at the local secondary school where my mum has worked all her life. In no particular order:

  • The teacher who had a massive drinking problem, showed everyone dick picks of another teacher, and on one drunken sobbing occasion just suddenly bit someone. She was a foreign service child herself and had grown up with a fair bit of trauma (bombings etc). Ended up in the international lifestyle for the same reason - that was just her life.
  • The student who was evacuated from Pakistan and then later was evacuated from a next posting in central Africa and sent away from her single mum (who stayed on post as the civil war raged, to do her job), to her grandmother. She later found her grandmother after a stroke. Later went back on post.
  • The wife met her husband when he was a diplomat in her home country. She loved the lifestyle and the glitter and mostly him. Got married, pregnant, followed him to a next posting. Eight years later two kids, she lives far away from family, and the weather is snow not the hot climate she is from. She is miserable. The kids feel it. There is no grandparents or village close by to keep an eye out. These are your classmates now.
  • The local kid that can pay the fees because their father is in local politics. Local politics are... complicated.
  • The mum died of corona. Her husband and toddler daughter's visas were tied to her job. Not much later, that child was gone from the school.

It's often just hard, and the schools bring a lot of that together.

They can also be the most wonderful schools, of course.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:57

Halfemptyhalfling · 25/03/2025 22:40

If something goes pear shaped at dh work your daughter will be chucked out of school

Yes this is something to think about too

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:56

JockTamsonsBairns · 25/03/2025 22:34

You say that your DD is bright, and fluent in the local language. Also, that she's been ill for a "while".
If she's bright, she should catch up surely? Unless a "while" means a very long time?

I'm sorry, but your OP is quite vague. Therefore it's difficult to advise.

She can catch up, but it’s more than that, the environment and style of teaching isn’t good enough

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raspberrieswithchocolate · 25/03/2025 22:55

Halfemptyhalfling · 25/03/2025 22:40

If something goes pear shaped at dh work your daughter will be chucked out of school

Yes, and it's a lot of pressure on DH to continue at that particular place of employment, even if he becomes unhappy there in the future and wants to leave to work elsewhere.

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 22:54

Are you in Spain OP?

I know you seem determined not to name the country for some reason but there are options that fall between private and state. I was wondering if these could be an option to you?

XelaM · 25/03/2025 22:54

Have you seen "Happy Velley"? 😬

TheSquareMile · 25/03/2025 22:54

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:47

7, there’s only homeschooling really, but not a huge community. She’s very sociable and enjoys learning, a small, supportive place would be perfect for her, it would make such a difference

@Justallabitblahreally

I was wondering whether boarding in the UK was an option you could follow up.

Does she need specialised medical care?

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:54

twigsand · 25/03/2025 22:33

How much more would an international school cost per year? I feel like asking for it to be covered specifically but he could negotiate a salary increase to cover it?

Around 9,500, its a lot, probably a ridiculous idea, clutching at straws I think!

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Zonder · 25/03/2025 22:53

Bumpitybumpbumplook · 25/03/2025 22:41

A private school is a private enterprise, a business, I would expect a good school to be well run financially. A school has employees, facilities, bills to pay and clients. If it’s well run, it could make a profit. Why is that a problem?

Not sure how that is different from an “educational establishment”

Edited

I guess again it comes down to personal experience of international private schools. I've worked in some excellent ones and have worked in / had friends who worked in some truly awful ones which were run either just to make money or as a hobby.

TheSquareMile · 25/03/2025 22:51

Zezet · 25/03/2025 22:38

This is so interesting to me, on Mumsnet it always seems to be about Dubai. I know people absolutely all over the world but none in Dubai. Is there any particular reason it seems to be so popular with UK citizens?

The impression I got from two people I know who worked there was that they were able to make much more money there at that stage of their careers than they would have done in the UK.

One of them was female and in cosmetics marketing, the other was male and in engineering/construction.

My understanding from what they said was that they did really well even though they had no grasp of Arabic, English being widely spoken.

They both enjoyed the lifestyles they had there as young professional expats in Dubai, they are both very gregarious and enjoyed the social side.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:51

Bumpitybumpbumplook · 25/03/2025 22:29

Where I worked, local hires who came from another country had to make a lot of adjustments to get their finances make sense for them in new country.

A lot of times when employees were asking for school fees, or rent paid, the local manager would suggest moving to more affordable area or cutting back on travel.

Be prepared for any response from wealthy boss - he might think: Sure, you could afford school fees if you lived more modestly. Or, might say yes - happily pay.

Before you ask, are there ways you could change your spending to afford the school?

Not at the moment sadly, the cost of everything has gone up so much

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:50

raspberrieswithchocolate · 25/03/2025 22:29

Given your circumstances, no, I don't think so.
Tbh, I think it would be inappropriate for your DH to ask and probably embarrassing for all involved. It's a big ask.

Don't forget that it's not just the fees you have to think about at a private school. There's likely also a hefty fee for uniforms, school books, and extracurricular activities. Even if the annual school fees were paid for, would your current income easily cover these added school related costs?

Could you look into hiring a tutor, familiar with the local school, and who is fluent in English and the local language to help your DD catch up? Plus you could look into ways of helping her adjust again to the local school? What difficulties is she having there, apart from falling behind in schoolwork?

All school books etc are included, uniforms and little extras we could afford, it’s just the fees itself every month

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sheep73 · 25/03/2025 22:48

So your husband was hired on local terms. Renegotiating his contract will be difficult. Easier to ask for a pay rise and explain your looking at sending your daughter to a fee paying school.

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:47

TheSquareMile · 25/03/2025 22:25

@Justallabitblahreally

How old is your daughter and what kind of problems does she have with her health?

I'm wondering whether there are other suitable options for you.

7, there’s only homeschooling really, but not a huge community. She’s very sociable and enjoys learning, a small, supportive place would be perfect for her, it would make such a difference

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 22:45

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 22:20

Has he ever asked for a raise? Is he a vital part of the management team?
It can't do any harm to ask for a raise and if they believe he is an integral part of the management team, then surely they will consider it?

Out of interest, why do you think your DD will get on better in an Int school where they will primarily speak Eng instead of the local school when she is already fluent in the local language? If you're not happy in the school, could you look at moving house so she gets into a better state school? Or as a PP suggested, try to hire a tutor to help her for a few hours every week? Having one to one tutoring can only benefit her as they can concentrate on the areas she is having the most difficulty with?

I don’t like the style of teaching where we are, the classes are large, less support available. Before Dd was ill, I wasn’t 100 percent happy with it, but she coped ok and thankfully picked up the language and so on. Now, she’s v unhappy there and it’s just not the right system for her.
It’s this or go home for me as it’s the most important thing

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Sleepington · 25/03/2025 22:44

Zezet · 25/03/2025 22:38

This is so interesting to me, on Mumsnet it always seems to be about Dubai. I know people absolutely all over the world but none in Dubai. Is there any particular reason it seems to be so popular with UK citizens?

Higher salaries and attractive taxation.

WORKERbeen · 25/03/2025 22:44

Zezet · 25/03/2025 22:38

This is so interesting to me, on Mumsnet it always seems to be about Dubai. I know people absolutely all over the world but none in Dubai. Is there any particular reason it seems to be so popular with UK citizens?

Tax free, good compensation - if you have a good career you get paid better than London rates and get to keep most of your money. It is also low crime, you live in gorgeous gated communities with pools and only interact with brits or people who can speak English. Dubai has been literally bee hand made to attract certain talents - it’s a curated city.

its not for me, I have visited my family but I could never call it home - it’s like a new build estate on many many steroids lol

Bumpitybumpbumplook · 25/03/2025 22:41

Zonder · 25/03/2025 22:32

I would add that some international schools are basically private enterprise and run as a business rather than an educational establishment. In my experience.

A private school is a private enterprise, a business, I would expect a good school to be well run financially. A school has employees, facilities, bills to pay and clients. If it’s well run, it could make a profit. Why is that a problem?

Not sure how that is different from an “educational establishment”