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To ask Dh’s boss to fund private school for our Dd school

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Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 20:06

Hear me out, feeling a bit desperate, so maybe not thinking straight about it

We live abroad, Dd has been ill for a while and whilst being bright, she’s had to miss a lot of school and I feel it’s too much of a struggle for her now in her local school, even though she is fluent in the local language.
There are various fee paying International schools nearby, which I feel she’d be so much happier at and they would provide much more support.
They don’t cost as much as in the uk, but it’s still out of our price range.
Dh works really hard for a good wage for where we live, but the wages are very low compared to many other countries.
Dh is an essential member of the team and they really need him as can’t find workers of his level in the area, they’ve told him this and are keen to keep him.
The main shareholder in the company he works for is an extremely wealthy, multimillionaire and a thoroughly nice guy. One of his Dd’s has had similar issues to our Dd and he’s offered to get us appointments (him paying) with various specialists in America, luckily Dd is improving and should be ok 🙏
I was reading about how many companies recruit from abroad to bring skilled workers to their workplace. They sometimes provide them with an apartment or with school places at a nearby International school as part of the package. We own our home and his wage, although its considered good for where we are, isn’t comparable to the work he puts in.

I feel like it’s crunch time, Dd needs an English speaking school and style of teaching. If we can’t have her in a school like that, I believe we should return to the uk.

Would it be crazy to propose this idea to the boss, that as part of his working contract it provides schooling for Dd? We would of course explain the reasons why and that we would have to return to the uk

OP posts:
Bumpitybumpbumplook · 26/03/2025 08:22

Talk w DH, evaluate you financial situation and prioritize. If your child is top priority and u want to stay. Find cheapest place to live, cut back on extras. try for a merit based pay rise (not I need money to buy things) and pay for the school or move back to home country.

lavenderlou · 26/03/2025 08:00

It's not clear from your OP if this wealthy shareholder is your DH's direct boss. Is he responsible for contract negotiations/salary? Or are you hoping he will "sponsor" your DD's schooling in the way he offered to pay for healthcare?

Viviennemary · 26/03/2025 07:58

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 20:11

Haven’t put it to him, just been thinking about it first, i’m thinking he may say it’s ridiculous, but he’s not the type who pushes for anything.

I don't think it's a good idea. It puts him in a very awkward position. And he could feel he can't show such favouritism to one person. Other workers may have family difficulties too.

farmlife2 · 26/03/2025 07:55

I think this generally would come under 'parental responsibility'. As a local hire or because of the ex-pat choice.

If DH's contract is due for renegotiation soon, he could try to get this included in the package, but it seems much less likely as a local hire. He may be better trying to get his salary increased to cover fees.

This would be an unusual thing to include unless your DH is working at a school you'd like your child to attend.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 26/03/2025 07:51

I don't think you can ask this of your DH. It's not fair. He can start looking for other jobs and give his employer the heads up that he needs to find somewhere with a suitable affordable school and see if his employer wants to up his offer ( if they want him that much).

JockTamsonsBairns · 26/03/2025 07:46

Do you work, OP?

Munnygirl · 26/03/2025 07:42

OneAmberFinch · 26/03/2025 00:35

Why is everyone making this so complicated?

If DH is the most senior person in this country's branch bar the boss, it's entirely expected that he would be able to negotiate a custom compensation package. It possibly sounds like he didn't do that when he started due to his personality, but that doesn't make it weird (or "frankly embarrassing" as one PP put it?!) - it's entirely standard!

Even if he is a local employee, he can still negotiate for a raise just as he would as a senior employee of a British company.

The only thing I wouldn't do is ask the boss personally for money. It may be that he decides, on hearing your request, to fund it himself for some reason - I don't know the norms of the country you're in - but it would be weird to ask that directly.

I also would not write the request in an email. I'd set up a 1-1 meeting with the boss and explain the situation. It seems that you will go back to the UK in any case if you can't get private school, so there is no downside to being direct.

💯 this

LlynTegid · 26/03/2025 07:27

I agree with your view on boarding school and not being something to have as an option.

You need to have a plan if the answer is no in my opinion. Probably a plan to return to the UK.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 26/03/2025 07:06

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 23:35

To those that think I should give it a try, how would you write an email phrasing it?
I do want to include the part about Dd having been ill, not to try to gain sympathy (boss already knows) but for him to understand this is the reason and it wouldn’t be an issue otherwise

I’m rubbish at thinking about how to approach it…maybe that we were wondering if there were any opportunity for school fees to be included somehow due to..,(all reasons explained) saying we are contemplating returning to the uk due to this reason etc etc? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I would leave it up to your DH as he knows his employers better than you do, presumably.

Whyherewego · 26/03/2025 07:03

So whilst many expat packages include private schooling, be aware these are very expensive ! So you are basically asking for a massive pay rise for DH.
Only DH can judge whether he's worth it and whether his boss will agree. I know someone whose package didn't include school fees and was unable to renegotiate once he had kids so that was that. Your DH may be successful.

However personally I'd not do the DD illness angle. I think it's simply that you are reaching the end of the road in the state system and want DD to have schooling in English and would he consider including this as part of the package. But maybe this guy is more prone to heart strings being pulled. It really depends

handsdownthebest · 26/03/2025 07:02

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 21:53

Clusterfuck how? 😅

My DC went to International Schools for all their schooling, they have done very well and went to british universities. Always been great schools.
it would have been good to ask at the start of their posting to have schooling included.
Ask, he can only say no but might reject it as it will set a precedent if he agrees to it.

HoppingPavlova · 26/03/2025 06:53

I've a feeling it's Portugal and this is the OP whose daughter has PANS/Pandas and has missed a lot of school. Previously OP was talking about moving back to the UK and trying to just start again in reception although her daughter is a year or two older. I could be mistaken of course

Whether or not this is the case, I think OP may be looking through rose coloured glasses thinking the UK public schooling system will solve the problem. I think OP needs to really investigate whether the UK system will be supportive of her child’s SEN. If you listen to a lot of people with SEN kids, the struggles many face to achieve a special needs educational learning plan, then even with one the ‘want’ of schools to work with you, it will likely be a very different scenario to that on paper of how UK schools ‘should’ work well in this regard. So in practice may not be the panacea envisaged. I imagine with PANS you’d struggle with recognition of educational adjustments even in the UK system.

jeaux90 · 26/03/2025 06:48

Op I’d negotiate this a different way, but you’ll need to be prepared to execute on it.

I would say “we need to move back to the UK so DD can go to an English school, she is so far behind, local school is not going to help and we don’t see another way through this as we can’t afford the international/private schools”

then you shut up. You wait to see what he says. He might offer to fix the situation without you actually asking.

Risk is he will say ok, and you move back, but it seems that you might have to do that anyway for your DD.

IVbumble · 26/03/2025 06:43

I think it might be Cyprus.

Is there a possibility of paying 50% of school fees & asking for a raise to cover the remaining 50%?

FridayNight1975 · 26/03/2025 06:41

have you considered a private school but not an international one?

where i’m from in Spain, a very good private school is only €400/month and nowadays most of them teach some subject in English.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 26/03/2025 06:40

Emanresuunknown · 26/03/2025 06:21

I've a feeling it's Portugal and this is the OP whose daughter has PANS/Pandas and has missed a lot of school. Previously OP was talking about moving back to the UK and trying to just start again in reception although her daughter is a year or two older. I could be mistaken of course

In which case the only reason to try and move her to a private school would be the workload, but then again the international school will still be located in Portugal and the workload will be similar. Portugal just has a lot of tests and homework for children, it always has (even though parents have tried to control this for a number of years now).

I can’t imagine anything more miserable than taking a 7 year old out of school in Portugal and chucking them back in the UK, though.

@Justallabitblahreally initially I had missed your DD is 7. That is really young and she’s still adapting, don’t panic. Children are very resilient.

But yes, the workload is Portugal won’t go down. You can always try and liaise with the teacher so that they can make accommodations for her and help her catch up.

Mauro711 · 26/03/2025 06:34

Emanresuunknown · 26/03/2025 06:25

I think the other crucial element to this is are both you and your husband British, or is this the home country of your DH (or he is a native speaker of the language there?) because I don't think your DH would be considered an expat if this is his country of origin

He’s not an expat because he’s on a local contract. You can be an expat and have the same nationality as the country you are in, it all depends on your contract.

Emanresuunknown · 26/03/2025 06:25

I think the other crucial element to this is are both you and your husband British, or is this the home country of your DH (or he is a native speaker of the language there?) because I don't think your DH would be considered an expat if this is his country of origin

Emanresuunknown · 26/03/2025 06:21

Sleepington · 25/03/2025 22:54

Are you in Spain OP?

I know you seem determined not to name the country for some reason but there are options that fall between private and state. I was wondering if these could be an option to you?

Edited

I've a feeling it's Portugal and this is the OP whose daughter has PANS/Pandas and has missed a lot of school. Previously OP was talking about moving back to the UK and trying to just start again in reception although her daughter is a year or two older. I could be mistaken of course

Mauro711 · 26/03/2025 06:09

Valeriekat · 26/03/2025 05:36

As others have said, most expats get schooling included as part of the package so you certainly should ask.

He’s not an expat, he’s a local hire just like his colleagues.

user1492757084 · 26/03/2025 06:08

Winter 8090 seems to have rational advice there.

If asking politely doesn't work, I suggest you keep DD in her cheaper native school, if you can't afford the International one.
Seek and pay for some teachers from the IS to tutor your child in a couple of subject areas and maybe pay for your child to take up a hobby that can transfer to a later school and be joyous for her throughout her whole life.

When you move back to the UK expect that your DD will start a year behind her same age peers so that she can catch up without stress.

Otherwise, have you approached the International school to see if your DD would qualify for a bursary or lower fees due to her bringing special qualities to the school? Is she great at English, sporty, gifted in science, musci etc.?

winter8090 · 26/03/2025 05:53

Not unreasonable at all. He should ask for his package to he reviewed noting that compatible positions include school fees and ask if his package could be reviewed to include that.
I wouldn’t justify this with your DDs position but instead with the contribution he brings to the company and the market rate for the role he does.

Valeriekat · 26/03/2025 05:36

As others have said, most expats get schooling included as part of the package so you certainly should ask.

Zonder · 26/03/2025 05:21

Justallabitblahreally · 25/03/2025 23:36

Yes, I think if we do it, we have to be much more direct?

Yes. Does your DH have opportunity to chat face to face one to one with the boss? If so he could bring it up then and just say about how your dds illness means you think she would be better off in an English speaking school with a different style, and is there any way at all this could be covered by the company.

If he doesn't have that opportunity then a similarly worded email would do.

What does your DH think? He knows the boss and the work culture so I imagine he would be better placed to word it. If you don't ask you won't get.

And the Happy Valley reference is totally irrelevant, unless you suspect your DH will do something nefarious if he gets a no!

FindingNemosBall · 26/03/2025 01:19

I live abroad in a very similar situation/ professional set up.
It is incredibly common in these situations that schooling/education, spousal visas, additional contract bonuses to cover flights for visits home etc. are included as part of the standard salary package for international staff who are working in a role that couldn't be recruited for locally.

Research similar companies in the industry and find out what their salary packages are before proposing it, just to give yourselves some facts to fall back on if it opens a discussion rather than a black or white answer.