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Reported possible benefit fraud

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snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:16

I suspect someone of claiming carers allowance fraudulently, and after bottling out several times, I just submitted a report. It’s likely to get back to me if something comes of this and I feel like the bad guy for doing it. Am I the bad guy?! Should I just not have said anything?!

To claim you need to be providing 35 hours a week of care and also earn under a certain threshold and I’m fairly sure this person meets neither of those criteria. (If I’m wrong, of course, there will be no ill effect to the claim).

Feel quite stressed.

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Chuchoter · 25/03/2025 20:09

I'm pleased you reported someone who may very well be taking the piss out of the benefit system.

EmeraldRoulette · 25/03/2025 19:48

i doubt @snitchapparently will return but I'd be interested to know what you think you know about these people

you think AA is easy to get. I mean FFS.

I'm not saying there's zero fraudulent claims

but the idea that someone is mean enough to report a suspicion...something is very wrong here. It must be a personal grudge methinks.

SolarSaviour · 25/03/2025 19:42

Who would stop working for £327 per month to be a carer ?

Fact
Lots of people do for their family & friends

I know people in their 50s & 60s who have stopped working & look after their elderly parents.

Parents who receive state pension & attendance allowance

Never ending health issues, health appointments, hospital admissions
Never ending admin issues
Never ending stress, worry

Who will be looking after you when you are old & sick ?

People are living longer, with complex health issues

Some people look normal, but have complex health needs !

Friendofdennis · 25/03/2025 19:34

youcannaecallherfanny · 25/03/2025 18:24

I was maliciously reported for this before. They suspended my CA whilst they investigated. Though the person saw me working during the day, they didn’t see that I barely sleep and provide care pretty much non stop from the minute I finish my job, then through the night. That includes physical care, emotional support and all admin, money, trips out, banking, shopping, cleaning, everything we do in our day to day lives. And I’m constantly on call 24/7 for the person I care for too. I never ever get a break, respite or anything. Right just now I’m batch cooking meals for their freezer. So I was investigated and found to be telling the truth obviously. But it really upset me and made me question everyone.

You are doing a wonderful thing.

Friendofdennis · 25/03/2025 19:12

Blemin · 25/03/2025 17:25

Year ago, when I was a family carer, someone online doxxed and reported me, just to hurt me. They stopped my money and investigated me. I ate one meal a day so I could keep heating the house for my tetraplegic husband. I was so so afraid.

Even though it was dismissed, that single report marked us for life, and we were investigated over and over again - by the DSS, by tax credits, by the housing, for years. I was threatened with prosecution while lying in intensive care, near death. I had never breached a single condition of our benefit claim.

Well done OP. You've played your little part, another brick in the wall.

That is so awful. I am sorry

Porcelainpig · 25/03/2025 19:01

Even working FT, you can still care for five or so hours in the evening in the week and then there's a full 48 hours at the weekend too. Then there's night care.

If you have a disabled child you will be caring throughout the holidays too as there are no holiday clubs.

If they are working full time they will be over the earning threshold, but CA is not the only benefit you get for caring. If you are a parent you will get child DLA with a disabled child. Some people don't even bother with CA even though they are eligible through earnings, as it just gets taken off UC anyway.

I think there is the possibility it is one of these benefits. You have have caused a shit show for no reason OP.

lifeturnsonadime · 25/03/2025 18:50

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/03/2025 18:47

So.. to sum up.

There are too many disabled people claiming benefits, that needs to be slashed and if it means some disabled people no longer qualify or don't get what they need to survive 'too bad, at least the con artists are no longer winning'.

However someone claiming carers allowance who is working full time and earning over the threshold (and working full time would mean you're over the threshold as that sum is TINY!)... carry on, its a pittance, they deserve it even if they're claiming fraudulently by all possible means.

You either have major comprehension issues or are talking about another thread.

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/03/2025 18:47

So.. to sum up.

There are too many disabled people claiming benefits, that needs to be slashed and if it means some disabled people no longer qualify or don't get what they need to survive 'too bad, at least the con artists are no longer winning'.

However someone claiming carers allowance who is working full time and earning over the threshold (and working full time would mean you're over the threshold as that sum is TINY!)... carry on, its a pittance, they deserve it even if they're claiming fraudulently by all possible means.

Hdjdb42 · 25/03/2025 18:47

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:47

Sorry, I’m not sure I understand? What letter and why?

The person being cared for is sent a letter. This letter says, someone is claiming carers allowance, as they're caring for you. Fill in the form to state your carers name and how many hours they care for you. So univeral credit will find out if it's fraudulent.

Porcelainpig · 25/03/2025 18:47

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:24

Yes I know how much a true carer does, but I don’t believe this is a carer situation. Person works full time, doesn’t spend all day caring for said person.

There will be no affect on their claim if somehow their full time job doesn’t actually earn that much money, which is unlikely.

But fair enough, general consensus is to allow people to claim money not entitled to, I shall keep that one in mind, thanks all for the consensus 😊

I think they would probably be aware if the person works full time, so think you may have fucked up here. Are you sure they are not getting carer element of UC, not carers allowance? Carers element is related to income, but there isn't a threshold you go over and it just stops like CA. You need to provide 35 hours of care for this too.

You do realise caring isn't just arsewiping? It's admin, shopping, caring and supervising at night, arranging medication, helping with appointments?

But fair enough, general consensus is to allow people to claim money not entitled to, I shall keep that one in mind, thanks all for the consensus

The general consensus is how on earth could you possibly know how many hours they care or what they earn (unless they have told you outright they are claiming fraudulently), so why put someone through stress that is already probably stressed? I really hope you don't have to claim one day and get the same treatment.

Uricon2 · 25/03/2025 18:47

What I can't understand is why the OP has taken to MN to say what she's done if she's so confident that she's in the right (even though she actually seems less than absolutely sure about her facts and has potentially brought down a world of pain on the person reported)

Never mind, off to work out how to spend the princely £1.40 per week increase in Carers Allowance I'll get from 7/4/25.

McQueensMuse · 25/03/2025 18:39

@snitchapparently How do you know for absolute certain that this person receives carers allowance?

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Hoppymclimpy · 25/03/2025 18:35

lifeturnsonadime · 25/03/2025 17:10

Are you interested OP in the fact that I tried to stop claiming carers allowance over a month ago because whilst I still care full time I have found a job that I can wrap around caring and I'm not eligible for universal credit.

I contacted the DWP using the online form and, low and behold, they've still paid it this month even though I've asked them not to.

Perhaps making it easier to stop benefits could be a better angle for the DWP / government to take? I'm perfectly aware that I will now need to pay this back at some point, what a palaver.

Exactly the same situation for my Dad. He has requested 8 times that the DWP stop paying him as his wife is now in a home. After 16 months they have finally stopped, and instead sent him incredibly harsh letters demanding the money be returned with threats of court. Luckily my Dad kept these payments separate and has returned them, complete with copies of the emails & dates he called attempting to stop the payments.

OP- I really hope you are sure. As a PP has stated, your actions will start a chain of events that could see ALL benefits stopped for this family unit & then having to wait for them to be reinstated once they've proven they are entitled. This could well take months. As for AA bring easy to recieve? Please know how, in my experience, it really isn't.

youcannaecallherfanny · 25/03/2025 18:24

I was maliciously reported for this before. They suspended my CA whilst they investigated. Though the person saw me working during the day, they didn’t see that I barely sleep and provide care pretty much non stop from the minute I finish my job, then through the night. That includes physical care, emotional support and all admin, money, trips out, banking, shopping, cleaning, everything we do in our day to day lives. And I’m constantly on call 24/7 for the person I care for too. I never ever get a break, respite or anything. Right just now I’m batch cooking meals for their freezer. So I was investigated and found to be telling the truth obviously. But it really upset me and made me question everyone.

ThunderLeaf · 25/03/2025 18:23

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:24

Yes I know how much a true carer does, but I don’t believe this is a carer situation. Person works full time, doesn’t spend all day caring for said person.

There will be no affect on their claim if somehow their full time job doesn’t actually earn that much money, which is unlikely.

But fair enough, general consensus is to allow people to claim money not entitled to, I shall keep that one in mind, thanks all for the consensus 😊

I'm actually pretty against the amount of benefits but even I think your logic is wrong. Even if they were working full time 7/8hrs a day theres still time to be caring in the morning before work, after work, dinner time, getting ready for bed, possibly up through the night.

They might not be doing any of that but it seems you don't even know for sure.

And they're working too... It's the people who don't work and are getting a benefits package worth the same as a 50k job after tax, those people rinse the system.

I think you were wrong here.

100percenthagitude · 25/03/2025 18:21

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:56

No, I knew it would be a mixed bag! Though the support for fraudulent claims is larger than I’d have thought.

But you don't know if it's a fraudulent claim. You said that yourself.

What I am seeing on this thread is solidarity against curtain twitching busybodies who do not have a clue what caring looks like.

You're fed up of following the rules and seeing others "coin it in"? Bloody unbelievable. May karma come and find you

ZookeeperSE · 25/03/2025 18:19

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Mo819 · 25/03/2025 18:18

You must be pretty close to this person to know so much about there finances

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/03/2025 18:17

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:24

Yes I know how much a true carer does, but I don’t believe this is a carer situation. Person works full time, doesn’t spend all day caring for said person.

There will be no affect on their claim if somehow their full time job doesn’t actually earn that much money, which is unlikely.

But fair enough, general consensus is to allow people to claim money not entitled to, I shall keep that one in mind, thanks all for the consensus 😊

You know there's 168 hours in a week? That leaves 133 where they could be caring (although they probably aren't receiving CA in the first place if they're actually working fulltime, so you've just reported a non existent fraud).

Bitofanchange · 25/03/2025 18:15

thankyounextplease · 25/03/2025 18:07

Um because if you don't report benefit fraud you're implicated yourself.

Um OP doesn’t know its benefit fraud, so she’s not implicated at all.

Inmydreams88 · 25/03/2025 18:14

Your not a happy person are you OP
I feel sorry for you.

lindyloo57 · 25/03/2025 18:14

I know someone how go to a food bank every week, they have over £30, 000 in the bank, apparently they says anyone can go there, they do no checks, I thought you had to have note from your doctor. What do I know, but I won't report them.

PrimitivePerson · 25/03/2025 18:13

When I was younger, I was obsessed with following rules and doing the right thing, and I probably would have reported this person as well. However, with age has come an understanding of nuance, perspective, privacy, conscience, and the situations people find themselves in. There's no way I'd casually toss a grenade into anyone's life like this any more.

Plenty of obscene wastes of taxpayer's money are available, but this isn't one of them.

Vaxtable · 25/03/2025 18:12

Well done. I have also reported people, and fraud was proved

They don’t tell the person they are investigating

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