Reported possible benefit fraud

So naive. UC are currently going through everyone’s claims, and even though I know I’m not ‘up to anything’ I’m still dreading the phonecall where I’ll have to explain all my outgoings. It’s a humiliation reserved only for those who claim help.

I couldn’t claim CA, but I was a carer, for a long time, for my late husband.

Its a 24/7 “job” and one of the hardest things to do in life - it involves absolutely everything.🙄

Nights awake, days non stop, especially if you have a paid job as well.

Well done for making someone’s life harder though. 🙄

And all these sick and disabled people who is going to employ them

If I recall correctly, in Aktion T4 some could operate the crematoria

Here's a new poster for this campaign. You can try to ask ChatGPT to translate it. However even "AI" balks at it.

The information given on this thread alone @JitterbugFairy is that this is not the case

If they're claiming genuinely,then they have nothing to worry about.

I might believe all kinds o3f things about my friends and family. In the absence of evidence, Belief is not a good reason to attempt to interfere in something that doesn't concern me. I refer you to many hundreds of years of a developing justice system in which evidence is a requirement, not belief. Otherwise we'd still be burning witches.

Surely if you believe that someone is doing something wrong, whether abusing a person, taking what they are not entitled to, driving when dangerous then it is your duty as a responsible citizen to report it. It will be investigated and if found to be correct the wrongdoer will be held accountable.

Nothing like making yourself feel better by making someone else feel worse is there OP? Do enjoy your day.

Also by making pip much harder to claim lots of carers will lose their entitlement and be forced to look for work even though they are full time carers. And all these sick and disabled people who is going to employ them and who is going to keep them in work when their chronic conditions mean they take more time off sick or are unable to do the things their well colleagues can do?

Actually I believe carers allowance (and DLA) is fully on the agenda. Not because of the money (as I said, most people who claim it don’t actually see a penny after UC takes it back), but because it gives an out on having to look for work with the job centre. I suspect they’ll halve it or make us jump through a million hoops and paperwork to prove that we’re actually caring every second of the 35 hours a week. Any loophole to say ‘that’s not good enough’ and they’ll have carers down the job centre along with those under their care. I genuinely don’t understand why the government doesn’t pay home carers a taxable minimum wage, it would be two birds/one stone fix.

@Simplynotsimple I could of course be proved wrong but I doubt the Govt will come after Carers Allowance. The recipients of this humbling largesse, currently £81.90 a week (and of course those who don't claim due to age or earnings) save the country over 180 billion a year (try filling that hole Rachel)

The most evil thing, is that a lot of benefit bashing is really achieved by appealing to peoples guilt over the fact that the disabled get a shit deal in life.

Rather than channel that guilt into improving life for the disabled, it's perverted into the Snitch-As-A-Service mindset of the OP.

There were so many threads of this flavour about PiP claimants before the government suddenly decided to change the goalposts. Are they now planting threads about carers allowance to stir the pot? Because (and not troll hunting) there is so much that doesn’t make sense here. You can’t work full time and claim carers for one. My friend went from being a full time carer to working around drop off/pick up times and was just under the threshold. However some weeks required cover or other paid additional time and CA were very on the case, they’d stop it if there was even a whiff of going over the limit. Friend just stopped claiming eventually as it wasn’t worth going back and forth over it. Of course those who claim CA and don’t work full time often claim UC as well, and they take CA away £1 for £1 so you don’t actually get a penny of it anyway. Just seems to me like the op hasn’t the full facts of the situation and is blundering ahead over some sort of ‘see it/say it’ war on benefits…

The excellent biblical advice about tending to the fucking tree trunk in your own eye before you comment on the dust in anothers does rather spring to mind.

Someone I used to know reported her BIL for serious sexual misconduct against his own child because of something the child had said while being driven in this person’s car (I have to say when she told me what the child had said I was shocked that she had leapt to the conclusions she did). The BIL was investigated and found to be innocent. The reason the child had said what she had proved to be innocuous. So the BIL was exonerated. Except that the stress brought him to a terrible low and he slashed his wrists (thankfully, he survived). My acquaintance’s only act of redemption was to help to clear up the place where he had made the attempt.

I know op’s case isn’t as extreme but people who care can have very fragile mental health because if it can be so stressful. At least check your facts before you make allegations.

Yes, I am registered as a carer but have never claimed carers allowance as I earn too much in my job.

Generally, cruelty and low intelligence limit peoples imagination.

£151 per week. Jesus Christ. Even if half of those were fraudulent claims (they aren’t) could you imagine the tax payer burden if all these women dumped their loved ones on to the councils to sort out?

You can’t claim carers allowance if you earn over £151 pw ( after tax & ni) so ft work would earn you over that making you ineligible.

To me, feeling so stressed about something can mean it is wrong.
Do know for sure the this person is claiming carers allowance? By the way, that is different to just being registered as a carer for someone.
35 hours in a week is nothing at all.

Someone that is rightfully claiming can still have their money stopped if someone reports them whilst DWP investigate. So make sure you are absolutely 100% about this.

DWP and HMRC historically don’t link up their info and this isn’t a new claim.

I 100% promise you they DO cross reference each other!! I claim CA and have accidentally been overpaid by work. CA sent me a massive form to fill out as HMRC have notified them I’ve earned more than is allowed (it’s all sorted now) but they absolutely speak to each other and it would have been flagged up by them.

I’m reading this whilst sitting in bed exhausted. Left my temp home this morning at 8pm to clean my disabled relative home, went back there this afternoon moving furniture, buying lunches for the week ahead, organising money for carers, and doing laundry.

Tomorrow its a light admin day dealing with their doctors, and speaking with carers about adding additional hours, booking therapy gym sessions, and trying to get additional access into his care home which is safeguarding battle. No one will see this work but it will like take over 4 hours of my day. Everything is a battle and this is just the light admin I have other longterm admin that requires lawyers, building work that needs addressing etc…

Not withstanding that I have my own health issues, my own job, my own home to clean, clothes to wash and food to buy etc…

I’m not sure about the person you’ve judged from the outside looking in you however must be a an exemplary carer.

Anyway, have to call my relative now to prompt them to go to bed. I’ve also spent about an hour tonight intermittently checking some cameras in their flat (for reasons around their disability). I‘ll make the long drive back to my home tomorrow but I’ll spend the evenings intermittently checking the cameras, and will be back next week but my ‘care responsibilities’ won’t stop.

I forgot to mention I also have to plan fun things, carers to coordinate, money to distribute.

I don’t claim carers allowance but I’m trying to show you how 35 hours can build up and providing care doesn’t happen within a 9-5 window, and what ‘care’ is is very individual to the disabled person needs. I just hope your complaint doesn’t impact the care the disabled person gets because in all of this you’ve failed to mention or show any concern for the disabled person.

You just seem miffed that someone is getting something you’re not.

Which is still a massive amount of money

How do you even KNOW this person is claiming carers allowance? Can you see their bank account?.

Also Many people use names for benefits that aren't the right name. People often say carers allowance when they mean their parent is getting attendance allowance

Or neither, I am talking broadly about the 'MN attitude' reflected in multiple threads I've seen in the last week, which seems to be that cuts to disability benefits are inevitable and 'oh well, but its necessary so suck it up' but reporting potential fraud is 'gasp, clutch pearls, horror' an outrageous thing to do!

But do feel free to assume I am a moron, that's obviously the most logical answer and far better to jump to that conclusion than simply ask me to clarify eh!