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To be a little bit sad I can't ever marry

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Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 13:29

I didn't think I'd ever want to. I was financially independent with adult DC, a happy single life and very active social life. I couldn't see any benefits to having a man in my life and only risks in marrying one!

Then I met a man who has changed everything. I'll spare you the soppy bits, but he makes me very happy and we spend a lot of time together, at home and travelling.

He's never been married. I know we can't marry, to protect my DC and to prevent things getting complicated for them and he understands that, but I'm sad that we can't.

We cannot even live together without things getting complicated. A friend's mother has recently died leaving her "new" partner of 17 years in the house. She left a will protecting her DC, but giving him the right to stay in the house while he needs it. So the DC are now faced with an indefinitely delayed inheritance and the "agro" of having him living in "their" house. OTOH she'd lived with him for 17 years, presumably she wanted him taken care of, which people here don't seem to understand when they talk about parents' estates.

Anyway, we'll carry on as we are, but it does sometimes seem a shame.

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 25/03/2025 15:30

FiveTreeHill · 25/03/2025 13:47

I don't think your friends situation is particularly complex

Her mother's partner has lived there fir 17 years and her mother wanted them to remain protected in their home once she died.

It doesn't affect the children unless they are selfish or money grabbing. No one is entitled to an inheritance. Their mother could have lived for many more years "delaying" their inheritance, or sold her house to go traveling or needed care.

You can get married, and you can protect your assets if you want. Or you can do as your doing now, but its a choice you make and no option has been taken away from you

We are in this situation and its not always that people are selfish or money grabbing
We expected my Mums partner to die before her but that didn't happen, we also never expected to inherit her house as we assumed she would need care.
However, now there is an 85 year old man living in a property that is completely unsuitable for him with no family nearby. About 6 months before my Mum died she told me that if anything happened to her he would be better off in residential care but as he has somewhere to live he can't access it. Their relationship had also deteriorated to the extent that she had talked about changing her will but she didn't get around to it.
In the meantime I know that at some point I will need to clear out my Mums house and deal with her things so I have no closure at all

Whohasseenmyglasses · 25/03/2025 15:30

She left a will protecting her DC, but giving him the right to stay in the house while he needs it. So the DC are now faced with an indefinitely delayed inheritance and the "agro" of having him living in "their" house.

I don't think any adult children should be waiting for a parent to die so they can inherit.

The inheritance is a bonus.

I have an aunt who did exactly this. Or rather her husband did. 2nd time for both of them- widow and widower.

He died, she was left a lifetime residency in what was his house (she'd sold hers when they married.)

Eventually she went into a care home and at that point the house was sold.

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 25/03/2025 15:29

You can get married. You’re just choosing not to for various reasons which could all be overcome if you wanted them to.

Swiftie1878 · 25/03/2025 15:29

Your choice not to marry.
Don't blame your kids or society; it’s on you.

Whohasseenmyglasses · 25/03/2025 15:27

BendingSpoons · 25/03/2025 15:18

Presumably he doesn't own his own house? If you were financially equal, there would be less risk to your children's inheritance. You could move in with him and rent your house out.

Or vice versa.

Whohasseenmyglasses · 25/03/2025 15:26

Presumably this man (older not a young man) has his own home?

So he can sell it or rent it out and it's his asset if you die first.

He wouldn't be homeless if you left you home to your children.

The odds are that he, as a man, will die before you.

So he should be worried about his assets if you marry!

You're making a problem which doesn't exist.

I can't believe that you don't understand there are wills and trusts for this and that literally thousands of older people marry in later life and protect their assets.

Go and see a solicitor.

OneBlueShoe · 25/03/2025 15:22

Repeating others, of course you can marry. Most people would in your situation (if they wanted to marry).

It's only your risk aversion that's stopping you. Why don't you take some legal advice about how best to protect your kids etc?

BrownieBlondie01 · 25/03/2025 15:20

ColourBlueColourPurple · 25/03/2025 15:17

It's actually refreshing to hear someone put the interests of their children over getting with a new partner or marrying them. Most people, especially men, are happy to put their kids financial or emotional wellbeing at risk to satisfy their own wants and needs.

But OP is talking about adult children? Should she really be on the hook for their 'financial wellbeing' ie preserving their inheritance ahead of her own wishes, while she's still very much alive??

Seems wrong to me.

BendingSpoons · 25/03/2025 15:18

Presumably he doesn't own his own house? If you were financially equal, there would be less risk to your children's inheritance. You could move in with him and rent your house out.

ColourBlueColourPurple · 25/03/2025 15:17

It's actually refreshing to hear someone put the interests of their children over getting with a new partner or marrying them. Most people, especially men, are happy to put their kids financial or emotional wellbeing at risk to satisfy their own wants and needs.

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 25/03/2025 15:14

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 14:10

The numerous threads here about children who've lost everything or had difficult sotuatuons to unravel because a parent remarried?

And it's not just death, divorce would see DC's pot reduce.

And yes of course there are numerous other things that might affect their inheritance, but they wouldn't amount to their mother giving it away.

This is crazy. My mother is happily re married, however if it went wrong I may well be concerned for her and her finances but I wouldn't be there thinking about my inheritance?! It's her money and her life, she's not some kind of caretaker for my future funds.

live your life OP, not theirs!

BrownieBlondie01 · 25/03/2025 15:13

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 13:40

Exactly, I agree but it does also affect the children

I think it's so sad that step-parents/long-term partners are so often not respected by the children in situations like this and are treated totally differently than if one of their own parents were left behind.

It seems that even when there had been good relationships during the parents lifetime, as soon as that parent dies the children just want the SP out of the house so they can cash in. It seems so cruel and makes me worry for my own future as a step-parent.

jeaux90 · 25/03/2025 15:13

Just live together then. It doesn’t give him any rights in the uk. Your friend put a clause in to enable her partner to live there otherwise the kids could have turfed them out.

AgathaX · 25/03/2025 15:10

If you really want to marry, and he does too, then why wouldn't you get proper legal advice on protecting your children's inheritance? It is possible, so why not do it?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/03/2025 15:09

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 14:10

The numerous threads here about children who've lost everything or had difficult sotuatuons to unravel because a parent remarried?

And it's not just death, divorce would see DC's pot reduce.

And yes of course there are numerous other things that might affect their inheritance, but they wouldn't amount to their mother giving it away.

Those children have lost everything because their parent didn't do proper succession planning to make sure that they would inherit.

There are lots of things you can to do protect your children, for example, transferring money or assets to them now.

BobbyBiscuits · 25/03/2025 15:09

If you want to 'marry' in a spiritual way you can do all sorts of different ceremonies that relate to you and your partners beliefs. Spiritually or religious or just personally. The marriage doesn't have to be legally binding. If you wish to live together then do so, or keep two homes.

'marriage' to me as a piece of paper isn't important. I wouldn't want to split assets with another or ask them to give me anything of theirs legally if it doesn't work out. But I don't have kids so there's a difference there to many others.

Almostwelsh · 25/03/2025 15:09

ThymeScent · 25/03/2025 15:07

No -make the will after marriage -marriage invalidates previous wills.

You can state the will is made with intent to marry and then the marriage doesn't override it.

Almostwelsh · 25/03/2025 15:08

As previous posters have said, inheritance issues can be sorted by a will made with intent to marry.

The real issue is divorce. Prenups are not binding in England and the risk is you losing up to 50% of your assets, so you are right to be cautious on your own behalf, let alone your children's.

I would just live with him and take legal advice before doing so.

ThymeScent · 25/03/2025 15:07

Luckingfovely · 25/03/2025 13:33

What on earth are you talking about? Of course you can marry. Worried about inheritances etc? Make a watertight will and then get married.

No -make the will after marriage -marriage invalidates previous wills.

Thatcat · 25/03/2025 15:06

JHound · 25/03/2025 13:30

You can marry. You just would rather not.

👆100%
You don’t owe your kids inheritance.
Live your life happily.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2025 15:06

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 14:10

The numerous threads here about children who've lost everything or had difficult sotuatuons to unravel because a parent remarried?

And it's not just death, divorce would see DC's pot reduce.

And yes of course there are numerous other things that might affect their inheritance, but they wouldn't amount to their mother giving it away.

Well, you can marry, but it's probably wise not to just to make things simple for your children and to create no 'expectations' from your partner. And the fact that pre-nups aren't actually legally binding in the UK means that even if you had one there is no guaranteed outcome. People do strange things when there is money involved. A spouse who agrees that your estate goes to your children may do a 180° turn when the death happens and reality sets in that they will walk away with nothing. And yes, a divorce could be devastating to your finances.

Where I live (in the US) pre-nups are legal and enforceable. When my aunt remarried she and her intended (both well to do 'seniors' with grown children) had a legally binding prenup set out 'what's mine is my children's, what's yours is your children's' including their respective family homes. He later sold his family home and invested in improvements to hers so it was amended to give him a life estate. This man would never have been homeless, he had sufficient resources to re-house himself should my aunt die first. Luckily for my cousins he predeceased her because they weren't looking forward to having to wait 10-20 years for a large part of their inheritance. I'm not saying the life estate wasn't fair, just that it would have been an inconvenience to my cousins.

If you feel you want/need 'something', you can always have a 'life commitment' ceremony, in essence a wedding with no legal paperwork.

beAsensible1 · 25/03/2025 15:04

just get a pre nup as well as ring fencing assets for your kids. fork out for a solicitor on the best way to protect assets for your children in the event of death or divorce.

its really not that difficult to get some legal advice on this. youre being a bit bronte about it all

Koalaslippers · 25/03/2025 15:04

Prioritise your happiness over your children's inheritance. Enjoy your life. I'd much rather my mum do this then leave me money.

As others have said there is protection you can put in place.

menopause59 · 25/03/2025 15:03

Your children are adults FGS, do what makes you happy.

Emptyandsad · 25/03/2025 15:01

HoskinsChoice · 25/03/2025 14:56

This is batshit crazy! Do your children know this? I would be devastated if my parents were putting their lives on hold just so I can inherit. Unless you have horrifically grabby children, I am sure seeing you happy is far more important to them than your money.

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