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To be a little bit sad I can't ever marry

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Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 13:29

I didn't think I'd ever want to. I was financially independent with adult DC, a happy single life and very active social life. I couldn't see any benefits to having a man in my life and only risks in marrying one!

Then I met a man who has changed everything. I'll spare you the soppy bits, but he makes me very happy and we spend a lot of time together, at home and travelling.

He's never been married. I know we can't marry, to protect my DC and to prevent things getting complicated for them and he understands that, but I'm sad that we can't.

We cannot even live together without things getting complicated. A friend's mother has recently died leaving her "new" partner of 17 years in the house. She left a will protecting her DC, but giving him the right to stay in the house while he needs it. So the DC are now faced with an indefinitely delayed inheritance and the "agro" of having him living in "their" house. OTOH she'd lived with him for 17 years, presumably she wanted him taken care of, which people here don't seem to understand when they talk about parents' estates.

Anyway, we'll carry on as we are, but it does sometimes seem a shame.

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Swiftie1878 · 27/03/2025 14:22

Turmericcall · 27/03/2025 10:36

Yes, but if you're the one with the assets...

This is crazy. You’ve been told over and over, you CAN protect your assets.
You are choosing not to marry and then asking for sympathy.
Yes, YABU to feel sad about this, because it’s not true. If you choose not to marry, it’s on you, and you are choosing to be sad. Fill your boots.

category12 · 27/03/2025 13:22

Turmericcall · 27/03/2025 10:36

Yes, but if you're the one with the assets...

Have you actually looked into the option to do a will "in contemplation of marriage"?

MissDoubleU · 27/03/2025 11:14

Turmericcall · 27/03/2025 10:36

Yes, but if you're the one with the assets...

Lock the assets in a trust, sign them over to DC now or sell everything and sail into the sunset. You’ve been given a million examples of how and why you’re being ridiculous. If you want to marry, do it. If you want to protect your children’s “Inheritance” first, go right ahead. There are plenty ways to do it.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/03/2025 10:52

Turmericcall · 27/03/2025 10:36

Yes, but if you're the one with the assets...

If you want to choose your assets over the relationship you want because you CBA to do paperwork, then that's entirely on you.

Or, see a financial adviser and a solicitor, take their advice, do the paperwork and do what makes you happy.

Turmericcall · 27/03/2025 10:36

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 27/03/2025 08:39

A PP pointed out that there are disadvantages to not marrying, and they're not negligible. Google it - "unmarried couples generally have fewer legal rights and protections compared to married couples, particularly in matters of property, inheritance, and healthcare decisions."

Yes, but if you're the one with the assets...

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MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 27/03/2025 08:39

A PP pointed out that there are disadvantages to not marrying, and they're not negligible. Google it - "unmarried couples generally have fewer legal rights and protections compared to married couples, particularly in matters of property, inheritance, and healthcare decisions."

bridgetreilly · 26/03/2025 10:39

Literally every penny you spend ‘reduces DCs inheritance’. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t spend it. It’s your life to live now, not theirs to control because of what happens when you’re gone. I really think you are being massively unreasonable not to have the relationship you want, for the sake of possible future complications for them. You can work out what’s fair for them and for DP, get it in writing, and still move in together. I honestly think you are being ridiculous. Ask your children if they would genuinely want you not to have this relationship for the sake of their inheritance. Which, frankly, might end up all being spent on care homes anyway.

Life is for living.

Ohdearrrrrrrrrr · 26/03/2025 10:13

I completely understand OP, this is one reason why I don't ever want to marry (even though I'd love to).

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 26/03/2025 06:40

cherish123 · 25/03/2025 23:03

I think you have a very sensible and mature approach to relationships in that you are putting your DC first by not marrying and that's the right thing to do. Many people don't.

If anything happened to DH or between us that meant we were no longer together, I would never bring another man into DDs life and everything DH and I have worked for would be hers.

But not marrying again, not living with another man, that would be a choice I made. It is a won't not a can't and that's the same for OP. She won't marry or live with this man and she's complaining it's sad that she can't.

She can. She's choosing not to. And it's a perfectly fine choice, the same one I would make. She shouldn't therefore be acting all woe is me like it's being forced on her.

cherish123 · 25/03/2025 23:03

I think you have a very sensible and mature approach to relationships in that you are putting your DC first by not marrying and that's the right thing to do. Many people don't.

TempestTost · 25/03/2025 23:00

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 13:29

I didn't think I'd ever want to. I was financially independent with adult DC, a happy single life and very active social life. I couldn't see any benefits to having a man in my life and only risks in marrying one!

Then I met a man who has changed everything. I'll spare you the soppy bits, but he makes me very happy and we spend a lot of time together, at home and travelling.

He's never been married. I know we can't marry, to protect my DC and to prevent things getting complicated for them and he understands that, but I'm sad that we can't.

We cannot even live together without things getting complicated. A friend's mother has recently died leaving her "new" partner of 17 years in the house. She left a will protecting her DC, but giving him the right to stay in the house while he needs it. So the DC are now faced with an indefinitely delayed inheritance and the "agro" of having him living in "their" house. OTOH she'd lived with him for 17 years, presumably she wanted him taken care of, which people here don't seem to understand when they talk about parents' estates.

Anyway, we'll carry on as we are, but it does sometimes seem a shame.

Your friend and her siblings sound like jerks.

ColourBlueColourPurple · 25/03/2025 21:57

BrownieBlondie01 · 25/03/2025 15:20

But OP is talking about adult children? Should she really be on the hook for their 'financial wellbeing' ie preserving their inheritance ahead of her own wishes, while she's still very much alive??

Seems wrong to me.

She probably has to worry less about their security now that they're adults but I'd be damned if remarrying meant my childrens (adult or otherwise) inheritance was going to.be affected

Staceysmum2025 · 25/03/2025 21:42

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 20:07

How long do you think insurers will continue to insure you at that level and how much are you prepared to pay for it as you age?

So I took out the policy when I was 40 and I have calculated that over the lifetime of the policy. I will pay £34,000 for £1 million worth of cover. That doesn’t increase within inflation so it’s 1 million in today’s money.
The amount that I pay doesn’t change as I age so it’s not a case of the insurers making any decisions they are as committed as I am and as long as I make the insurance policy payments the cover remains in place no matter what happens to me cancer strokes anything else that might come along but doesn’t finish me off they have to continue to pay out.
But equally the kids are building their own assets at the same time so whatever it equates to whether it’s a public lunch or a house deposit it’s instantaneous.

Staceysmum2025 · 25/03/2025 21:40

Cosyblankets · 25/03/2025 19:59

Is there an upper age limit on that policy?

I’m not sure actually. I think it covers me until I’m 85 and don’t get me wrong. It’s expensive and if I die at 86 the whole thing has been in vain but that seems unlikely.

HeyThereDelila · 25/03/2025 21:36

YABU and being ridiculous. Get married and enjoy your life.

See an excellent solicitor beforehand, draw up a watertight will and put your house or assets in a trust for your DC.

The only reason not to do it is if he’s genuinely destitute and you’re very wealthy, but even then there are workarounds. If you’re sure he’s not a free loader just enjoy yourself and marry.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/03/2025 21:31

category12 · 25/03/2025 19:40

It's both parents money, they presumably built up the wealth as a couple and lived & worked together to create a home and life.

If the one who died earlier wanted their children to get their half, they would/should have written a will for that. If they didn't and it went to their widow(er) alone then, who are you or the kids to say that wasn't what they wanted? It's not reasonable to expect the survivor to live on alone, only concerned about preserving money for the children, living half a life to do so.

And it's not "some random" person, it's someone their widow(er) chooses to spend the next part of their lives with, in love and companionship. Someone who brings the person they loved new happiness.

So what you're saying is that the first parent to die should have not left it all to their spouse in case they went on to remarry and didn't do enough to protect their children.

Well, yes. But that's precisely what a lot of people don't think to do.

In France the law requires you to do this, because it considers that sideways disinheritance is unfair. It does mean you can't disinherit an estranged child, but no system is perfect.

ThisIcyHare · 25/03/2025 20:37

You can marry for goodness sake, just get a solicitor and a concrete plan for your assets that protects who/what you want it to. It’s not that hard, drama queen!

MissDoubleU · 25/03/2025 20:35

Just have a wedding/commitment ceremony without the legal document. Husband and wife in name only, on your terms. Legally “partners” but to you both it is a marriage on your own terms. Outlines those terms beforehand, so you know what you’re agreeing to. Romantic and personal and not involving the government.

Life is exactly what you make of it. If you want something there is always a way for you to make it your own.

Abitofalark · 25/03/2025 20:31

Uricon2 · 25/03/2025 19:21

You could tie this up so you made sure your children inherited as you want, even if "delayed" because he's allowed to stay in the house. You are not Abelard and Heloise and this "sadness" is self indulgent IMHO.

Nor Pyramus and Thisbe.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/03/2025 20:24

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 20:09

Yes, that's where we are but if you remarry or build a new life with someone else, wouldn't you expect to want to leave them secure/comfortable too?

Well it depends on the situation you're both in.

If you're both financially independent, then write wills so that everything goes to the people you want it to (you, your DC and him whoever he wants, but not you).

If he isn't financially independent, then think about what is best for everyone. Could you split what's left in your will? You could put your home into Tenants in Common, but with new husband only having a 10% (or whatever you want) share. If you die first, your share goes into trust for DC but new husband still has the home to live in.

Pensions etc you could keep to yourselves. Or leave the house to the kids and pensions to new husband.

You'll find that your kids are much more worried about mum being happy in her life than whether she has any money left to leave them. So do what is best for your life not what's going to be better for others after you die.

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 20:23

Iwannakeepondancing · 25/03/2025 20:20

Being married IMO means nothing anyway!

Well it doesn't. If it didn't I wouldn't have any of these concerns 🤣

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Iwannakeepondancing · 25/03/2025 20:20

Being married IMO means nothing anyway!

YankSplaining · 25/03/2025 20:18

I spent around a dozen years following the legal battles for same-sex marriage in the UK and the US. Before laws changed, those were couples who really and truly could never marry. You, on the other hand, just don’t want to deal with sorting out some complications about wills and inheritance.

Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 20:09

Whoarethoseguys · 25/03/2025 20:06

My husband and I have mirror wills that leaves everything to each other, if we die together it goes to our children.
It is on the understanding that whoever is left will leave everything left to our children. We built up the house and savings together. So it is only right that our children should inherit not someone else even if that someone else is a second wife or husband.

Yes, that's where we are but if you remarry or build a new life with someone else, wouldn't you expect to want to leave them secure/comfortable too?

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Turmericcall · 25/03/2025 20:07

Staceysmum2025 · 25/03/2025 18:28

The simplest thing today is to insure yourself up to the hilt.
My children get 1,000,000 to split between themselves for the life Insurance alone and then anything else is a pure bonus so they won’t care about the house by that point. They’ll take their cash which will be paid out within 30 days of the death certificate assuming there’s no foul play.

Liquid assets are best when it comes to inheritance

How long do you think insurers will continue to insure you at that level and how much are you prepared to pay for it as you age?

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