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Of course they do if the ex is not covering their share fair share.

Well, that's nice, but I live in the real world and if I can do something relatively simple to avoid making my teenager an object of ridicule, I will.

We don't need to learn all lessons the hard way.

And it's not merely "wearing glasses". Perhaps you have no idea quite how hideous high prescription lenses look without any thinning. Most people have never seen them.

I'd rather teach my kids that anyone who was shallow enough to judge someone for needing to wear glasses wasn't worth knowing or engaging with.

No, that's not what I said at all.

But if I had the money to pay for that, I would. And I would consider it a normal part of the cost of raising my children. The same way dental treatment is part of the cost of raising my children, regardless of the fact that some people can't afford dental treatment.

If you can afford to pay for these things but you choose not to and tell your child to save their pocket money, you are telling them they're only worth the cheapest and nastiest of everything though.

So people who can't afford fhe £600 for these glasses are telling their children that that they're only worth the cheapest and nastiest of everything?!
Really?! Ouch!

Yes it is cosmetic, and if my children have the misfortune to be as myopic as I am when they are teenagers, I will gladly spend the extra money rather than let them endure their teenage years peering through budget frames with lenses as thick as the bottoms of glass coke bottles which make their eyes appear unnaturally large.

Because I love my children and I recognise that there is a middle ground between raising spoilt brats and making your children feel that they're only worth the cheapest and nastiest of everything, which I don't think is good for their self esteem.

Have you bought glasses recently?! Mine were £600. Non-branded frames.

Is lens thinning not just cosmetic?

My glasses have been 100s of pounds since my teens. The frames are a tiny bit of the cost, I have a high prescription.

I don't think people are talking about clothes.

As a glasses wearer myself, it's not designer frames that are expensive, but lens thinning if you have very poor eyesight.

£400 for glasses?! There's so many online glasses retailers now, I bought 3 pairs for £6.99 each, lenses included!

Maybe come back when your child is 18 and see if you still think these things, rather than preaching at people who have been there, done it and got the T-shirt from your perspective of having raised a child for five whole years
I've been there, single mum, never got a penny in maintenance and my kids have long learn that they don't get fancy trainers and expensive glasses unless they pay for them. I have never in my life spent more than £150 on a pair of glasses and that's with all the adds on. Asda do 2 pairs under £100.

I totally get the nrps who look forward to stoping paying for unnecessary luxuries for their kids when it doesn't align with their own principles.

I've had 3 of them . All over 18 now Youngest is 21. I've never paid for designer glasses or expensive trainers either.

None of the kids have worried about brands that much. My DDs tend to buy supermarket clothes and DS buys all weird and wonderful things to wear from bootsales and charity shops

I'm not riding any hobby horse. I'm not sure what point you were trying to make.

We cannot mandate that parents fund their children in to adulthood. If one or both parents choose to, that's very nice of them.

Some kids are just not intersted in expensive clothes and shoes,my 18 year old isnt.

As I said FURTHER education. Not higher.

But these things can only state minimum requirements.
You are not legally obliged to provide for another adult.
At 18 you can get a job that pays enough to feed and clothe you. By 19 dd2 had left home and was renting a house with her boyfriend.

You missed my point. But since you have a hobby horse to ride, and I have dinner to cook, I will leave it there.

I have never spent more than £50 on a pair of trainers for myself. Glasses do not cost £350 unless he wanted a very fancy frame.

I can't speak for what you spend on your son, but I have done the comparisons on a 2 bed vs a 3 bed, therefore an extra bedroom to accommodate DD, and the difference was £100 a month in mortgage. It isn't logical to work out the total cost over the whole mortgage because at the end of it the £50k in equity is yours, not your DSs.

Maybe come back when your child is 18 and see if you still think these things, rather than preaching at people who have been there, done it and got the T-shirt from your perspective of having raised a child for five whole years.

They really do make you sick.
I spent the day before getting her hair blow dried and cut, nails and fake tan, running around the shops trying to find an emergency last minute pair of shoes to match the change of outfit which luckily had been borrowed. I spent over £100 on the official photographs.
Naturally, I paid for the gown hire.
He turns up with an hour to go buys everybody a drink like he’s the Lord of the manner and sat there like a performing seal in the front row.
The student loans have been calculated on both he and his wife’s income so she got sod all. 30 grand it cost me in total.
And he has the cheek to overpay into his pension to minimise his liability towards the little one.
Bring back the stocks

As I said, you’re in for a shock. Pocket money being spent to be able see ? Really ?

So there you go straight away there’s another hundred pounds to add onto your 650
Kids do put the heating on when you’re not in the house. And forget to turn it off.
In my area, the jump is 50 grand per bedroom.
You’re not talking about a two bedroom place to a three bedroom place you’re talking about a one bedroom place to potentially as a three bedroom place. If it was just me, I’d be living in the house that I paid £49,000 for many moons ago and I would’ve paid it off tenfold by now.

The non-resident parent doesn’t even have a bedroom for the children at his shag pad.
He doesn’t have to wash their clothes costing electricity. He doesn’t have to wash their bedding costing electricity. Petrol to and from School is at least £200 a month it’s all of the little things that add up. Don’t even get me started on the loss of wages and the number of promotions that I’ve turned down over the years because quite simply I couldn’t do it. And be a present parent. I did try it went horribly wrong.
I think you’re a bit naive with a five-year-old to be blunt.

Staceysmum2025 I think we’ve almost written the same thing!!

I dont disagree if the young person goes onto higher education. If they work then rent should be paid.
My eldest will graduate this year, she’s lived at home during her degree and I have provided for her alongside her part time job. My ex has contributed not even a meal once a month never mind a few pounds towards lunch or support with her travel. He’ll be there no doubt in graduation day gushing on Facebook and getting his likes about what a great dad he is and in reality he deserves none of it as he’s put nothing in.
So yes I believe he should be liable for maintenance as she’s in higher education and I’m expected to top her up but he gets to walk away financially