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To think food choices aren't everything regarding longevity?

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ThePigandPear · 24/03/2025 20:45

I see a lot of food threads here and on other websites where people clash over what constitutes healthy foods, upf, etc.
I have a good diet and would like to remain fit, but I get the feeling that a lot of people choose to obsess over food because it is something they think they can control in a very uncertain world.

One person will suggest obesity has risen in tow with ultra processed foods.
Another will say "no! it's seed oils, low fat, sugar and so on!".
But few people suggest increasing car use, or having become far more sedentary, since these are lifestyle factors that many don't feel they have control over.
It is simpler to blame food.

So a healthy diet is very important, but what about sleep quality, stress, social connection, mental health and activity? A lot of those are very complicated and can't be as easily fixed.
I recall thinking this after reading about the famous Blue Zones, that the elder population were out playing tennis and gardening with company most days. However, the Blue Zones centenarians have been more recently debunked...

Sadly I have known a few people with very healthy lifestyle's and diets become ill or disabled, and a few who have died young. And there are always examples of that chain smoking great uncle who lived to 104 on beer, bacon and lard.

Good, healthy food is one thing we can make an impact with, but it is only a small part of the story, for me. The healthiest older people I have known have been very active (a LOT of walking), from hiking to just getting around on foot. They have also kept a social life outside of their home, and oddly enough, been single!
This is only from my own experience of course.
My mum was the very image of yoga, healthy eating, mediation, yet still suffered some debilitating health issues that could not be controlled by lifestyle, and became somewhat reclusive and sedentary in her old age as she had lost her community links. Family members who have got out there and kept doing stuff did seem to live much longer lives, regardless some bad habits (luck permitting).

I just don't think some good bread with peanut butter for brekkie is going to make a massive difference, or the occasional jar of supermarket sauce, unless I am piping adulterated shit down my throat 24-7.

OP posts:
phlebasconsidered · 24/03/2025 21:00

My great gran lived to102,my gran till 98. Diet of porridge for breakfast, bread, cheese, honey and salad/greens/ whatever leftover stuff for lunch and either stews or boiled meat, and a heck.of a lot of carbs with either potatoes or dumplings. My great gran didn't even have a fridge, just a larder with a meat safe. She used to cook meat that would be thrown away now. Lots of cheap cuts. Even tripe, brain, trotters, tongue. Both of them smoked and drank.
They were always on the go though, gardening and growing veg, cleaning as well as working. Up by 5am. I used to stay at my great grans and she'd have me herding geese by 6am, sortingthe garden snd starching washing by 7. She lived that long because she was furious at not having had a washing machine for most of her life, I sometimes think. So much time, washing!

mushroomshroom · 24/03/2025 20:57

I think it's scary that so many seem to think all cancers/illnesses are lifestyle related. I know very healthy people who have had heart problems, cancer, lung issues, high blood pressure etc.

I think we massively overlook the impact of stress on one's health and the importance of social interaction.

AquaPeer · 24/03/2025 20:52

Also I think it brings out our desire to be superior and criticise each other rather than accepting that we have little control over modern life.

and also the preachers never acknowledge how bloody healthy we are nowadays. It wasn’t long ago everyone had heart attacks from smoking and fried foods. Or died in industrial accidents or from asbestos poisoning. Sitting here working out how to reduce our chance of cancer by 0.035% through blueberries is a luxury of health, wealth and longevity

AquaPeer · 24/03/2025 20:49

I totally agree OP. Total lack of awareness of our generations “weightwatchers” (keto, paleo etc) demonising carbs and whole grains, bizarre conversation about UFPS with no value, weird unrealistic ideas about the power of diet.

the worst part is, 99% of the preachers stick to these diets for a few months then give up, quietly going back to their crossiants and Diet Coke.