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AIBU to say no to DS’s bf staying here after surgery?

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Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 20:34

DS (22) only works part time and his bf (18) at uni just had emergency surgery for ruptured appendix. Now DS wants him to stay here while he recovers cos he says his uni halls are too noisy and he can’t go to his family cos of “family issues” (not my problem tbh). But I already said he’s not allowed here cos of his past behaviour. Him and DS been on/off for about a year and I don’t like him. He smokes weed (maybe other drugs too), smashed DS’s phone, turned up here blind drunk and woke the whole house up arguing with DS when DS told him to be quiet, and even moaned about my cooking like he’s in a restaurant!! I’ve got younger DC here too and I’m a single mum, don’t need this stress.

DS is saying it’s not like he’s going out partying but I just don’t trust him. AIBU to say no??

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chemteach78 · 25/03/2025 06:16

Absolutely not. If you didn’t have younger children then perhaps a discussion could be had. But you do and this is not a suitable person to have around them.

Your update about the reason for DS staying in halls not working is that noone to look after BF when he’s at work is telling. He volunteering you for that role. This is not your responsibility.

Offer to get him a decent blow up mattress to stay in halls. If round the clock care is needed he may need to take some annual leave or make contact with someone in BF family, not assume you will do it.

HomeTheatreSystem · 25/03/2025 06:08

Grey rock, no on repeat. You need to prioritise the needs of your younger kids over the personal desires of a poorly behaved person who you have very good reason not to trust.

Duolingod · 25/03/2025 05:45

OP - DS is doing a lot of explaining this boys behaviour. What’s the story with his own parents?

Almostapt · 25/03/2025 04:34

I can't edit, but I'm an idiot as this was clearly suggested on the first page. That'll teach me not to read the whole thread.

Almostapt · 25/03/2025 04:26

Sorry I haven't read the full thread so not sure if it's been suggested (have read all the OP's posts though)...

Could a possible solution be for them to get an Airbnb or something for a few weeks? I can see why you wouldn't want him in your house, but I can also see your son's side that he's going to need some support after major surgery

fourelementary · 25/03/2025 03:58

SinnerBoy · 24/03/2025 23:01

fourelementary · Today 20:41

Awww bless him...

I thought you were being ironic..

No, fuck him, not bless him. He's a spoilt, abusive, aggressive drunk. His own family can take care of him. He sounds really nasty and just because he's young and sick, it does mean that the OP has to step in.

He can rest up in halls, after they discharge him.

Nope. I was sorry for him as he’s an 18 year old whose example of awful behaviour was a drunken disruption which - whilst annoying- is hardly indicative of abusive behaviour aged 17!! Even the son is saying the phone being smashed was a mistake- and maybe when things have been dramatic between them son (who sounds very young for 21/22) has exaggerated to affect. I just think so many mums replying without compassion for a young lad is surprising and a bit of a shock tbh. When my eldest was young we had at least two of his friends stay with us for extended periods when things went hairy at home for them. One even had his birthday here as his mum had a new BF and wasn’t interested in parenting. He didn’t get his clothes washed and smelt bad… he stayed here for a few months before moving in with his dad. Some people don’t have good role models growing up and I just feel some compassion instead of judgement for a 18 year old is due.
On another thread where a 17 year old has gone for one night and feels unwell away from home, numerous people are agreeing that fetching her home is the right thing to do. But this young lad had emergency surgery and his family haven’t come for him… yet it’s fine to just say some Halls of residence representative can take care of him? 🤦🏻‍♀️

TwoShades1 · 25/03/2025 03:47

Given the circumstances and background I don’t think it’s suitable for him so stay with you. I think under different circumstances with a better history, it would be a nice thing to do, and a great way to support a young person. But I think it’s best if he returns to uni halls or family (if possible) to recover. If possible maybe facilitate you son to visit him more or send home basic food/supplies so he doesn’t need to go to the shops. I think that’s as far as my kindness would go with this.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 25/03/2025 03:41

No chance. He’s blown it with you!

healthybychristmas · 25/03/2025 03:06

I think the bf is very manipulative and arrogant and I certainly wouldn't want him around if he wasn't well!

healthybychristmas · 25/03/2025 03:06

I think the bf is very manipulative and arrogant and I certainly wouldn't want him around if he wasn't well!

TwinklyNight · 25/03/2025 02:02

Nope. Just because he had a surgery doesn't mean he can use you for a convalescent facility.

DoctorDoctor · 25/03/2025 00:20

Antonania · 24/03/2025 23:56

Don't get into a debate on what he has or hasn't done.

He is properly ill and will need to be properly looked after, which you are not in any position to do (I assume!) and neither is your son. Emergency surgery can leave you feeling steamrollered. The hospital might not discharge him until he can show there's someone there to look after him. I would expect uni to make sure he goes home to his parents TBH. I don't know what the protocol is for those who can't but I'm fairly sure it doesn't all hinge on his boyfriend's mum taking up the slack.

The hospital might not discharge him until he can show there's someone there to look after him. I would expect uni to make sure he goes home to his parents TBH

Universities do have responsibilities to their students, but not to this extent. This young man is 18 and a legal adult. He is expected to organise his own after care, and if the hospital were contacting anyone it would be his next of kin - they are the ones who would be asked to take responsibility for him. His boyfriend's mother is way down the list, and he should be looking at his own behaviour to understand why there isn't a queue of people offering to look after him in recovery.

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 25/03/2025 00:19

So, your son thinks YOU are going to look after this boy while he is at work?

Otherwise, he'd be fine with staying with him at Uni.

You need to keep on saying no.

Delphiniumandlupins · 25/03/2025 00:11

When your DS has his own home he can choose who lives there or visits. As an adult, if he's contributing to household costs, he can have some input. But he doesn't overrule you and you have a duty to your younger DC. If his bf realises that he has no friends and few options of places to go he might think about being nicer to people.

Antonania · 24/03/2025 23:56

Don't get into a debate on what he has or hasn't done.

He is properly ill and will need to be properly looked after, which you are not in any position to do (I assume!) and neither is your son. Emergency surgery can leave you feeling steamrollered. The hospital might not discharge him until he can show there's someone there to look after him. I would expect uni to make sure he goes home to his parents TBH. I don't know what the protocol is for those who can't but I'm fairly sure it doesn't all hinge on his boyfriend's mum taking up the slack.

Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 23:45

Ponoka7 · 24/03/2025 23:34

He brought drama because he was a 17 year old in a relationship with an adult. Does your DS recognise the age difference? I'm of the opinion that people of the boyfriends ahe shouldn't be in serious relationships. Perhaps this period of separation will do them good. I'd steer my adult child away from sex with under 18's, going forward.

I haven’t posted about this before. The age gap is complicated cos they met online, bf was living 2.5hrs away and lied to DS saying he was 18 when he wasn’t. DS was confused and upset cos he lied but then bf told DS he didn’t think he’d want to talk to him anymore and kept messaging him non stop after DS asked for space. I told DS to block him at the time but he didn’t cos he felt they got on really well. It’s clear bf has his own issues. I was cautious when I first met him but he seemed lovely and respectful until he moved here for uni and I started seeing him more often. He’s turning 19 in a few weeks, so their age gap is just over 3 years.

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Dweetfidilove · 24/03/2025 23:44

Your son is being unreasonable and rather entitled, and that's likely in the knowledge that you're terrified of losing him.

He's badgering you into taking caring for his boyfriend at the expense of his siblings. That also makes him rather selfish and self-centered. Why doesn't he go and badgering his father, I wonder? It always seems to be mothers who bear the brunt of all this foolishness.
Tell him to catch a grip, because you're not discussing it further.

My parents entertained no entitled bs from me or my siblings, and this is not even a negotiation we would dream of bringing to them. We had boundaries, and all of us,the oldest of whom is 51; have a good relationship with our parents.

You shouldn't be tolerating dysfunction and manipulation to maintain a relationship with your son. It's unfair to you and more so to your other children. It's your job to protect them from his volatile partner/relationship.

CalleOcho · 24/03/2025 23:41

fourelementary · 24/03/2025 20:41

Awww bless him, I actually think at 18 he’s still young and I’d feel a bit of compassion. By all means set boundaries and expectations, but perhaps showing him this kindness could help make him also behave a little nicer and see the error of his ways as I’m assuming they’re on rather than off right now and perhaps he’s not been modelled the right ways to behave in life. And I hate the thought of someone being unwell and having no one.

He isn’t the OP’s responsibility.

It’s not the OP’s responsibility to help him “see the error of his ways”. Ffs why is it always a woman’s responsibility for the behaviour of a man?

His family probably don’t want home because of his behaviour and attitude.

@Atmywitsend30 He’s 18. If your DS wants to help him so much with recovery then your DS should stay with him in his uni accommodation or book a week in a hotel.

Ponoka7 · 24/03/2025 23:34

Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 23:21

I’ll keep telling him no, I’d be happy for him to stay if he didn’t bring so much drama and I just don’t like or trust him. Honestly, I’ll be glad when DS breaks up with him for good. But DS says they just get each other so I don’t think that’ll be for a while. DS does have other friends but they’re not close and he’d rather stay at home if he’s not out with bf. I don’t think bf is controlling him tho, cos he’s the same way when they’ve broken up and was like that before they even met.

He brought drama because he was a 17 year old in a relationship with an adult. Does your DS recognise the age difference? I'm of the opinion that people of the boyfriends ahe shouldn't be in serious relationships. Perhaps this period of separation will do them good. I'd steer my adult child away from sex with under 18's, going forward.

BunnyRuddington · 24/03/2025 23:28

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 24/03/2025 23:14

You won't lose him unless he decides to use this manipulation technique any time you say "no" to him. Since he is manipulating you now, I assume he does it every single time you say "no". That's a great way for him to never have to grow up and stand on two feet. 🙄
Have you posted about your DS and this bf before?

The relationship does sound familiar doesn’t it?

thankyounextplease · 24/03/2025 23:28

Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 22:44

I’ve told DS the uni should be able to help him, but he’s not having any of it. He says if I let him stay, it’ll show I care and that I’m being supportive. It’s not just DS though, I’ve got my younger DC to think about too but he’s not listening. DS also said if he stays with him in the uni halls, he’ll be alone when he’s working and he doesn’t think that’s right in case bf needs something or something happens. DS worries about things like this when others are ill. He’s now gone out in a huff, don’t know what to do anymore as I don’t want to lose him but he’s being so stubborn!

There will be a hall warden or whatever they call that role there, 24/7, if he needs anything. They are trained to deal with these types of things and also have access to a bunch of useful contacts to help. Which is more than he would get at home with you.

It sounds like he's just trying to manipulate you.

Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 23:27

I don’t give into him constantly, DS is usually respectful and listens when I tell him no. So I’m starting to think maybe bf is manipulating him a bit. This is DS’s first proper relationship so I’m really struggling to navigate it, especially since he’s also an adult now. It’s hard to know how much to step in, but I just don’t feel right about him being with someone like this.

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Reugny · 24/03/2025 23:27

Keep saying "No".

If the bf was decent then others in his halls, the bf's friends and even your DS's friends would take turns to look after him when your DS was at work.

The fact that no-one else is willing to speaks volumes...

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 24/03/2025 23:22

fourelementary · 24/03/2025 22:03

Okay so it looks like I’m the only one either compassion here… but an emergency ruptured appendix is a lot worse than a routine appendectomy FWIW to the pp who said she was fine after her surgery.

Also, the OP only says she thinks he take drugs other than weed. “Maybe other drugs too”..: and when he was loud, he was drunk… which again isn’t great but equally as a 17/18 year old isn’t exactly the crime of the century or abusive ffs. People are clearly either parents of young kids who haven’t parented teens, or older than that who’ve forgotten the teen years!

OP mentions that he and her son are socially awkward so perhaps he should really be given the chance to show he can behave well, rather than being judged on the basis of behaviour when drunk… he’s only 18 FFS

Ive done a good enough job that I trust my own kid has been raised well enough to make good relationship choices- and that has meant finding the good side of their partners even when I haven’t felt like they’re the right one for them or when their behaviours have been less than ideal. Especially when young. As we all know teenagers are developing until their twenties… I would offer the boyfriend a place to stay and show him compassion, and expect respect in return.

FFS! He HAS his own family! Let him work out his issues with them while he recovers.
The OP has young children to care about and want to protect. Her DS is being self-centered and manipulative.

Or, feel free to host him yourself.

Atmywitsend30 · 24/03/2025 23:21

I’ll keep telling him no, I’d be happy for him to stay if he didn’t bring so much drama and I just don’t like or trust him. Honestly, I’ll be glad when DS breaks up with him for good. But DS says they just get each other so I don’t think that’ll be for a while. DS does have other friends but they’re not close and he’d rather stay at home if he’s not out with bf. I don’t think bf is controlling him tho, cos he’s the same way when they’ve broken up and was like that before they even met.

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