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2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:10

We took home 3x 7 month old kittens a month ago from a rescue. We previously had an mature adult cat. We didn't do enough research and totally underestimated the impact of 3x kittens.

I keep having mental wobbles and thinking, "I can't do this." Each time I fall into a bit of depression but eventually come out of it, find a solution to whatever the new challenge is and tell myself, "nope, cats are a commitment".

My husband is doing and saying the same out loud. We're both prone to depression, but his is medicated. However, over the weekend, my husband broke down to his mum about finding it all really hard and not being able to cope. He then admitted to me that he now dreads coming home after work.

The things we're finding hard are:

  1. One of the kittens has also had illness during this time, which required trips to a vet far away, which has been an added stress. He's now on the mend.

  2. The kittens have destroyed a lot of parts of the house. Not from boredom scratching (they have so many toys including puzzle ones, scratching posts, I try to do interactive play with them when I can). The damage occurs just from them playing together. It's sweet to watch, they're bonded littermates, but through simply playing chase and pounce with each other, they've destroyed furniture and curtains. I started to price up buying replacements for the damaged stuff over the weekend, got beyond £1K, then stopped and just cried.

To minimise the destruction we have removed all curtains, rugs, an armchair (replaced it with a massive cat tree), and removed all ornaments.

Yesterday evening, my husband sat down next to me in the living room and said, "the room is cold and echoe-y. I don't like the lack of privacy. I'm going to my office." Five minutes later, he then left the office as it's so overcrowded with our ornaments (it's the only cat free room we can reasonably have, as our kids forget to shut the other doors). He says our house doesn't feel like our house anymore, it feels like a cattery with people inserted into it.

I asked an online cat forum and they recommended Jackson Galaxy. I watched his videos this morning and he said each cat just need 30-45 minutes strenuous play a day. Individual play needed as some cats dominate the play and prevent others getting attention. So for three cats that's 2 hours and 15 minutes play a day. I've managed 15 minutes and then ten minutes play with all three cats so far today, not done separate play yet. They mostly wanted to play chase and pounce with each other.

  1. The rest of my life has gone out of the window. I was told at the beginning of the year that I needed to lose weight as my heart health is bad (my dad died young of heart disease so it's a big worry for me). I started a strict diet and exercise routine and lost some weight. This all stopped with the cats, the weight is back on and I'm now stress eating again, although trying not to.

  2. Our kids (7 and 9), who are both diagnosed ND or likely ND, recently told me that I never pay attention to the anymore. I've tried to encourage them to join with me in playing with the cats, which occasionally they do and to be fair my 7 year old helped me build a new cat tree for them over the weekend, but mostly they don't want to and ask "can't we do something else?" They're also overwhelmed by the smell and mess, and chose to play in rooms away from the kitchen-diner, where the cats are based. I asked on a parenting ND children forum, and most people said pets helped their ND kids.

  3. The house cleaning has gone out of the window, which is another stresser for my husband. He likes a clean, immaculate house, which I never fully achieved, but I used to get close to. Now, there's food, litter and cat toys in lots of places. He's also likely ND and finds it overwhelming. My husband works FT, I work PT (3-6 hours a week, depending on need), so housework falls on me. He is picking up more household chores without me asking, but I can see it's adding to his stress levels.

  4. I made some pin money selling secondhand baby clothes, which had the bonus of decluttering the house and helping my husband's anxiety levels. That has also gone by the wayside.

  5. I keep forgetting to do stuff. I forgot to get my kid's uniform washed in time for today. I forgot we'd run out of food so couldn't do my son's packed lunch. I forgot the stuff my daughter needed for Brownies. My brain can't seem to remember the previous emotional load.

I can't do it all and at the moment, the cats take up most of my time. I'm suspected to have ADHD alongside depression, so it's an effort for me to focus on a task. Maybe if I could be more productive, then it would be easier. But it's beginning to feel like there isn't enough hours in the day.

So, at the moment I'm saying, lets keep going with the kittens, they'll grow out of it in a year or so, we can do this. But the rest of my family aren't feeling it and are either depressed (my husband) or highly strung (my kids - who pick up on their parents not being ok mentally by becoming more disruptive, fighting more, shouting and screaming more - so I'm trying to manage their behaviours on top of everything else).

My MIL says "get rid of the cats, your and your family's mental health is more important".

Have I made the wrong choice?

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 24/03/2025 18:29

A family with so many people with additional needs is really not conductive for owning high need pets op, you all need a low demand lifestyle and if your husband is crying and children being ignored then you need to rehome responsibly.

faerietales · 24/03/2025 17:24

I would let them out now - there's no logic to waiting 6-8 weeks.

helpfulperson · 24/03/2025 17:15

I agree it will be a game changer when they start going out.

I got a father and son pair in covid. The son was 7 months old and there were a few times before he started going out I'd have returned him to the rescue without a backwards glance. He was wild and wanted attention 24/7.

I would suggest giving it four weeks - two more inside and then 2 going out. And then decide if you are able to keep them.

WeeOrcadian · 24/03/2025 17:10

Kindly, is there a reason why YOU aren't getting help l medication for your depression?

stormsandsunshine · 24/03/2025 17:06

Sunshineandrainbow · 24/03/2025 16:56

I thought that but in first post it states op has had kittens a month.

Which would be quite soon to let them out, but keeping them in for 6-7 months is very extreme!

Christwosheds · 24/03/2025 17:02

You are not a kitten family. I question whether any pet is a good idea really , if your DH likes the house to be immaculate and you are all struggling with the chaos of kittens. I am baffled by this as all kittens are crazy , they all run around and playfully climb curtains etc, moving out all your furniture seems a very extreme reaction, did you not know what kittens are like ?
I think you need a pet free life, but if you really want a cat, then a single middle aged cat. But really all pets bring some level of chaos and mess.

Sunshineandrainbow · 24/03/2025 16:56

stormsandsunshine · 24/03/2025 16:53

OP - an elderly family friend has a bonkers kitten - wild and destructive. He calmed right down when she started letting him out and is apparently fine now.

Are you sure the rescue didn’t mean wait until they are 6-7 months old (as opposed to wait for 6-7 months after you have adopted them)? Cats do not take 7 months to get used to a new house - they normally say the 3-3-3 rule (ie they are fully settled in after 3 months). I would start letting them out now and see if that helps.

I thought that but in first post it states op has had kittens a month.

Sunshineandrainbow · 24/03/2025 16:54

Sounds like really hard work for you.

I would let them out, if you have had them for a month now. Let them out hungry and they will want to come back for food.
Get them used to smells in the garden so they know where to return too. I think this will make the world of difference to you.
Some people suggest butter on their paws when you let them out so they lick off the scent.

Any photos 😍

stormsandsunshine · 24/03/2025 16:53

OP - an elderly family friend has a bonkers kitten - wild and destructive. He calmed right down when she started letting him out and is apparently fine now.

Are you sure the rescue didn’t mean wait until they are 6-7 months old (as opposed to wait for 6-7 months after you have adopted them)? Cats do not take 7 months to get used to a new house - they normally say the 3-3-3 rule (ie they are fully settled in after 3 months). I would start letting them out now and see if that helps.

TheBlueRobin · 24/03/2025 16:44

I adopted two six month old bonded kittens last year. I think the first few weeks was hard with adapting but then it was... fine? They go outside for a few hours and occasional zoomies in the house, mainly in the morning or evening. In a year of having them, we've had one broken lamp, some scratched chairs and rugs but I think we've got off lightly.

Changing the litter is a pain and the 6am wake up calls but on the whole they are very low maintenance. Unless they are feral I'm not sure how they're taking over your household? I say that I live in a very small house.

I feel like you've got a lot going on anyway? Maybe you need to look at techniques or ways to manage and break down tasks that need doing into more manageable chunks? I think putting all the focus on the cats is masking other issues.

ThinWomansBrain · 24/03/2025 16:30

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:53

Spayed at 6-8 weeks?

The OP states they were 7 months when adopted - if it was a reputable rescue organisation presumably they were spayed before the adoption.
This appears to be 6-8 weeks being in their new home before letting them outside.

As the plan is for them to be outside cats, I'd let them go out in the garden for short periods now - but not full autonomy with a cat flap yet.

Octavia64 · 24/03/2025 16:12

I have three cars which I got as kittens (all together).

They are quite intense.

if your kittens are chipped and vaccinated and spayed I would consider giving th some supervised outside time.

it will significantly reduce the destructive behaviour.

that’s if you want to keep them.

Mumofoneandone · 24/03/2025 16:04

Kittens can be lively.......the time scale the rescue centre have suggested for keeping the cats in seems excessive.
Have always had kittens and never kept them in that long - maybe a few weeks, but totally unrealistic for 6-8 weeks! Maybe get a second opinion.
Once they can run around outside, it will make a massive difference to your relationship with them.

stayathomer · 24/03/2025 16:03

Op it gets much easier as they get older, our cat was a crazy kitten but now at only 4 is much more sedentary. I would say personally I think most people (us included) shouldn’t have animals, I think there’s people who make them their everything, they incorporate the animal into their day, but not as a ‘I need to make time’. To be honest I’d consider rehoming , it just sounds like there’s a lot of things you all need to make time for x

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/03/2025 15:47

singlewhitetrashheap · 24/03/2025 15:22

DO NOT let the kittens out. Cats are NOT part of the ecosystem and actively cause damage to it, they're an invasive species. I love cats, but they are destructive to nature, and unfortunately your house in this case, but you NEED to keep them indoors.

You made this choice and you have to live with it now.

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

This really isn't the thread to tell the OP not to let cats out.
There are differences in opinion about whether cats should be allowed to roam or not. Both positions are based on personal beliefs, but in the UK cats are allowed to roam. If that would help the OP's situation then she doesn't need to be told not to do it.

Whyherewego · 24/03/2025 15:33

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think my question, put more succinctly, is should I be putting the cats before my kids and husband, which I think is how they're feeling?

Put that way, I feel like I've made the wrong choice. But I also don't want to give up on the cats.

Edited

No, you shouldn't as the whole family needs to be on board for the 3 dcats being in this family

Mistysmom · 24/03/2025 15:31

@2222thatsme we need photos of these three adorable rascals! Cat tax due! 🥰

ItGhoul · 24/03/2025 15:28

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:53

Spayed at 6-8 weeks?

The OP says above that they were already spayed by the rescue charity at six months old. They're not tiny kittens - they're almost adult cats by the sound of it.

The 6 - 8 weeks is the period the rescue suggested the OP give them to adjust to their new location before letting them out, nothing to do with their age.

ItGhoul · 24/03/2025 15:23

So, the rescue place told you that you can let them out after 6 weeks - does that mean you've had them for less than six weeks?!

Of course it feels chaotic right now - you've only had them for five minutes! Of course there's going to be a bit of an adjustment period. Getting a new pet - certainly cats or dogs, anyway - always comes with a few teething problems and of course the kittens are going stir-crazy if they're all in the house together and not going out to burn off some energy. You can't possibly expect them to be all settled and calm after only a couple of weeks.

singlewhitetrashheap · 24/03/2025 15:22

DO NOT let the kittens out. Cats are NOT part of the ecosystem and actively cause damage to it, they're an invasive species. I love cats, but they are destructive to nature, and unfortunately your house in this case, but you NEED to keep them indoors.

You made this choice and you have to live with it now.

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

Free-ranging cats are one of the most problematic invasive species

The experts found that free-ranging cats have consumed over 2,000 species, 347 of which are listed as threatened

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/03/2025 15:16

If you decide to keep the kittens, I think you may need a mindset change. You can't keep that number of cats and be very houseproud. We have four cats and yes they can be a bit destructive - but I'd never remove furniture or curtains, I've just learned to live with the chaos.
I'd kindly suggest that you need to learn to live with them rather than completely changing your lives to adapt to them.
If you and your family are just getting stressed by them, then returning them ro the rescue is not the worst outcome.

LoztWorld · 24/03/2025 15:08

People are giving you practical
advice on this thread l, but it’s clear to me you just want permission to rehome them. You don’t need to ask us; just do what’s right for you!

But if it helps, I would rehome them in the circumstances you’re describing too and I am a massive cat person who has never rehomed a cat, even through years of really challenging behaviour in some cases. The difference is you’re still so early in. I wouldn’t call you fully “committed” to these pets yet, but soon you will be.

As a side note i think the centre are mental to want a home for three kittens together. But that’s another issue!

LoztWorld · 24/03/2025 15:03

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think my question, put more succinctly, is should I be putting the cats before my kids and husband, which I think is how they're feeling?

Put that way, I feel like I've made the wrong choice. But I also don't want to give up on the cats.

Edited

No, you shouldn’t. If these were cats you’d had for years and they were really part of the family there would be a whole lot more to balance, but the fact they’re making all of you miserable in your own home makes this a no-brainer to me

If you keep them you will all resent them possibly for years and it won’t be a happy home for the cats or you

Give them back now and let the centre find a home where they can thrive

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 24/03/2025 15:02

I have 3 indoor only cats. I am an experienced cat person and I personally disagree with the experts on a few things (I know this is a bit arrogant).

Cats are kind of like goldfish, they adapt their activity levels to what they are given. I have never, ever played high intensity games with any of my cats. I instead play a lot of mentally stimulating games with them.

But they do race around with their siblings and use each other for entertainment, which has the added benefit of them not seeing humans as a play partner. They never scratch or bite hands or ankles because from day one I never used myself as a play thing (people think it's cute when a kitten jumps on their ankle but set themselves up for pain when the cat is grown).

I have zero behavioural issues. Literally none.

My boys are the sweetest and most gentle cats and it is constantly commented on by vets and guests.

One of them (my youngest, a Maine Coon) had a period of time where he was grouchy at my other two (bonded moggie brothers) because he was in pain before an operation. I found the Feliway Optimum Plugins really great. I had one upstairs and one downstairs.

7/8 months is quite an active age. My moggies calmed significantly at the year mark and now have a little run around maybe for 5 mins a day (they are 4).

My Maine Coon is still very kitten like at 2 years and he gets proper zoomies lol.

Cats can absolutely understand tone and facial expressions. I am extremely calm with them at all times, but reserve a loud exclamation and cross face for needed moments. They respond to this and learn very quickly.

Cats do want to please people they care about. That's the beautiful thing. The more you work on your bond, the better behaved they will be. But they also respond negatively to very anxious or highly strung people.

My mum has a very intense energy and my cat who adores everyone runs away from her. So that is something to be conscious of.

Many scents can be toxic to cats. I use a Lampe Berger and the scentless liquid. It is amazing and removes all smells. My house doesn't smell of cats.

Ever Clean cat litter from Amazon is the best in the UK. You need at least two large litter trays. I get the 53cm sized ones and I scoop twice a day.

I highly recommend a robovac. We have a Eufy that goes off every night and it helps keep the floors clean between proper cleans.

I also recommend having a variety of scratching posts. One of my boys likes the flat ones, the other the standing ones.

You can get double sided pet tape on Amazon and put it anywhere you want to protect. They hate the feeling and learn to avoid that area in a few days.

Food DOES make a huge difference. I personally have done a lot of research and discussed it with the specialist vet who operated my youngest and he agreed. He doesn't feed his cats dry food ever. It leads to chronic dehydration because cats don't have the thirst drive needed to offset it. He believes dry food causes most of the urinary and kidney issues he sees.

He believes a high protein, high meat content, grain free, wet only diet to be the most healthy for cats.

I swapped all mine for health reasons and I saw a difference in their fur... But the BIGGEST difference was they became even more placid and settled and just generally happier in themselves.

I buy mine from Zooplus and I feed the brands Wild Freedom, Feringa and Macs. The tins are great because you can get varying sizes and it works out quite cheap when feeding multiple cats at once.

I promise that a couple of months of investing in them will bring you so many amazing rewards. They will be absolute joys! And the added bonus is I have a very clutter free house so they can go where they want lol.

Matsukaze · 24/03/2025 14:57

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:51

I took on two sisters. My god it was like having twin babies!
Up all night like the stairs were a racetrack, cleaning up shit and piss that had missed the litter. Not letting them out until 6 months until they'd been spayed.

I was the same when we got another kitten some years later. My word I love him.

I wouldn't have been without any of them. Ever.

I assume they're not going to be housecats? If so, you are bonkers.

I remember thinking that my kitten was harder work than my son was when he was a toddler 😂

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