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To want to keep trying with the new kittens

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2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:10

We took home 3x 7 month old kittens a month ago from a rescue. We previously had an mature adult cat. We didn't do enough research and totally underestimated the impact of 3x kittens.

I keep having mental wobbles and thinking, "I can't do this." Each time I fall into a bit of depression but eventually come out of it, find a solution to whatever the new challenge is and tell myself, "nope, cats are a commitment".

My husband is doing and saying the same out loud. We're both prone to depression, but his is medicated. However, over the weekend, my husband broke down to his mum about finding it all really hard and not being able to cope. He then admitted to me that he now dreads coming home after work.

The things we're finding hard are:

  1. One of the kittens has also had illness during this time, which required trips to a vet far away, which has been an added stress. He's now on the mend.

  2. The kittens have destroyed a lot of parts of the house. Not from boredom scratching (they have so many toys including puzzle ones, scratching posts, I try to do interactive play with them when I can). The damage occurs just from them playing together. It's sweet to watch, they're bonded littermates, but through simply playing chase and pounce with each other, they've destroyed furniture and curtains. I started to price up buying replacements for the damaged stuff over the weekend, got beyond £1K, then stopped and just cried.

To minimise the destruction we have removed all curtains, rugs, an armchair (replaced it with a massive cat tree), and removed all ornaments.

Yesterday evening, my husband sat down next to me in the living room and said, "the room is cold and echoe-y. I don't like the lack of privacy. I'm going to my office." Five minutes later, he then left the office as it's so overcrowded with our ornaments (it's the only cat free room we can reasonably have, as our kids forget to shut the other doors). He says our house doesn't feel like our house anymore, it feels like a cattery with people inserted into it.

I asked an online cat forum and they recommended Jackson Galaxy. I watched his videos this morning and he said each cat just need 30-45 minutes strenuous play a day. Individual play needed as some cats dominate the play and prevent others getting attention. So for three cats that's 2 hours and 15 minutes play a day. I've managed 15 minutes and then ten minutes play with all three cats so far today, not done separate play yet. They mostly wanted to play chase and pounce with each other.

  1. The rest of my life has gone out of the window. I was told at the beginning of the year that I needed to lose weight as my heart health is bad (my dad died young of heart disease so it's a big worry for me). I started a strict diet and exercise routine and lost some weight. This all stopped with the cats, the weight is back on and I'm now stress eating again, although trying not to.

  2. Our kids (7 and 9), who are both diagnosed ND or likely ND, recently told me that I never pay attention to the anymore. I've tried to encourage them to join with me in playing with the cats, which occasionally they do and to be fair my 7 year old helped me build a new cat tree for them over the weekend, but mostly they don't want to and ask "can't we do something else?" They're also overwhelmed by the smell and mess, and chose to play in rooms away from the kitchen-diner, where the cats are based. I asked on a parenting ND children forum, and most people said pets helped their ND kids.

  3. The house cleaning has gone out of the window, which is another stresser for my husband. He likes a clean, immaculate house, which I never fully achieved, but I used to get close to. Now, there's food, litter and cat toys in lots of places. He's also likely ND and finds it overwhelming. My husband works FT, I work PT (3-6 hours a week, depending on need), so housework falls on me. He is picking up more household chores without me asking, but I can see it's adding to his stress levels.

  4. I made some pin money selling secondhand baby clothes, which had the bonus of decluttering the house and helping my husband's anxiety levels. That has also gone by the wayside.

  5. I keep forgetting to do stuff. I forgot to get my kid's uniform washed in time for today. I forgot we'd run out of food so couldn't do my son's packed lunch. I forgot the stuff my daughter needed for Brownies. My brain can't seem to remember the previous emotional load.

I can't do it all and at the moment, the cats take up most of my time. I'm suspected to have ADHD alongside depression, so it's an effort for me to focus on a task. Maybe if I could be more productive, then it would be easier. But it's beginning to feel like there isn't enough hours in the day.

So, at the moment I'm saying, lets keep going with the kittens, they'll grow out of it in a year or so, we can do this. But the rest of my family aren't feeling it and are either depressed (my husband) or highly strung (my kids - who pick up on their parents not being ok mentally by becoming more disruptive, fighting more, shouting and screaming more - so I'm trying to manage their behaviours on top of everything else).

My MIL says "get rid of the cats, your and your family's mental health is more important".

Have I made the wrong choice?

OP posts:
BCSurvivor · 25/03/2025 11:37

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The plan is they shouldn't have the run of the house. They should just have the kitchen-diner and the living room, if others are in there. Our old mature cat had the run of the house but we're struggling to cat proof the rest of the house to the level needed for kittens, which wasn't necessary with out mature cat. However, restricting them is the plan, but in reality I'm struggling to get it to work because my children regularly forget to close the required doors. My daughter, bless her, wanders around in a daydream (she's like Luna Lovegood) and my son is usually focussed on a special interest. Both happy in their own headspace, but oblivious to their surroundings and totally unable to remember things like keep this door shut or make sure if you shut this door the cats are on the correct side. I think the constant door monitor role I've taken on is taking over my life and my headspace.

These are three kittens who have bundles of energy and aren't yet allowed outside.
Containing them to just one room - or two if someone is in there - really isn't workable long term, even when they are allowed outside.
It's not really fair on the kittens, now or in the future.

2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:30

BCSurvivor · 25/03/2025 11:06

But OP, you're not coping with them at all and have quite obviously taken on more than you can manage.
Kittens need more interaction than "aiming for an hour a day with them"
I think you got carried away at the rescue centre with the cuteness of tiny kittens, and now reality has kicked in.

I think I want to cope though and I don't want to give up on them. Others who asked for the kittens on the adoption post had children, and younger children in a lot of cases. So many of our friends had kittens with younger children. I feel like I (and my family) just aren't trying hard enough.

I didn't get carried away with the cuteness. I mean they are cute, but so was out mature cat, she was stunningly cute. They also look almost like adult cats, they're not tiny kittens. I thought, we've had a cat before, we know how to do cats. I asked the rescue at our interview is there anything else we need to know and were told make sure you have lots of toys and no lily plants. So I did both of those things.

Then I googled, why are our cats destroying our curtains and furniture, and once I got past the, are they bored test? I realised they're just full of energy and bouncing off stuff while attached with claws.

Each time I try to find a solution to a challenge, but my MIL's comments threw me. I don't want to prioritise the cats over my husband and kids - that's wrong - but I also want us to cope with this like every other household with kids manages to cope with kittens - hence asking on Mumsnet, which I presume if full of people who have children.

OP posts:
2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:24

Tdcp · 24/03/2025 14:51

I used to Foster cats and I've owned a lot of them too. You sound very overwhelmed and the cats are taking precedent over everything and everyone else, it's understandable but please take a step back for a bit. They are 7 months old and they are absolutely full of energy. I would seriously consider starting to let them out now rather than waiting another 2 weeks. Just sniffing around outside should wear them out a bit at this age. It also sounds like they have the run of the house, which is fantastic for them but if they're that destructive you should consider allocating a room or two to them until they're trained. It's far easier the train a cat that's in a room than a whole house. It doesn't have to be a permanent solution of course but it may help you feel more on top of things.
You absolutely should be playing with the cats but there are things you can do that aren't so intensive, throwing rolled up crisp packets for example, anything that rustles, let them chase it.
You mentioned the cat smell, are they properly litter trained? If they're having accidents or purposefully going outside the box this needs to be stopped, going back to the room allocation, calmly take them back to the box every single time you can, or they may take to going outside, mine don't have litter trays as they don't use them. I do honestly think letting them out could solve a lot of these issues.

They will grow out of it but it could be a few years before they properly settle down energy wise. If you don't feel as though you can cope, even with doing the above then they're at a good age to remove as a bonded trio. I don't usually advocate to rehome pets once you have them but sometimes it's okay to admit you have made a mistake.

Good luck op!

Thank you. Maybe I am just overthinking and being anxious. I asked on a cat forum and most people said they play with their kittens for 5-6 hours a day. I kept thinking of the thousands of people with kittens, surely most of them have jobs and kids and not a free 5-6 hours a day. Then I watched Jackson Galaxy and he said 2 1/4 hours a day, so I tried that but was only realistically managing 1 hour of play a day. Then I panicked and thought, crap I can't do this on top of everything else.

Yes, I will start letting them out in a week when I can do it gradually and consistently.

The plan is they shouldn't have the run of the house. They should just have the kitchen-diner and the living room, if others are in there. Our old mature cat had the run of the house but we're struggling to cat proof the rest of the house to the level needed for kittens, which wasn't necessary with out mature cat. However, restricting them is the plan, but in reality I'm struggling to get it to work because my children regularly forget to close the required doors. My daughter, bless her, wanders around in a daydream (she's like Luna Lovegood) and my son is usually focussed on a special interest. Both happy in their own headspace, but oblivious to their surroundings and totally unable to remember things like keep this door shut or make sure if you shut this door the cats are on the correct side. I think the constant door monitor role I've taken on is taking over my life and my headspace.

Yes, this mornings playtime was a mixture of getting them to chase the wand and then playing fetch with all the numerous toys they have, trying to work out which they prefer. Crisps packets are a good idea, thank you. This morning, two of the cats went after the same spring toy (despite the fact they have three) and kept wrestling for said toy, one wanted the cat nip pilllows to use as a kicker. They chased balls with bells through their tunnels and i kept kicking those around at the end of the play session while I made myself a cup of tea before doing some household chores.

Yes, completely litter trained although we occasionally (maybe every few days) find a poo elsewhere. Which I then put into a litter box, then thoroughly clean that area to stop them re-pooing there.

That is in the back of my head. They are still cute kittens with added adoption appeal. Something to consider, thank you.

OP posts:
2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:11

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:51

I took on two sisters. My god it was like having twin babies!
Up all night like the stairs were a racetrack, cleaning up shit and piss that had missed the litter. Not letting them out until 6 months until they'd been spayed.

I was the same when we got another kitten some years later. My word I love him.

I wouldn't have been without any of them. Ever.

I assume they're not going to be housecats? If so, you are bonkers.

No, the plan is for them to have access to outdoors, just not yet.

Sounds like we just have normal kittens.

OP posts:
2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:07

Matsukaze · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think rescues can sometimes be a bit over cautious with the advice for letting cats out. They advised me to wait to age 6 months but it was just unfeasible so I did let him out before this (he had been neutered before I got him from rescue at 10 weeks). I supervised him closely for the first couple of weeks but then when he was going over the fence that was that! All cats are different and all circumstances are different too of course, I live on a quiet cul de sac and my garden overlooks some woodland, he was desperate to go out.

Edited

Ok noted. I guess you know your own cat and can see when they're ready. I might let out gradually at 5 weeks and see how we go.

OP posts:
BCSurvivor · 25/03/2025 11:06

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:34

Why would the rescue consider us unsuitable? We'd had a previous cat. I am engaging with them, aiming for over an hour a day. My kids are occasionally but feel overwhelmed.

But OP, you're not coping with them at all and have quite obviously taken on more than you can manage.
Kittens need more interaction than "aiming for an hour a day with them"
I think you got carried away at the rescue centre with the cuteness of tiny kittens, and now reality has kicked in.

2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:06

DrPrunesqualer · 25/03/2025 02:14

It sounds like you’re doing all you can. Hang in there !

but tbh OP I’m just here for the photos. Please OP

Thank you, that's really kind. I want to.

I'd love to post photos but I'm scared the rescue and foster carer will recognise them 😬.

I feel bad complaining, the kittens had a rough start to life and the foster carer did so, so much work into raising them. She wanted them to go to a loving home, and I am trying every day to give the cats love, positive reinforcement, strokes and give them that home, but also balancing everybody else's needs in the home.

They're cute kittens just being kittens. I just didn't realise I (nor my family) would feel so much overwhelm and for everything to change so much.

I can tell you they are adorable, and don't look that far from Puss in Boots with their big eyes.

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2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 11:00

kinkytoes · 25/03/2025 04:20

Yes start letting them out.

And fgs put your curtains back up! Unless they were handmade from expensive silk I can't see why you need to remove them. You have 3 kittens, things are going to get clawed a bit! As a cat owner, parts of our carpet are looking quite shabby! But they are worth it 🥰

Ok, I've ordered Rogz quick release collars with tags and I'll start letting them out next week (we're away this weekend but have two cat-owning friends coming to entertain and look after the kittens).

So, the curtains are not made from expensive silk. They are made from heavy duty material with blackout lining. And cost £390 to replace apparently (wtaf? - they were £200 four years ago). I was expecting some clawing but the kittens did this.

So we took these curtains and any other long curtains around the house down. I hoping we can put them back up in the future.

The kittens aren't scratching from boredom. They're just playing chase and run up curtains. And the curtains can't take their weight, I guess. They've bounced off armchairs and table tops and there's tears and deep scratches in these too.

Our previous cat, who was admittedly mature, did scratch, well really mostly just knead/make biscuits. I have blankets and bits of the same armchair with pulls on them to contend that. It's the level of damage that has thrown me a bit.

To want to keep trying with the new kittens
OP posts:
2222thatsme · 25/03/2025 10:51

stayathomer · 24/03/2025 16:03

Op it gets much easier as they get older, our cat was a crazy kitten but now at only 4 is much more sedentary. I would say personally I think most people (us included) shouldn’t have animals, I think there’s people who make them their everything, they incorporate the animal into their day, but not as a ‘I need to make time’. To be honest I’d consider rehoming , it just sounds like there’s a lot of things you all need to make time for x

Thank you for your kind response. I want to make it work and I think I just keep need to tell myself and my family, "this will get easier" and "one day, we'll have curtains and rugs again." 😆

I persuaded my kids to play with the kittens yesterday evening while I sorted washing/took out the bins etc. I came back to my son saying they wouldn't play and he couldn't work out why but my daughter sitting in the cat tree reading a story to them. I think we all just have a lot of learning to do. My husband went out for the evening and I think is refreshed from having some time to himself.

I do wonder a lot about whether other people are just more relaxed and maybe don't do everything that's advised. We have neighbours with dogs and they let them wander out into the road, leave them barking in the garden and just ignore them and get on with their lives. Yet, everyone says they're great dog owners. Maybe we just need to chill out as a family.

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SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 25/03/2025 10:41

Can you get kitty harnesses and take them out for a walk in the garden? Just whilst they're tiny and you want to keep an eye on them outside.

Kittens can be crackers. I got four at once and two were easy and two were bonkers. I kept them in one big room with lots of toys for the first month.

They all piped down at about 8 months.

You can do this.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 25/03/2025 07:17

3 kittens is nuts, just let them out now 🤷‍♀️

If it’s that or rehome the cats why would you wait, I’ve always let my kittens out as soon as they are neutered and chipped.

If there’s one kitten who is more independent I would seriously consider rehoming at least one of them.

Tumbleweed101 · 25/03/2025 06:54

Reminds me of when my cat had a litter of kittens (many years ago now). We were definitely ready to let the whirlwinds go to their new homes when they were old enough! Personally I don’t think I’d manage more than one kitten at a time, partly because of the litter boxes and there not being places to easily have them space wise and partly because they do cause a lot of chaos playing.

If you do decide to rehome then do it while they are still young.

bengalcat · 25/03/2025 06:43

I’d let them out now

ilovesooty · 25/03/2025 06:31

user9632579 · 25/03/2025 01:58

OP had a cat. Why shouldn't she get any more pets because she's struggling with 3 kittens? 🙄
Honestly the way people act on Mumsnet is beyond me sometimes. They don't act like this in person and seem to save their anger to pour out on mumsnet because they can get away with it.

I would have said the same thing in person. I think the rescue was at fault for rehoming three kittens to someone with no experience of kittens. She admittedly did have an adult cat previously but she hasn't said what her circumstances were then.

Joystir59 · 25/03/2025 06:28

Don't let these kittens ruin your lives any further. Take them back to the rescue. Recover.

0ohLarLar · 25/03/2025 06:21

Rescues are so stupid about insisting cats go as 2s &3s. There's no guarantee those bonds will survive to adulthood anyway

Bigoldmoneypit · 25/03/2025 06:18

I had three kittens from 8 weeks. It doesn’t last. I have 6 cats altogether, one of those kittens still thinks he’s a kitten the rest are pretty chill.

JorgyPorgy · 25/03/2025 05:25

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:40

That's the plan, once they've done the 6-8 weeks indoors the rescue asked for.

I think persevere a bit as this could improve things.
The kids will bond with the cats over time and play with them more if they see that you care for and play with the cats.
Could you walk them outside individually on a lead for 20-30 mins a day? Not sure what age kitttens have to be for that. It could help with getting 10000 steps & your weight/ health too? Walking is actually v good for weightloss.
put curtains back up & make house a home again. Or put up different curtains of tougher material whatever that might be.
You don’t work many hours and cats can be nice company while homemaking.

JorgyPorgy · 25/03/2025 05:12

AfricanGreen · 24/03/2025 14:16

You are overwhelmed. You have taken on too much. Sometimes it's better to admit defeat and sell some. You need to go down to one kitten only.

I think it would be cruel to separate the three kittens . Either keep , have a cat flap so they can play in garden ( as long as not busy roads nearby) or rehome the three bonded siblings together

FiveShelties · 25/03/2025 04:29

You were really brave taking on three kittens, one was more than enough for me to cope with.

I would let them out, they will burn off energy - hopefully - and leave your curtains. furniture alone.

kinkytoes · 25/03/2025 04:20

Yes start letting them out.

And fgs put your curtains back up! Unless they were handmade from expensive silk I can't see why you need to remove them. You have 3 kittens, things are going to get clawed a bit! As a cat owner, parts of our carpet are looking quite shabby! But they are worth it 🥰

silentpool · 25/03/2025 04:01

I got a male kitten who is much higher energy than my older Persian. I'm not sure how you are coping with 3! I know they are bonded but I'd be tempted to re-home 2 and maybe get an older cat later. I know I'll never get another kitten, as I don't have the patience.

I got an outdoor enclosure for the cats and they spend most of the day and often part of the night there. If they are being turds, I send them out and close the cat flap. Life changing 😂

DrPrunesqualer · 25/03/2025 02:14

It sounds like you’re doing all you can. Hang in there !

but tbh OP I’m just here for the photos. Please OP

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user9632579 · 25/03/2025 02:00

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:32

I should have added. Our adult cat has passed away. We have three kittens as the rescue wanted them to stay together as bonded littermates.

You did say that OP. People struggle with comprehension or just ignore it in attempt to bully further.

user9632579 · 25/03/2025 01:58

ilovesooty · 24/03/2025 14:22

I'm surprised that the rescue considered you suitable owners in the first place. Given that no one in the house is going to engage properly with them, perhaps you'd better admit you made a mistake and return them - all of them as they're bonded. Hopefully they'll be young enough to be rehomed quickly and not be damaged too much by the experience.

Don't feel tempted to get any more animals either.

OP had a cat. Why shouldn't she get any more pets because she's struggling with 3 kittens? 🙄
Honestly the way people act on Mumsnet is beyond me sometimes. They don't act like this in person and seem to save their anger to pour out on mumsnet because they can get away with it.

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