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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

OP posts:
Ilikeadrink14 · 24/03/2025 14:44

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 24/03/2025 12:31

I would be as annoyed as he was tbh! In fact I probably would have refused to eat there. If they run until a certain time then all the dishes should be available until that time!

I totally agree with your Dad’s anger, but not his reaction, which clearly spoiled it for everyone else. However, maybe this was expected to be a real treat for him assuming he doesn’t go out for meals that often and he felt really disappointed.
The restaurant is clearly at fault for not having a full menu and should be called out in their bad management. I would never go there again if it were me.
I feel sorry for your dad. Is there another restaurant you could take him to, so he could have an enjoyable meal? It seems a shame that he as so disappointed. If my favourite dish’s weren’t available, I’d be very annoyed and disappointed too.

Nanny0gg · 24/03/2025 14:43

thankyounextplease · 24/03/2025 13:49

Team Dad. I would have joined in with the moaning.

A buffet you expect to have the basics right to the end, it's not like it's cooked to each individual order and you'd asked for something specialist. It takes a few minutes to stick some poppadoms on and seconds to put more chutney out.

Edited

Then that would be the last time I treated you to a meal

Nanny0gg · 24/03/2025 14:42

Gemmawemma9 · 24/03/2025 13:05

Maybe he felt like as the “host” you should have suggested eating elsewhere? Instead of paying full price for a crap buffet.

He wasn't the host

The OP said very clearly it was her idea and her treat

YesYesAllGood · 24/03/2025 14:36

Riapia · 24/03/2025 13:23

Not the response you expected OP.

Because half of Mumsnet completely failed to read her OP properly.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 24/03/2025 14:36

Ok. The first thing I thought as I started to read was: 'Who turns up to a buffet at 3 knowing it finishes at 4? Madness! There will only be the dregs left.'

Anway, you know that now, lesson learnt. It was your treat, so however disappointed and annoyed your dad was, it was really ungracious to keep banging on about it in front of you. It wasn't his money that was wasted, it was yours. He still ate, however much of a damp squib it was.

You need to tell him, when you are calmer and the dust has settled, why he upset you. Don't say 'dad you always bang on and labour a point and it gets boring to listen to.' Just stick to the facts about this incident and don't mention anything else.

Say 'I know the lack of food on offer was disappointing. We probably should not have turned up so late. However, I was treating you to lunch and it was bad manners to keep moaning about it in front of me. It made me feel like I was the one letting you down and I think you owe me an apology. If you'll say sorry for being a bit ungracious and spoilt then I'll say sorry for snapping at you, and we can just forget about it. Yes?'

BunnyLake · 24/03/2025 14:26

Moveoverdarlin · 24/03/2025 14:01

I agree with him. It was shit and he just couldn’t hide it.

Yes but it’s not good manners if it’s at the invite of someone else. At most a, well that’s disappointing they've run out of a full buffet, what do you want to do? And then sucked it up. Inside I would have been very frustrated (I like a good buffet and a good whinge) but I’ve learned it’s best to go with the flow of the company you’re in.

Katemax82 · 24/03/2025 14:26

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 24/03/2025 12:31

I would be as annoyed as he was tbh! In fact I probably would have refused to eat there. If they run until a certain time then all the dishes should be available until that time!

Totally agree! 3pm sittings deserve the same choice as a 1pm one..you pay the same amount right?

IlooklikeNigella · 24/03/2025 14:23

OP you are DNBU. If it makes you feel any better my dad behaved like this every single time we took him anywhere. You know when you start earning and you really get a kick out of being able to treat your parents? He soured it every single time moaning & complaining and often then grumpily grabbing the bill and a big fight would ensue.

I don't know how old you all are but I can tell you that as the years then decades advanced, he got worse! Your post brought quite a few (now he's gone I can laugh at them fondly) memories of how he used to practically tantrum in restaurants. One time he declared he wasn't paying their extortionate prices (WE were paying) and he bought a kitkat in the shop next door and sat glaring at the staff as if willing them to cause a scene.

I will say he never changed and when I finally realised that he was free to be an arsehole and I was free to only see him when I felt like it that I got some peace.

Your mum has lived her life dealing with his moods so she is targetting you to calm down and restore peace as you're more likely to acquiesce (I've no idea if I've used that term correctly but hopefully I've made my point).

Personally I would either not apologise and pretend it didn't happen or I would apologise FOR MY PART ONLY and try to explain that you were upset because you had wanted to do something nice and it was being ruined. But if you don't want to do either that's totally your right.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/03/2025 14:22

I have a friend whose parents are like this... moan about everything... She's given up doing anything nice for them as they don't appreciate it and will pick it all apart, just to have a poke at her. (letterbox flowers to make sure they arrived - some "stalks" arrived, vintage port for a milestone anniversary - "we can't think what we'd do with it (they drink port) so we gave it to our NDN" - She's learnt never to take them out to a resturant, they critique every course (watch too much Masterchef) They cannot understand the concept of just having a nice get together, or a day out in the company of family, particulary the GC, somewhere other than their overheated house, without going into an assessment of the environs etc.
If there was an element of this in the OP's dad's moaning, I'm not surprised she's fed up because its like throwing her attempt at a treat back in her face.

Loub1987 · 24/03/2025 14:20

I would find that insufferable OP! Yes, maybe the buffet was terrible but I’m sure he could have found something to eat and not gone on and on about it.

Bobnobob · 24/03/2025 14:19

Missing the point entirely but why the hell couldn’t they have given him some mango chutney?

Anyway, he does sound insufferable. However this repeating mundane things does happen to people as they get older. Instead of ignoring it until you snap maybe some good natured ribbing would help him stop or at least make it more tolerable. ‘Remember that time Dad didn’t get his mango chutney and complained to us 45 times.

JamSandwich27 · 24/03/2025 14:19

I’d have been just as annoyed as your dad tbh. A buffet running until 4pm shouldn’t be basically empty at 3pm. I’m expect them to stop bringing new things out at about 3.45pm. It’s the nature of running a buffet, sometimes you’ll have stuff left over 🤷‍♀️ They’ve clearly lost repeat business over this and you won’t be the only people who go once and never return. It’s very short-sighted of them in my opinion.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 24/03/2025 14:19

Thestarsinthesky · 24/03/2025 12:32

I kind of see your dad’s point- but he shouldn’t have ruined the meal. He should have taken it up with the restaurant and they should have sorted the bill accordingly

You missed her point.

Sunshineandoranges · 24/03/2025 14:15

I’m with you op. My children treated me to a birthday lunch. The foot I chose was horrible. I didn’t mention it at all. I think in your dad’s situation I would have moaned at first then said but it’s a lovely treat anyway,

Noperope · 24/03/2025 14:11

Ex dp is like this. If he starts I say "you're absolutely right, you should go and tell them". That usually shuts him up as he doesn't want the confrontation, just a trapped audience to fawn over him while he moans and whinges.

Mudkipper · 24/03/2025 14:07

Your mistake was in not leaving straight away!

5128gap · 24/03/2025 14:05

If I was your dad I'd have been very annoyed. More so if it was my DDs money wasted on a shoddy meal. Winding down is no excuse unless it's cheaper during the final hour, which I bet it wasn't! Of course, I'm so terrified of being called 'Karen' I'd have probably said nothing. But there's no such stigma for men, so your dad should have complained properly and either achieved better service or a discount. He was U to moan to his family.

OverpricedCupcake · 24/03/2025 14:05

Moveoverdarlin · 24/03/2025 14:01

I agree with him. It was shit and he just couldn’t hide it.

Adults can hide it when it's ruining the entire experience for others.

samarrange · 24/03/2025 14:04

Ineedanewsofa · 24/03/2025 13:58

Have not RTFT but YANBU @IGetWeak - I have a moaner in the family who would pull exactly this sort of shit and has form for ruining meals etc by constantly going on. What they are looking for is validation that they are right by others joining ‘the chorus’ and because they don’t get it, they keep repeating themselves seeking that affirmation/validation.
The only way to shut them up is to look them dead in the eye and politely ask “what would you like me to do about it?” and go on to offer the option to leave right now/send the food back/ask to speak to the manager. The idea that they will have to put their money where their mouth is backs them right off.

What they are looking for is validation that they are right by others joining ‘the chorus’ and because they don’t get it, they keep repeating themselves seeking that affirmation/validation.

That happens quite a lot on AIBU threads too...

wizzywig · 24/03/2025 14:04

You know what yo get him on father's day

AltitudeCheck · 24/03/2025 14:03

@IGetWeak I can sympathise, my FIL also can't say something once... if there's ever a micro silence he'll fill it by repeating something he's already said, often several times already that conversation. It's not dementia, he's always done this, it's more like a tic or habit.

Me and OH are frequently exchanging glances and suppressing eye rolls as it's absolutely infuriating, a relentless steam of words that obscures the interesting parts of a conversation because there's never a silence to digest information or switch off, even for a second. An afternoon there leaves me feeling exhausted.

They are both retired and I can only imagine what his poor wife endures listening to him all day every day. We'll miss him when he's gone though so we smile and bear it!

jackstini · 24/03/2025 14:02

As soon as you realised the situation, you should have spoken to someone and made it clear that if you were paying full price, they needed to bring out more food

You didn’t address it, and as you were paying, no one else felt they could - so you all got a substandard dinner

What % of the buffet was actually in stock?

godmum56 · 24/03/2025 14:01

TorroFerney · 24/03/2025 13:51

Why has she to ignore him? Why can’t he show a modicum of emotional intelligence/maturity?

because she has known him for long enough to know he won't.

Moveoverdarlin · 24/03/2025 14:01

I agree with him. It was shit and he just couldn’t hide it.

Ineedanewsofa · 24/03/2025 13:58

Have not RTFT but YANBU @IGetWeak - I have a moaner in the family who would pull exactly this sort of shit and has form for ruining meals etc by constantly going on. What they are looking for is validation that they are right by others joining ‘the chorus’ and because they don’t get it, they keep repeating themselves seeking that affirmation/validation.
The only way to shut them up is to look them dead in the eye and politely ask “what would you like me to do about it?” and go on to offer the option to leave right now/send the food back/ask to speak to the manager. The idea that they will have to put their money where their mouth is backs them right off.