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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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Loub1987 · 24/03/2025 17:51

I am so confused by some of these posts, yes it wasn’t an amazing buffet but it sounds like it wasn’t slop. Surely basic manners require you just smile and eat a curry as opposed to consistently bang on about the lack of poppadoms. I say that as someone who loves poppadoms BTW.

It reminds me of my parents, they took me on holidays when I was a teenager. They never really had money for this sort of thing, so it was a big deal. The hotel wasn’t to their taste and they were dissatisfied. Instead of just trying to enjoy it for what it was, they were miserable and consistently moaned for a week. They ruined what enjoyment they might have had. Clearly it stuck with me as I am speaking about it 25 years later, sad really 😅

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:36

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 24/03/2025 13:12

I'm sorry OP - and I think you're 100% in the right - but I think it's sort of hilarious that you started a thread about your dad's moaning and got a wall of posters going 'ooh, but it does sound shit though' and 'but the sides make an indian!' as if they're all his tribute act or something!

I’ve decided I’m actually going to suggest this to him. Mainly because I’ve thought of a great name for the act - Papa Dom and the Chutnettes.

He can’t sing, but it won’t matter too much as, in the spirit of his behaviour, he can just learn one song and play it over and over and over until we all die.

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:24

To be fair I see his point. The moment you found out nothing else is coming I’d have walked out and gone somewhere else to have a proper lunch.

Where? We weren’t in the restaurant quarter of a major capital city. Factor in to that that presumably we’d have had to have at least some sort of discussion with the restaurant before walking out without paying for what we’d already eaten, and suddenly a late lunch becomes an early dinner.

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:22

The real question is OP- how many naans did you have?

Haha! I saw that thread too 😄 They would have been delighted to know there was a tray of naan 🫓

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MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 24/03/2025 17:20

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 24/03/2025 16:55

I've known both men and women of all ages do this - some people are just persistent moaners. Actually, in my personal experience it's more common in women as they're more likely to have been actively encouraged to be passive-aggressive rather than just saying what they want to happen. I think your only hope is to say 'alright, we get the picture!' or something else in as jovial a manner as you can manage early on in the moan, but even that's got a low chance of success. Otherwise you end up exploding, as the OP did, and then they will feel entirely justified in moaning about how rude and aggressive you are.

Agree it's not just men, but they do tend to get angrier than women. Some men of my acquaintance, if you said 'all right, we get the picture!' to them, they'd absolutely explode - or sulk!

PeloMom · 24/03/2025 16:56

To be fair I see his point. The moment you found out nothing else is coming I’d have walked out and gone somewhere else to have a proper lunch.
the restaurant should have been upfront and if there was really nothing they could do to give you some additional food (I mean, they have zero jars of chutney rolling around in the kitchen???), they should have proactively reflected the lack of food in the bill.

cakewench · 24/03/2025 16:55

Honestly, this thread!

Dad was reasonable to be irritated, but stop banging on about it after the first complaint. We know you're disappointed, we don't need to hear about it for the entire meal. I would be exactly as annoyed with this carrying on as OP.

Restaurant: absolutely unreasonable. I worked in the industry for several years in my 20s. If they've advertised a buffet until 4pm, it's 3pm and they want to start clearing up, at a minimum they should ask which items you're most interested in and which ones they can tidy away. If the poppadoms were important to the customers who have paid for the meal, fgs bring out poppadoms and chutney. The cost of the poppadoms, chutney, and a vegetarian main would easily be included in whatever price you paid, and he isn't wrong that quite a lot of people would be disappointed by not having them.

We used to go to a Chinese buffet years ago and if we were ever late, they would essentially come ask us if there were any dishes we'd like, and they made small versions for us while they cleared up.

I'd actually be inclined to send them some reasonable feedback about this, given that they're new to offering a buffet.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 24/03/2025 16:55

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 24/03/2025 16:51

Just old blokes innit. Once they've got (what they feel is) a perfectly legitimate complaint, emotional intelligence or awareness of the bigger picture goes out the window.
Arguing, reasoning or even agreeing with them doesn't help. It kind of just has to come out. Ad nauseam.
Curious to know if anyone's found a way round it.

I've known both men and women of all ages do this - some people are just persistent moaners. Actually, in my personal experience it's more common in women as they're more likely to have been actively encouraged to be passive-aggressive rather than just saying what they want to happen. I think your only hope is to say 'alright, we get the picture!' or something else in as jovial a manner as you can manage early on in the moan, but even that's got a low chance of success. Otherwise you end up exploding, as the OP did, and then they will feel entirely justified in moaning about how rude and aggressive you are.

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 24/03/2025 16:51

Just old blokes innit. Once they've got (what they feel is) a perfectly legitimate complaint, emotional intelligence or awareness of the bigger picture goes out the window.
Arguing, reasoning or even agreeing with them doesn't help. It kind of just has to come out. Ad nauseam.
Curious to know if anyone's found a way round it.

VickyEadieofThigh · 24/03/2025 16:34

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:14

I’m assuming pedantry rather than stupidity here. You know very well what someone saying “My treat” means.

OP, I've also been on the receiving end of doing a nice thing, only for the recipient(s) to complain horribly, embarrass the fuck out of me and thereby throw the whole thing back in my face.

You're right to be pissed off.

Smallmercies · 24/03/2025 16:30

JitterbugFairy · 24/03/2025 12:36

Not surprised he was pissed off. They should have been bringing food out until 4pm.

Or else halving the price for the last hour.

Baconmaple · 24/03/2025 16:28

Half the people say you are being unreasonable so maybe you should forgive your dad and realise that while 50% of people think he deserved to be told off by you the other 50% don't think that.
I think a lot of people would repeatedly comment as the buffet was do lacking compared to what you would expect. I do think if I was you as host I would have complained to the restaurant

Mirabai · 24/03/2025 16:28

I think you needed to clarify with the restaurant whether they were just open until 4pm for lunch or whether they were actually serving fresh lunch until then. I don’t think I’ve ever pitched up at a restaurant at 3 and expect to have lunch unless it’s Christmas and I’d booked a table. (But that’s different as it’s not a buffet).

But your dad sounds like pia nonetheless.

Sotired222 · 24/03/2025 16:26

The thing is they don't because they are actually cowards and just take it out on their wife/family. Horrible behaviour!

Sotired222 · 24/03/2025 16:24

I can't stand people like this. Either take it up with the appropriate people or shut your mouth. You certainly won't be taking him out to eat ever again.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 24/03/2025 16:18

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

I agree it's rude but I also see her view due the pent up frustration. It's not just from the day but built up over time with the incessant need to bang on and on and on about something. I know someone like that and it's freaking annoying. I heard you the first time so shut up. Talking about it 50 times isn't going to change anything.

And her mom seems to have accepted it as her lot in life and enables him.

Yes she should have tried to bite her tongue but I also see how frustration can build up till it spills out.

It just be really bad when a daughter gets to that point with her father so he also needs to work on himself. Moaners are annoying and suck the life out of people close to them.

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 16:14

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

He had it coming! I’m not going to put up with that shit just because he’s my father.

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TorroFerney · 24/03/2025 16:08

godmum56 · 24/03/2025 14:01

because she has known him for long enough to know he won't.

She can still be irked. Now, should she have taken him out/treated him knowing what he is like, that’s a different question.

we are always hopeful our relatives will behave differently this time!

Melonmango70 · 24/03/2025 16:07

Until I read this post, it wouldn't in the least occur to me that the buffet wouldn't be fully available if I got there at 3. If you go for a carvery that's served from 1-4 (for example), do you expect to just eat the remains if you rock up at 3? Or do you expect the same options as everyone else had in the preceding two hours? In both instances I'd expect to have freshly cooked food avaiable right up until the end of the buffet serving time (4pm!). I'd be disappointed and put it down to experience, but I know for a fact my mother would have acted in the same way as the OPs father, and I feel her pain! You live and learn, c'est la vie!

AthWat · 24/03/2025 16:05

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

She didn't speak to your parents like that. She spoke to her father like that. He deserved it. Your parents might not. But when you're an adult, you should really base the way you speak to them on the way they behave, not on the fact that they are your parents. Parents run the full gamut of society from the worst of people to the best.

GameOfJones · 24/03/2025 16:03

Bogginsthe3rd · 24/03/2025 15:26

This is why I only dine at Michelin star restaurants when dining out. If it's not going to be better than our own delicious home cooked food, then why bother? Going to a buffet an hour before closing sounds like asking for trouble and if it's awful the whole way through then why pretend it isn't. I'm with your father really but tbh you all should have just left of every aspect was substandard.

I'm trying to work out whether this is satire.....🤣🤣🤣

DingDingRound3 · 24/03/2025 15:59

Sunshineandoranges · 24/03/2025 14:15

I’m with you op. My children treated me to a birthday lunch. The foot I chose was horrible. I didn’t mention it at all. I think in your dad’s situation I would have moaned at first then said but it’s a lovely treat anyway,

Was pig foot or cow foot, I quite like pig 😁

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 15:58

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:20

I put the waiter in a headlock and made him beg for mercy. When eventually he began to struggle to breathe, I told him I’d let him go if he fetched more poppadoms immediately. He couldn’t speak, but he just about had enough space to nod, so I let him go.

Love it OP! 😂 You plainly didn't inherit your sense of humour from your Dad!

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 15:56

mum2jakie · 24/03/2025 15:17

I'm a miserable bugger and even worse when hangry!! I'd be gutted if an Indian buffet had no basics such as poppadoms, chutneys and side dishes and would probably be moaning even more than your dad! They really are the best parts of an Indian meal!

But would you be endlessly moaning to your DD who was picking up the bill?