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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 23:05

I take your point though, if it was a business dinner then I would keep quiet. But the organiser would seriously drop in my estimation if they didn’t ensure that everyone was happy. Using your terminology, in this case the host was happy but wasn’t bothered that her guests weren’t, which is not good manners.

But what would you have had me do? I am not the poppadom fairy. I cannot magic side dishes from thin air. We’d sat down, we’d ordered, we’d started eating… then we realised this was it. No replenishment.

No one was served anything undercooked, burnt or that could have given them food poisoning. It was a mildly disappointing meal. They happen in restaurants globally every day. How I’m a “bad host” or have “bad manners” because of something I could not control is beyond me. What IS bad manners is to spend the entire meal complaining, even when your fellow diners have told you more than once to leave it.

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AngryBookworm · 24/03/2025 22:53

Next time I go to a buffet I'm going to keep an eye out for all these buffet inspectors surveying the buffet to make sure they're fully informed before they sit down.

Seriously @IGetWeak you are not at fault either for going to a restaurant at a time they were still serving (they should feed you at the same standard as others or do a reduced charge) OR for getting annoyed. I cannot stand it when people get stuck on moaning about one thing and force an entire group conversation to trundle endlessly round the same route again and again. It'd be even worse with the ingratitude in the mix. Take out your anger on a Google review and maybe they'll fix the buffet...

AthWat · 24/03/2025 22:09

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 21:59

Because they could go and spend the rest of the money on cake*. And not feel like their family had been ripped off.

*Insert other desert or even healthy option of choice.

It's not their place to decide how the OP spends their money. "Their family" isn't being ripped off, if anyone is the OP is, and it's none of their business whatsoever.

You may not mind your parents interfering in this manner. I can assure you a lot of people do. So while you can of course handle that situation with your parents in whatever way you choose to, it's not incumbent on anyone else to do so. I show the same courtesy to my parents I show to other people and I expect the same in return. And I wouldnt dream, if invited out by my adult children, of behaving any differently than I would if invited out by a friend.

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 21:59

AthWat · 24/03/2025 21:50

The host was not particularly happy, but nothing could be done. How would her getting a lower price make her guests happier?

Because they could go and spend the rest of the money on cake*. And not feel like their family had been ripped off.

*Insert other desert or even healthy option of choice.

AthWat · 24/03/2025 21:50

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 21:41

I guess I don’t tend to go out for meals where it’s a ‘treat’. We just tend to take it in turns, so no, I wouldn’t really consider a close family member to be my ‘host’ and quietly put up with bad service because I was getting a ‘free’ dinner.

I take your point though, if it was a business dinner then I would keep quiet. But the organiser would seriously drop in my estimation if they didn’t ensure that everyone was happy. Using your terminology, in this case the host was happy but wasn’t bothered that her guests weren’t, which is not good manners.

The host was not particularly happy, but nothing could be done. How would her getting a lower price make her guests happier?

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 21:41

AthWat · 24/03/2025 21:12

Would you. You wouldn't have let the person paying run the situation the way they wanted to. You'd have leaped in and started trying to negotiate the price, even though the price was nothing to do with you, to the possible embarrassment of your host.

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I guess I don’t tend to go out for meals where it’s a ‘treat’. We just tend to take it in turns, so no, I wouldn’t really consider a close family member to be my ‘host’ and quietly put up with bad service because I was getting a ‘free’ dinner.

I take your point though, if it was a business dinner then I would keep quiet. But the organiser would seriously drop in my estimation if they didn’t ensure that everyone was happy. Using your terminology, in this case the host was happy but wasn’t bothered that her guests weren’t, which is not good manners.

AthWat · 24/03/2025 21:17

latetothefisting · 24/03/2025 20:12

wait, what do you mean by "running a bit low on certain things?"
There's a difference between bit low and not any!
your first posts made it sound as though you didnt get to have any of the sides like poppadoms or chutney at all, not that you got to have, say, one each but would have eaten 5. It's a bit different!

Fine, perhaps it's not a case of no chips at all, but I stand by my comment that if you're in a queue at the chippy, the person in front of you orders cod and chips and gets a big cod and large bag of about 50 chips, you order the same but get fish half the size and the last ten chips scraped from the side of the vat, it's normal to be annoyed at that and most people wouldn't just pay up and meekly go "well....we won't come here again!"

Why do you say "most people wouldn't just pay up" when the person who was complaining wasn't paying? Don't you see that is the whole point? The question isn't "is it right to complain about not having all the options at a buffet", the question is "is it right to moan constantly about the quality of a gift in the presence of the person giving it to you."

AthWat · 24/03/2025 21:12

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 20:07

It’s more like being told there’s no salt, vinegar, tomato ketchup or mushy peas.

I’m Team Dad, and would have negotiated a reduction in price before I started eating. Absolutely no reason they couldn’t have brought out a basket of popadoms & chutney.

Would you. You wouldn't have let the person paying run the situation the way they wanted to. You'd have leaped in and started trying to negotiate the price, even though the price was nothing to do with you, to the possible embarrassment of your host.

IlooklikeNigella · 24/03/2025 20:52

Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 20:07

It’s more like being told there’s no salt, vinegar, tomato ketchup or mushy peas.

I’m Team Dad, and would have negotiated a reduction in price before I started eating. Absolutely no reason they couldn’t have brought out a basket of popadoms & chutney.

Well given his price was zero pounds I don't know how he was going to organise a reduction. Or do you mean OP should have negotiated a price? It wasn't bothering her, she's not a child, she doesn't have to pander to her childish dad or join her mum in doing so.

OP I have a family member who is very high maintenance. Everybody knows it. The most annoying thing is my mum insists everybody else falls into line with it just because she knows this person won't.

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 20:50

@AthWat I'm with you and OP on the side of basic good manners and consideration which, sadly, OP's DF and too many others seem to lack. If someone else is putting their hand in their pocket to feed me, particularly at a time when everything is increasing in price, I'd show gratitude for their generosity (and be gracious enough to keep quiet about the food even if I found it lacking in any way).
I also think your final comment is particularly insightful: 'I suspect your father just believes he's always the one in charge when he is with you, because he's your father. I imagine he wouldn't do it if he was being taken out and paid for by his boss." 😊

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 20:15

wait, what do you mean by "running a bit low on certain things?"
There's a difference between bit low and not any!
your first posts made it sound as though you didnt get to have any of the sides like poppadoms or chutney at all, not that you got to have, say, one each but would have eaten 5. It's a bit different!

It’s all in the opening post.

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latetothefisting · 24/03/2025 20:12

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:58

I am so confused by some of these posts, yes it wasn’t an amazing buffet but it sounds like it wasn’t slop.

Exactly this, @Loub1987. The food was absolutely fine - it was the lack of choice that was the issue. Also, I feel personally that you accept that you won’t necessarily find your favourite dish at a buffet; that’s why it’s cheaper.

There was a post a few pages back comparing it to being served fish and chips and then being told there were no chips. I think it’s actually quite different from that. Fish and chips with no chips means you’re not getting what was described - a major element is missing. That’s not the same as a buffet running a bit low on certain things. Yes, it’s disappointing, but it’s still a buffet, which was what was advertised.

wait, what do you mean by "running a bit low on certain things?"
There's a difference between bit low and not any!
your first posts made it sound as though you didnt get to have any of the sides like poppadoms or chutney at all, not that you got to have, say, one each but would have eaten 5. It's a bit different!

Fine, perhaps it's not a case of no chips at all, but I stand by my comment that if you're in a queue at the chippy, the person in front of you orders cod and chips and gets a big cod and large bag of about 50 chips, you order the same but get fish half the size and the last ten chips scraped from the side of the vat, it's normal to be annoyed at that and most people wouldn't just pay up and meekly go "well....we won't come here again!"

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 20:10

I’m Team Dad, and would have negotiated a reduction in price before I started eating.

So you’re a psychic then?

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Shelby2010 · 24/03/2025 20:07

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:58

I am so confused by some of these posts, yes it wasn’t an amazing buffet but it sounds like it wasn’t slop.

Exactly this, @Loub1987. The food was absolutely fine - it was the lack of choice that was the issue. Also, I feel personally that you accept that you won’t necessarily find your favourite dish at a buffet; that’s why it’s cheaper.

There was a post a few pages back comparing it to being served fish and chips and then being told there were no chips. I think it’s actually quite different from that. Fish and chips with no chips means you’re not getting what was described - a major element is missing. That’s not the same as a buffet running a bit low on certain things. Yes, it’s disappointing, but it’s still a buffet, which was what was advertised.

It’s more like being told there’s no salt, vinegar, tomato ketchup or mushy peas.

I’m Team Dad, and would have negotiated a reduction in price before I started eating. Absolutely no reason they couldn’t have brought out a basket of popadoms & chutney.

Eldermilleniallyogii · 24/03/2025 20:07

AthWat · 24/03/2025 15:41

Would you ever complain about food someone else was paying for? Not about caterpillars in your soup or undercooked meat, but a lack of choices? Do you think that's ok? I think it's indescribably rude.The person paying can see there's a problem, if there's a problem. It's your duty to minimise it to avoid them feeling bad. How can so few people see this?

I think you're directing your frustration at the wrong person, love

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 20:07

You DF made some valid points

He started out by making valid points. I agreed with those points. I didn’t “shout” because of those points. I got frustrated because he refused to stop moaning.

You say you feel for my mother. Well don’t you think she’d have had less of this to deal with if maybe she’d said “Enough!” a bit more often? With back-up?

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SchoolDilemma17 · 24/03/2025 19:56

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 16:14

He had it coming! I’m not going to put up with that shit just because he’s my father.

The more of your replies I read the more you sound unreasonable. You DF made some valid points, you shouted at him and said he had it coming. You both sound irritating. I feel for you DM.

AthWat · 24/03/2025 19:18

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:58

I am so confused by some of these posts, yes it wasn’t an amazing buffet but it sounds like it wasn’t slop.

Exactly this, @Loub1987. The food was absolutely fine - it was the lack of choice that was the issue. Also, I feel personally that you accept that you won’t necessarily find your favourite dish at a buffet; that’s why it’s cheaper.

There was a post a few pages back comparing it to being served fish and chips and then being told there were no chips. I think it’s actually quite different from that. Fish and chips with no chips means you’re not getting what was described - a major element is missing. That’s not the same as a buffet running a bit low on certain things. Yes, it’s disappointing, but it’s still a buffet, which was what was advertised.

It doesn't even matter. If I was being served fish and chips and they brought me a ham sandwich and someone else was paying and had taken me there, I'd say "That's fine, I like ham sandwiches", even though I don't particularly.

If I had gone there myself and I was paying, I'd throw it at them.

I can't see why people don't get that you behave entirely differently because of the different circumstances, and that's what matters, not the quality or otherwise of the meal. Do they all fuss and moan when someone makes them a meal in their house that the chips aren't done the way they like?

I suspect your father just believes he's always the one in charge when he is with you, because he's your father. I imagine he wouldn't do it if he was being taken out and paid for by his boss.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 24/03/2025 19:00

i think you’re getting a hard time on here OP. Your Dad sounds like a pain in the arse. A complete atmosphere hoover! You all knew it was a bit rubbish, he didn’t need to go on and on about it. Why couldn’t he just accept it for what it was and have a double korma or whatever WAS on offer? It sounds like the restaurant haven’t quite got the quantities right for their new buffet offering but endless moaning wasn’t going to change that. Who knows, a gentle bit of feedback to the staff could have produced all sorts… even a voucher to come back another time. But you’ll never know because mr grumpy pants was too busy being grumpy.

Coffeeishot · 24/03/2025 18:33

My husband can be a bit like this doom spiralling is spot on ! I do tell him though or he would just go into a rant.

BogRollBOGOF · 24/03/2025 18:31

DS is wired this way. He gets short shrift and promptly told to stop doom-spiraling before he gains momentum. His opinion is noted. This is the situation. Now keep it to yourself because the only thing chuntering on will acheive is getting the rest of us annoyed with him.

It sounds like OP's mum just quietly puts up and enables him 🙄
OP YANBU to tell another adult off for poor, childish behaviour that ruins everyone else's time.

(And yes, I'd expect most food including basics like poppadoms and chutneys to be avaliable at an hour to go, and run down at about 30mins to go)

donthaveaname · 24/03/2025 18:23

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:36

I’ve decided I’m actually going to suggest this to him. Mainly because I’ve thought of a great name for the act - Papa Dom and the Chutnettes.

He can’t sing, but it won’t matter too much as, in the spirit of his behaviour, he can just learn one song and play it over and over and over until we all die.

Or Papa Dom and The Sides

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:59

(Also, we have a Chinese buffet near us that runs 1200-1600. We always book for 1500 because at the end they pack up the leftovers into tubs and you can purchase them for a pittance - every meal we have we come back with enough boxes for another 2)

There’s a place near me that does that - great idea!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:58

I am so confused by some of these posts, yes it wasn’t an amazing buffet but it sounds like it wasn’t slop.

Exactly this, @Loub1987. The food was absolutely fine - it was the lack of choice that was the issue. Also, I feel personally that you accept that you won’t necessarily find your favourite dish at a buffet; that’s why it’s cheaper.

There was a post a few pages back comparing it to being served fish and chips and then being told there were no chips. I think it’s actually quite different from that. Fish and chips with no chips means you’re not getting what was described - a major element is missing. That’s not the same as a buffet running a bit low on certain things. Yes, it’s disappointing, but it’s still a buffet, which was what was advertised.

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exLtEveDallas · 24/03/2025 17:52

I got half way through and then did what I never do, skipped to the end because I was so fed up of the Team dad posts!

DH can be like this. Moaning on and on about something that can't be changed or isn't a big issue in the scheme of things. I too finally had enough and blew up after one irritating night, but then doubled down and refused to entertain ever going to the place again (knowing fine well that once the dust had settled he would want to). It's been 10 years and he still asks if I want to go (and I refuse!)

(Also, we have a Chinese buffet near us that runs 1200-1600. We always book for 1500 because at the end they pack up the leftovers into tubs and you can purchase them for a pittance - every meal we have we come back with enough boxes for another 2)