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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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ElizaDolittle4321 · 25/03/2025 06:50

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IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 06:47

Weren’t you? That wasn’t in your op.

Neither was the fact that I have curly hair or that I was wearing a blue coat. Should I have specified that too?

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Well given the number of posters here who’ve said they would expect it to be replenished well beyond that, it clearly isn’t “common sense”, is it? The clue is in the word “common”.

So you know where you can shove your childish little “FFS”, don’t you? Maybe with a big gob of mango chutney to smooth it on its way!

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GuevarasBeret · 25/03/2025 06:41

@DancingOctopus this thread really gives an insight into how awful some people are. How many have said “Yes, I would complain like your Dad, and continue to complain until I had worked out all of my indignation.”

Absolutely do not apologize. The fact that the buffet was disappointing does not make it OK for whine on for hours… being an absolute dick.

I would hold my ground. He didn’t care that he spoiled your afternoon and expected your adoration for him going on. A teenager saying what he did, would be put straight very very quickly. All conversations need to start with There will be no apology.

SepticCess · 25/03/2025 05:58

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:45

I'd probably have a little grumble, move on and make a note not to visit at that time of day again.

Exactly! I’m not disputing that it was a bit crap, and I wouldn’t go at that time again. But actually complain properly when the bill comes if it’s that big an issue, or accept that you don’t want to go again and don’t keep on!

I agree. His constant moaning after it had been discussed is infantile given the circumstances.

They both sound exhausting though!

arcticpandas · 25/03/2025 04:50

I think what everyone is missing out on here is that it was OP who invited her parents ! If I'm invited somewhere I 🤐 even if I'm slightly disappointed of the menu/buffet. Especially if it's my dc taking me out. And if my dh would moan in this situation I would tell him to shut up or leave because it's rude and he's being ungreatful towards his child.

Poor @IGetWeak , no good deed goes unpunished. I would be annoyed with both of your parents ; your father because he acted like an immature toddler and your mother for not backing you up. Next time bring a friend. Or, having read some of the posters here that would act just like your dad, perhaps enjoy a solo meal. No whining on the menu guaranteed.

Mudkipper · 25/03/2025 04:36

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 17:24

To be fair I see his point. The moment you found out nothing else is coming I’d have walked out and gone somewhere else to have a proper lunch.

Where? We weren’t in the restaurant quarter of a major capital city. Factor in to that that presumably we’d have had to have at least some sort of discussion with the restaurant before walking out without paying for what we’d already eaten, and suddenly a late lunch becomes an early dinner.

Weren’t you? That wasn’t in your op. I was on your side to begin with but you’re being so unpleasant and aggressive to everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly agree with you, I’m now sympathising with your dad.

iseenyouwithkefir · 25/03/2025 04:36

In this case, I'd tell your dad you've complained already and are waiting to see how much you get back - based, of course, on how much your party appears to love the food they do have a chance to eat.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 25/03/2025 04:33

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Common sense would tell one that restaurants shouldn't seat a table of people and charge them full price if they're not going to serve what has been advertised.

How do you know they aren't still in the kitchen preparing for dinner service? It's really up to them to manage expectations of their customers, not for customers to know the ins and outs of how they operate.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 25/03/2025 04:30

I get the feeling you don't want opinions other than your own, but I do think you should have pressed a bit harder - upgraded from 'asked' to 'insisted'. They might have run out of hot dishes but there was nothing stopping them bringing out some chutney for you and cooking a few more pappadums.

I'm not suggesting you should have gone full rage mode on them, but IMO you should have raised it as a problem you expected them to fix. Unfortunately I think that difficult conversation does fall to the organiser/payer of the meal so your DF was probably frustrated that you were happy to let it go and have everyone eat a substandard meal when a bit of assertiveness almost certainly would have improved things.

Marchitectmummy · 25/03/2025 04:07

Did you pay full price for the buffet? Maybe that's the issue he is frustrated at being treated with contempt by thr restaurant. I wouldn't have paid full price for a buffet that's winding down an hour before the offer ends. You should have been warned by the waiter when ordering that what you see is what you get.

Thedownsideisup · 25/03/2025 04:04

I think you and your dad are both a little bit in the wrong here. It's not clear from your posts whether/at what point you complained to the restaurant. I would have said to them that if I'm paying for a full buffet I expect to receive one and that would include sides, chutneys, etc. I would have asked them what they intend to do to make it right. I would have told them how disappointed we all were. Did you say any of these things? And yes actually I do ask to take a look at the buffet before I sit down at a buffet restaurant.

But your dad shouldn't have kept going on and on about it. As your guest that was very rude of him. His behaviour was worse than yours and he's more in the wrong, but I don't think any of you handled the situation particularly well. And when people are hungry it's even more likely they'll get ratty and annoyed.

Also your dad has form for this kind of behaviour which means your annoyance and resentment has built up over time - over your lifetime, pretty much. It's not just a one-off which makes it that much harder to tolerate.

Tbrh · 25/03/2025 03:56

PsychoHotSauce · 24/03/2025 12:37

If you arrive at a buffet towards the end, there would be a tonne of waste if they kept replacing dishes right up until 4pm. It's kind of common sense. I bet the reviews mention this but OP didn't check (assumption from me OP, sorry!)?

There's no excuse to keep going on and on about it though and ruining the meal for everyone else. Mention your disappointment once and suggest going earlier next time or whatever.

I agree. I think going at 3 was risky as that's really the last 'serving'

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NattyTurtle59 · 25/03/2025 03:20

PsychoHotSauce · 24/03/2025 12:37

If you arrive at a buffet towards the end, there would be a tonne of waste if they kept replacing dishes right up until 4pm. It's kind of common sense. I bet the reviews mention this but OP didn't check (assumption from me OP, sorry!)?

There's no excuse to keep going on and on about it though and ruining the meal for everyone else. Mention your disappointment once and suggest going earlier next time or whatever.

Seriously? I used to go to a buffet every Sunday, there was just as much food at the end as there was at the start. If a buffet finishes at 4 pm there should still be enough food left for anyone arriving up until 4 pm - you don't start winding down over an hour before the place is due to close the doors.

I agree the continual moaning would be annoying, but I would have been complaining to the owners.

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RawBloomers · 25/03/2025 01:09

IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 00:41

I promised a treat and it wasn't so I'd try and save things somehow.

You're taking “treat” the wrong way (as have some other posters). It wasn’t meant to be a special event - it was literally just “my treat” in the sense that I suggested it and was paying.

I have been in restaurants where it was supposed to be special but was actually spectacularly shit and we've generally coped by indulging some shared outrage and making fun of it a bit. Not getting annoyed at people being annoyed.

It wasn’t supposed to be special and it wasn’t spectacularly shit.

If you don’t want to use any refund on your parents, that’s up to you. But you asked what you could have done.And if you’re paying, you’re the one who can negotiate with the restaurant and are in a position to try and insist on better treatment. Not your father.

An Indian curry buffet with no poppadoms, sauces or side dishes sounds pretty shit and from this thread that’s clearly not a niche position. Quibbling about the superlatives is just avoiding the point.

Gingerbreadloony · 25/03/2025 01:08

My mother was like this and I feel the OP’s weariness! If she wasn’t happy with something we’d have to hear about over and over until someone sharply told her to let it go because she’d drag everyone else down and ruin whatever we were doing. She simply HAD to be heard. Most frustrating esp when it’s a simple lunch or dinner, not a special/expensive occasion.

Itrtttyy · 25/03/2025 01:04

OP, I feel for your frustration with this thread.

You ask one question and people answer another.

YANBU about your father.

Try and have some sympathy with the multitude of posters who have failed to understand your not particularly complex post and are advising you to develop psychic abilities, criticising your for paying or, particularly unfathomably, explaining that they agree with your father.

Some people are stupid and they can’t help that.

zestylemonlime · 25/03/2025 00:48

I feel some places are massive rip-offs these days with not advising of food shortages or why a menu item has changed but still charge the full price.

That place should have these popular items on hand at least to 10 minutes before the end of lunch service.

IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 00:41

I promised a treat and it wasn't so I'd try and save things somehow.

You're taking “treat” the wrong way (as have some other posters). It wasn’t meant to be a special event - it was literally just “my treat” in the sense that I suggested it and was paying.

I have been in restaurants where it was supposed to be special but was actually spectacularly shit and we've generally coped by indulging some shared outrage and making fun of it a bit. Not getting annoyed at people being annoyed.

It wasn’t supposed to be special and it wasn’t spectacularly shit.

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RawBloomers · 24/03/2025 23:51

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 23:05

I take your point though, if it was a business dinner then I would keep quiet. But the organiser would seriously drop in my estimation if they didn’t ensure that everyone was happy. Using your terminology, in this case the host was happy but wasn’t bothered that her guests weren’t, which is not good manners.

But what would you have had me do? I am not the poppadom fairy. I cannot magic side dishes from thin air. We’d sat down, we’d ordered, we’d started eating… then we realised this was it. No replenishment.

No one was served anything undercooked, burnt or that could have given them food poisoning. It was a mildly disappointing meal. They happen in restaurants globally every day. How I’m a “bad host” or have “bad manners” because of something I could not control is beyond me. What IS bad manners is to spend the entire meal complaining, even when your fellow diners have told you more than once to leave it.

Normally in that sort of situation I'd have got up and asked to speak with the manager to one side to see if I could persuade them to cook something else for us or to get a significant discount (with which I could then promise to take Dad out for a beer/ice cream/box of chocolate frogs after). I promised a treat and it wasn't so I'd try and save things somehow.

I understand that you don't like the repeated whinging and if your dad has form in other scenarios I see why you were primed to want to immediately shut him down. But I don't think just nodding grimly and changing the subject is a particularly good way to handle a disappointment like that that's ongoing. Especially if you and your mum were chatting away and he was a bit of a gooseberry with nothing else to focus on (which I realise may not have been how things went, but it sounded like a possibility from one of your posts). I have been in restaurants where it was supposed to be special but was actually spectacularly shit and we've generally coped by indulging some shared outrage and making fun of it a bit. Not getting annoyed at people being annoyed.

Ilikeadrink14 · 24/03/2025 23:30

Ilikeadrink14 · 24/03/2025 14:44

I totally agree with your Dad’s anger, but not his reaction, which clearly spoiled it for everyone else. However, maybe this was expected to be a real treat for him assuming he doesn’t go out for meals that often and he felt really disappointed.
The restaurant is clearly at fault for not having a full menu and should be called out in their bad management. I would never go there again if it were me.
I feel sorry for your dad. Is there another restaurant you could take him to, so he could have an enjoyable meal? It seems a shame that he as so disappointed. If my favourite dish’s weren’t available, I’d be very annoyed and disappointed too.

Dishes, not dish’s! Flipping auto!