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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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JoBrandsCleaner · 25/03/2025 20:14

Yes I often say to people that I’m putting up with whatever it is as well, but I’m being twined at on top of it 😬

Sharptonguedwoman · 25/03/2025 20:14

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 19:22

I would not be able to control my sulking if I went for an Indian buffet and they had packed the veggie sides, poppadoms and chutney away. Team dad.

Sulking as an adult is pathetic and unacceptable. I wouldn't be taking you anywhere again.

Sharptonguedwoman · 25/03/2025 20:12

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:10

I feel sorry for your dad. Is there another restaurant you could take him to, so he could have an enjoyable meal? It seems a shame that he as so disappointed. If my favourite dish’s weren’t available, I’d be very annoyed and disappointed too.

Would you reward a child who stamped their feet and cried because they didn’t like their dinner?

At least a child knows no better.

Dear God. At 3pm on a Sunday afternoon? Nowhere open at that time where I live.

GuevarasBeret · 25/03/2025 20:05

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 19:22

I would not be able to control my sulking if I went for an Indian buffet and they had packed the veggie sides, poppadoms and chutney away. Team dad.

Well as you say -sulking. It’s a very unpleasant habit, and adults subjected to it throughout their childhood tend to give it very short shrift.

Prepare for your children to give you the same response one day, and to roll their eyes at you acting the cry bully afterwards.

asrl78 · 25/03/2025 19:35

HundredMilesAnHour · 24/03/2025 12:53

Your Dad sounds like a pain in the neck but going at 3pm really was a stupid idea. Using some common sense would have avoided all this drama and falling out.

I disagree. If I were going to a buffet at 3 pm advertised as being available from 12-4pm I would expect the full selection to be available. It sounds like a common issue in SE England where they fail to anticipate demand and fail to get enough food in, like my local Tesco that has run out of something I want at least three quarters of the time I shop there.

Having said that the correct thing to do after having a quick moan with each other is to make a formal complaint to the manager and demand a reduction on the bill on the basis that they didn't get what they paid for. The wrong thing to do is whinge on and on and on and on to the rest of your company and piss everyone off, so I think the OP's response to the father was reasonable. If gobshites never get called out they will forever be gobshites inflicting annoyance everywhere they go. The problem in this country is people are so quick to leap on the retaliation whilst completely ignoring or even trying to trivialise/justify the provocation, which ultimately provides an ideal environment for bullies to thrive (and probably why we have so many thoughtless antagonistic people in society).

Lollipop81 · 25/03/2025 19:31

PsychoHotSauce · 24/03/2025 12:37

If you arrive at a buffet towards the end, there would be a tonne of waste if they kept replacing dishes right up until 4pm. It's kind of common sense. I bet the reviews mention this but OP didn't check (assumption from me OP, sorry!)?

There's no excuse to keep going on and on about it though and ruining the meal for everyone else. Mention your disappointment once and suggest going earlier next time or whatever.

Well possibly but I would expect poppadoms to be brought out when asked and they should have offered to make something fresh for them if there wasn’t enough food available. If your charging for something then you have to provide it.

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 19:22

I would not be able to control my sulking if I went for an Indian buffet and they had packed the veggie sides, poppadoms and chutney away. Team dad.

IlooklikeNigella · 25/03/2025 15:28

rookiemere · 25/03/2025 12:47

It’s amazing how assertive OP is being with any posters who question anything, but was unable to do anything when the waiter explained that none of the usual accoutrements for an Indian meal - poppadums, mango chutney, veg sides etc. - were available because it was a full hour before the buffet closed.
I avoid confrontation at all cost, but as the meal organiser at that point I would have asked to speak to the manager to ideally get the items refilled, or get a significant discount on the meal. It seems like a preferable option to shouting at one of the invited party who may be moaning, but simply expect to be able to enjoy the meal as it usually is.

It's not amazing at all. She WAS being assertive in the restaurant by not allowing her dad bully her into action that she didn't think was warranted. She thought the buffet was alright, not great. She thought his behaviour was abhorrent so after attempting to politely make it stop she stood up to him.

You really seem quite confused. Being assertive does not mean losing the ability to make decisions for yourself.

AthWat · 25/03/2025 15:20

rookiemere · 25/03/2025 12:47

It’s amazing how assertive OP is being with any posters who question anything, but was unable to do anything when the waiter explained that none of the usual accoutrements for an Indian meal - poppadums, mango chutney, veg sides etc. - were available because it was a full hour before the buffet closed.
I avoid confrontation at all cost, but as the meal organiser at that point I would have asked to speak to the manager to ideally get the items refilled, or get a significant discount on the meal. It seems like a preferable option to shouting at one of the invited party who may be moaning, but simply expect to be able to enjoy the meal as it usually is.

Once again, what has whether the OP asked for a discount got to do with her father's behaviour? He wasn't getting a discount, and it was none of his business whether she did or not and would have had no impact on his enjoyment or otherwise of the meal.

rookiemere · 25/03/2025 12:47

It’s amazing how assertive OP is being with any posters who question anything, but was unable to do anything when the waiter explained that none of the usual accoutrements for an Indian meal - poppadums, mango chutney, veg sides etc. - were available because it was a full hour before the buffet closed.
I avoid confrontation at all cost, but as the meal organiser at that point I would have asked to speak to the manager to ideally get the items refilled, or get a significant discount on the meal. It seems like a preferable option to shouting at one of the invited party who may be moaning, but simply expect to be able to enjoy the meal as it usually is.

IlooklikeNigella · 25/03/2025 08:46

Stepfordian · 25/03/2025 08:34

OP I understand, my mum is exactly the same and she’ll bring up the complaints for years afterwards, there are shops I dread walking past with her because just the shop sign will start her off about how a shop assistant was rude to her in there 20 years ago, her life is a never ending cycle of complaints.

Oh dear.

Again, so like my dad. I would tease him, tell him I knew the ending to the story or point out it was 35 years ago and still it was the same rant over and over.

He died absolutely miserable after months in hospital which he spent ranting about all the hardship he had suffered; people pulling out in front of him in traffic and so forth.

I find myself being quite hard on DH when he starts with the ranting no matter how harmless it seems. It gets worse with age and sucks everyone else in all around.

Stepfordian · 25/03/2025 08:34

OP I understand, my mum is exactly the same and she’ll bring up the complaints for years afterwards, there are shops I dread walking past with her because just the shop sign will start her off about how a shop assistant was rude to her in there 20 years ago, her life is a never ending cycle of complaints.

NeedToChangeName · 25/03/2025 07:41

If this happens again, when your Dad keeps repeating himself, I suggest replying - and repeating exact same words each time - "yes Dad, it's disappointing. What would you like me to do about it?"

This gives the superficial impression that you're trying to help, but also forces him to admit that there's nothing you can do

As an aside, I think was a mistake to arrive at 3pm. I'd expect it to be winding down. But astonished that an indian restaurant can't rustle up some poppadoms. That's v poor service

AthWat · 25/03/2025 07:39

Shelby2010 · 25/03/2025 07:34

But this is AIBU. So you don’t get the answer to your question - you get the answer to the question you should have asked. Plus some random & irrelevant advice.

So;
Dad was unreasonable to keep moaning.

Anyone dismissing the importance of poppadoms is being unreasonable.

The restaurant is being unreasonable to stop replenishing the buffet a whole hour before it closes.

The OP should consider wearing a different colour coat now it’s Spring, but won’t necessarily be judged as unreasonable until we have more details about the parking situation which the OP has been suspiciously quiet about.

Do you think they "should have asked" the question about whether the buffet was adequate (one they had already answered themselves in the OP) rather than the question about their father's behaviour and if so, why?

Constantly restating the bleeding obvious (the buffet wasn't very good) seems pointless to me but if people want to say that, they have every right. What they don't have the right to do, without pushback, is to say it as though it is an answer to the OP's actual question.

arcticpandas · 25/03/2025 07:35

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OP is just not a doormat except when it comes to her parents perhaps 😉 accepting people to treat her like an idiot when clearly she's not the only one to expect a buffet to be replenished at 15 if they close at 16 h. If some of you would express your opinions in a friendlier tone you will get friendlier responses from the OP as well.

Shelby2010 · 25/03/2025 07:34

AthWat · 25/03/2025 07:18

It's not that people don't agree with them, it's that people are completely missing the point. It's not "was it right to complain about this service", it's "was it right to moan constantly when someone has taken you to a restaurant and is paying". Anyone saying "But I would have wanted popadoms!" simply doesn't get it. This is about consideration for others and being able to look outside oneself. Not about whether side dishes should be served at a buffet.

But this is AIBU. So you don’t get the answer to your question - you get the answer to the question you should have asked. Plus some random & irrelevant advice.

So;
Dad was unreasonable to keep moaning.

Anyone dismissing the importance of poppadoms is being unreasonable.

The restaurant is being unreasonable to stop replenishing the buffet a whole hour before it closes.

The OP should consider wearing a different colour coat now it’s Spring, but won’t necessarily be judged as unreasonable until we have more details about the parking situation which the OP has been suspiciously quiet about.

IlooklikeNigella · 25/03/2025 07:32

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AthWat · 25/03/2025 07:29

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To be fair, if you are going to reply to someone
"Um, common sense? It was 3pm an hour before closing, ffs."
Then I am not sure why you are clutching your pearls when they don't take that as a piece of friendly and constructive advice.

ElizaDolittle4321 · 25/03/2025 07:26

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IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 07:20

AthWat · 25/03/2025 07:18

It's not that people don't agree with them, it's that people are completely missing the point. It's not "was it right to complain about this service", it's "was it right to moan constantly when someone has taken you to a restaurant and is paying". Anyone saying "But I would have wanted popadoms!" simply doesn't get it. This is about consideration for others and being able to look outside oneself. Not about whether side dishes should be served at a buffet.

Precisely! It’s worrying how many MNers fail to grasp key points.

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IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 07:19

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Yeah, no one ever bites back at people creating posts about how stupid they are, do they?

Save the wounded angel act. It doesn’t wash. We can all see what you wrote.

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AthWat · 25/03/2025 07:18

Mudkipper · 25/03/2025 04:36

Weren’t you? That wasn’t in your op. I was on your side to begin with but you’re being so unpleasant and aggressive to everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly agree with you, I’m now sympathising with your dad.

It's not that people don't agree with them, it's that people are completely missing the point. It's not "was it right to complain about this service", it's "was it right to moan constantly when someone has taken you to a restaurant and is paying". Anyone saying "But I would have wanted popadoms!" simply doesn't get it. This is about consideration for others and being able to look outside oneself. Not about whether side dishes should be served at a buffet.

ElizaDolittle4321 · 25/03/2025 07:14

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IGetWeak · 25/03/2025 07:11

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Ha! Have you ever read any of your own posts?!

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