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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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AngelicKaty · 26/03/2025 09:57

@diagnosisdisco 🥱

diagnosisdisco · 26/03/2025 09:55

AthWat · 26/03/2025 09:34

You still don't seem to get it.

The thread is about whether a hosted person has the right to sulk, moan and throw a tantrum. Your experience is entirely irrelevant to that.

As I suggested before, I believe you've essentially simply not read the OP properly and come down in a position you don't actually hold.

"Team dad" is not "it's ok to complain at bad meals in restaurants", "team dad" is "it's ok for an adult to ruin a meal for everyone by constant moaning and sulking because they are a little disappointed". Can we assume you don't think it's ok to do that? If so, then you are not "team dad", and you shouldn't have said you were, and that's the reason you've got comments you think are a bit over the top.

Edited

I really do get it. I really do.

The father is described as someone who repeats himself excessively, especially when something annoys him. In this case, he fixated on the lack of buffet items, repeating the complaint in different ways throughout the meal. He wasn’t abusive or aggressive, but he was emotionally persistent, undermining the enjoyment of the meal. When asked to stop, he replied: “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” Eventually, OP snaps and raises her voice to shut it down.

The aftermath? He goes quiet. Mum blames OP for the conflict. And OP feels like again, her father’s behaviour gets a free pass while she’s held responsible for managing everyone's emotional landscape.

There are no winners here, but all of this to me screams cognitive decline, depression, and yes, a bit of bad behaviour, and it is behaviour that I have been forgiving of in relatives facing that situation. My own grandmother was just like this, and in particular on meals out for some reason - so it resonates a lot. I snapped once, and I was nasty because I lost control of my own emotions in the moment. I have regretted that every single day since she passed. Objectively, I know she was being a nob, but then I gave back worse by snapping when I could have looked beyond the behaviour and been kind.

So I reserve the right for a little sulk now and then; I am forgiving of a little sulkiness in my loved ones, as they are of me.

I have NO BEEF with anyone on here, because there are no winners and once again, my response was light-hearted because the fact is a buffet without half the menu is pretty crap!

AthWat · 26/03/2025 09:34

diagnosisdisco · 26/03/2025 09:17

Blimey.

All that over a tongue-in-cheek comment about poppadoms and chutney? I wasn’t expecting to be diagnosed with a personality disorder because I admitted I’d be a bit gutted if a buffet wound down before I got to the veggie sides.

Just to clarify – I didn’t throw my cutlery, shout at the staff, or lie on the floor kicking and screaming for mango chutney. I made a light-hearted comment on a social forum because yes, if I’d paid for a meal out and found it disappointing, I’d feel a bit… disappointed. That’s not immature “sulking” – it’s human. And frankly, if a poppadom shortage is now grounds for a public character assassination, I fear for us all.

For what it’s worth, last year I hosted a big group of family and extended relatives out for my husband’s birthday. It was expensive. It was also absolutely shit. We smiled, we thanked the waiters, we left a tip. No drama. But I also called it – “Is anyone else's meal as utterly shit as mine?” – and suddenly everyone could relax, because their meals were also rubbish, and my dad had been itching to say something but politeness was holding him back even though I could see it written on his face. No silent resentment, no pretending. We had a good laugh, salvaged the evening, and no one was scarred for life.

I don’t think that makes me emotionally stunted or destined for estrangement from my kids. I think it means I know how to read a room, name a mood, and clear the air.

And let’s also take a moment for the fact that some of our older relatives – the ones who seem to be “banging on” about things – might be doing so because they’re lonely, or low, or yes, maybe even facing a bit of cognitive decline. It doesn’t mean they aren’t annoying at times (God knows they can be), but responding with empathy instead of sanctimony might actually help everyone enjoy their meal more. My grandmother RIP could be a right nobber when we went out to eat, recognising that bad behaviour is sometimes an illustration of things slipping away from someone can be a great act of compassion.

Honestly, the energy on here sometimes. I cracked a joke about missing my mango chutney, not declared war on politeness, parenting, and civilisation.

So, to @GuevarasBeret @IGetWeak and @AngelicKaty thanks to each of you for taking the time to reply to my one tiny comment on the thread. I genuinely didn’t expect it to provoke quite so much depth of feeling!

Just to say – I absolutely wasn’t trying to glorify bad manners or prolonged sulking (we’ve all sat through that meal with that relative). I was just poking fun at how gutted I’d personally be if I turned up for an Indian buffet and the good stuff had already gone. For me, it was more about sharing a small, relatable disappointment than advocating for a five-day strop over poppadoms.

I know tone can be hard to read online, and everyone brings their own life experience to these threads – which is what makes Mumsnet such a great space when it works well. I do think we could all, from time to time, extend each other a bit more grace. It’s entirely possible to challenge or disagree without jumping to conclusions about someone’s emotional development, parenting future, or moral compass.

So – no hard feelings from my side, and I’m always up for a good-natured debate about the true MVP of the Indian buffet. (It’s mango chutney. Obviously.)

Wishing you all a peaceful week – and may your next curry be hot, fresh, and fully stocked.

You still don't seem to get it.

The thread is about whether a hosted person has the right to sulk, moan and throw a tantrum. Your experience is entirely irrelevant to that.

As I suggested before, I believe you've essentially simply not read the OP properly and come down in a position you don't actually hold.

"Team dad" is not "it's ok to complain at bad meals in restaurants", "team dad" is "it's ok for an adult to ruin a meal for everyone by constant moaning and sulking because they are a little disappointed". Can we assume you don't think it's ok to do that? If so, then you are not "team dad", and you shouldn't have said you were, and that's the reason you've got comments you think are a bit over the top.

diagnosisdisco · 26/03/2025 09:17

Blimey.

All that over a tongue-in-cheek comment about poppadoms and chutney? I wasn’t expecting to be diagnosed with a personality disorder because I admitted I’d be a bit gutted if a buffet wound down before I got to the veggie sides.

Just to clarify – I didn’t throw my cutlery, shout at the staff, or lie on the floor kicking and screaming for mango chutney. I made a light-hearted comment on a social forum because yes, if I’d paid for a meal out and found it disappointing, I’d feel a bit… disappointed. That’s not immature “sulking” – it’s human. And frankly, if a poppadom shortage is now grounds for a public character assassination, I fear for us all.

For what it’s worth, last year I hosted a big group of family and extended relatives out for my husband’s birthday. It was expensive. It was also absolutely shit. We smiled, we thanked the waiters, we left a tip. No drama. But I also called it – “Is anyone else's meal as utterly shit as mine?” – and suddenly everyone could relax, because their meals were also rubbish, and my dad had been itching to say something but politeness was holding him back even though I could see it written on his face. No silent resentment, no pretending. We had a good laugh, salvaged the evening, and no one was scarred for life.

I don’t think that makes me emotionally stunted or destined for estrangement from my kids. I think it means I know how to read a room, name a mood, and clear the air.

And let’s also take a moment for the fact that some of our older relatives – the ones who seem to be “banging on” about things – might be doing so because they’re lonely, or low, or yes, maybe even facing a bit of cognitive decline. It doesn’t mean they aren’t annoying at times (God knows they can be), but responding with empathy instead of sanctimony might actually help everyone enjoy their meal more. My grandmother RIP could be a right nobber when we went out to eat, recognising that bad behaviour is sometimes an illustration of things slipping away from someone can be a great act of compassion.

Honestly, the energy on here sometimes. I cracked a joke about missing my mango chutney, not declared war on politeness, parenting, and civilisation.

So, to @GuevarasBeret @IGetWeak and @AngelicKaty thanks to each of you for taking the time to reply to my one tiny comment on the thread. I genuinely didn’t expect it to provoke quite so much depth of feeling!

Just to say – I absolutely wasn’t trying to glorify bad manners or prolonged sulking (we’ve all sat through that meal with that relative). I was just poking fun at how gutted I’d personally be if I turned up for an Indian buffet and the good stuff had already gone. For me, it was more about sharing a small, relatable disappointment than advocating for a five-day strop over poppadoms.

I know tone can be hard to read online, and everyone brings their own life experience to these threads – which is what makes Mumsnet such a great space when it works well. I do think we could all, from time to time, extend each other a bit more grace. It’s entirely possible to challenge or disagree without jumping to conclusions about someone’s emotional development, parenting future, or moral compass.

So – no hard feelings from my side, and I’m always up for a good-natured debate about the true MVP of the Indian buffet. (It’s mango chutney. Obviously.)

Wishing you all a peaceful week – and may your next curry be hot, fresh, and fully stocked.

koffee with karan sulking GIF
AngelicKaty · 26/03/2025 08:22

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 19:22

I would not be able to control my sulking if I went for an Indian buffet and they had packed the veggie sides, poppadoms and chutney away. Team dad.

Seriously? I'd be annoyed if there was no rice, curries and naan bread - you know, the food that is actually "the meal" and stops you going home hungry. However, whatever was "lacking" I would neither complain or sulk (what normal, fully-grown adult sulks FFS,?) when someone else is footing the bill! Particularly when that someone is a person I care about and whose feelings I wouldn't want to hurt by going on, ad nauseum, about it.
There are far too many adults (allegedly) on here who need to grow up and stop using sulking as a weapon. You wouldn't tolerate it in your kids, so why do you think it's acceptable in your own behaviour?

CMZ2018 · 26/03/2025 07:23

I don’t blame him it sounds horrendous

RareFatball · 26/03/2025 05:50

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 24/03/2025 12:31

I would be as annoyed as he was tbh! In fact I probably would have refused to eat there. If they run until a certain time then all the dishes should be available until that time!

Absolutely, to not replenish empty trays an hour before their buffet time ends is ridiculous.
I would not have stayed to eat.

daleylama · 26/03/2025 02:11

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:49

We did ask. That’s how we knew they weren’t bringing any more out. It’s in my OP.

Cheeky! They should have given you a discount. Your papa sounds insufferable.

AlGoreRhythm · 26/03/2025 01:40

Sorry @IGetWeak you're getting a lot of shit on here.
I totally get where you're coming from. It's fine to be disappointed but ffs you don't have to keep repeating yourself. I have a similar person and they do wear you down. No good deed....

IGetWeak · 26/03/2025 00:21

ZenNudist · 25/03/2025 21:06

I'd leave an honest review. I agree with your dad. I wouldn't have been able to stop commenting either.

Then you need to become an adult. An adult should be able to control themselves.

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IGetWeak · 26/03/2025 00:21

MrsKeats · 25/03/2025 20:25

Your dad sounds super annoying. However, what I find interesting is how you managed a late breakfast, a late lunch and then a buffet!
Did you get up at 3am Confused

The buffet WAS the late lunch!

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IGetWeak · 26/03/2025 00:18

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 19:22

I would not be able to control my sulking if I went for an Indian buffet and they had packed the veggie sides, poppadoms and chutney away. Team dad.

You need to grow up then.

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AthWat · 25/03/2025 23:04

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 20:21

I mean... I was being light hearted but I'll keep an eye out for the complete break down of relations with my adult children over a curry...although I think they would probably be equally disappointed at a buffet that stopped serving an hour before closing the door to diners...
Having grown up poor I do feel disappointed if a meal out is not lovely, and this meal sounds like it was leftovers.

They might be disappointed. You do get it's not about whether disappointment is warranted , yes? It's about whether a mild disappointment warrants an adult being "unable to control" their sulking and moaning to the detriment of everybody around them. At the moment you are claiming proudly that you would act like a five year old in such circumstances. Are you really sure you would, and are you really sure you're proud of that?

Back21970 · 25/03/2025 22:22

I never thought this thread would be so amusing.

Several posters seem to be missing the point and making the OP sound heartless and an idiot to boot for going in the first place.

I totally get where you are coming from OP, that behaviour sounds insufferable, not surprising you snapped.

I imagine unfortunately that your Dad will dine out (excuse the pun) on this experience for a long time 🤣

Shelby2010 · 25/03/2025 22:04

Blades2 · 25/03/2025 20:29

“Poppadom Expelliamus”

Your dads a miserable old bugger.

Try “Accio” for poppadom summoning - otherwise you’ll just send them flying! 🤣

GuevarasBeret · 25/03/2025 21:55

ZenNudist · 25/03/2025 21:06

I'd leave an honest review. I agree with your dad. I wouldn't have been able to stop commenting either.

Perhaps, read the OP again so that you can have a think about the impact your comments are having on your companions.

He wanted a discount on a dinner he wasn’t paying for! What a cheek!
Something didn’t go to plan? Learn to cope with it.

GuevarasBeret · 25/03/2025 21:50

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 20:21

I mean... I was being light hearted but I'll keep an eye out for the complete break down of relations with my adult children over a curry...although I think they would probably be equally disappointed at a buffet that stopped serving an hour before closing the door to diners...
Having grown up poor I do feel disappointed if a meal out is not lovely, and this meal sounds like it was leftovers.

We all understand the feeling of disappointment…. it’s being old enough to have adult children and reacting by sulking to life’s minor vicissitudes that’s the issue. If nothing else, it’s a habit I’d be mortified to see I’d modeled to my children.

Second of all- someone else was paying the bill, in those instances it is really quite ill mannered to keep going on about it.

ZenNudist · 25/03/2025 21:06

I'd leave an honest review. I agree with your dad. I wouldn't have been able to stop commenting either.

LuckySantangelo35 · 25/03/2025 21:03

It sounds like a shit buffet

Girlsjustwannahavefunno1 · 25/03/2025 20:30

I think restaurants do run out of food.
Your dad sounds excruciating though, like a dog with a bone. I do see his point. But I think I'd be the one asking for a few more poppadoms or some alternatives. How much was it? Like £15 -20 pp ...OK.., i guess I would still be pissed off though ...£35-40 I would the the one politely requesting a refund/some food comped etc.

Blades2 · 25/03/2025 20:29

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:07

What was I going to do about it? Cast a magic poppadom spell?

“Poppadom Expelliamus”

Your dads a miserable old bugger.

Familysquabbles23 · 25/03/2025 20:27

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:53

🙄🙄🙄

That totally p's me off.
If you advertise something til 4pm that's when you should serve to..
If its last orders 3pm I want to know before I choose to arrive at 3pm..
If its subject to availability I want to know that too.
Don't advertise 'til 4pm' if you don't mean it.

MrsKeats · 25/03/2025 20:25

Your dad sounds super annoying. However, what I find interesting is how you managed a late breakfast, a late lunch and then a buffet!
Did you get up at 3am Confused

DeedlessIndeed · 25/03/2025 20:23

IMO if you are treated to a meal out, even if it turns into a bit of a disaster, you say thank you (and make a mental note to decline future invitations to that spot).

You don't make the host feel like shit by non-stop complaining. It's up to the host to decide whether or not they want to make a formal complaint.

Frankly I think I'd just make a bit of a joke if it was that bad and then move on. It's a buffet meal. Not a state banquet.

diagnosisdisco · 25/03/2025 20:21

GuevarasBeret · 25/03/2025 20:05

Well as you say -sulking. It’s a very unpleasant habit, and adults subjected to it throughout their childhood tend to give it very short shrift.

Prepare for your children to give you the same response one day, and to roll their eyes at you acting the cry bully afterwards.

I mean... I was being light hearted but I'll keep an eye out for the complete break down of relations with my adult children over a curry...although I think they would probably be equally disappointed at a buffet that stopped serving an hour before closing the door to diners...
Having grown up poor I do feel disappointed if a meal out is not lovely, and this meal sounds like it was leftovers.