STOP calling people "a Karen"

Funnily enough I do think it's my place to
"call out" (awful term) people
using the term Karen.

we all have our own experiences but mine is
that it is used to make women wheesht

and used by the hard of
thinking
thats my experience.

yes, people who do what she did to me are fucking stupid.

If you have any issue with that, i suggest you become disabled enough to need a blue badge, then experience some horrendous arsehole challenging you over it like they're entitled to do so, and also know better than you do.

I'll call her an ableist cunt next time, how's that?

"...lady of a certain age"

so ageism too

yes, you definitely fit the stereotype of people that use the term Karen.

if you'd called me that I'd have told you to fuck off. I'm sure you'd have no trouble understanding that

The point you miss is that I could go to a cafe for lunch now, be served inedible food, politely but discretely ask a waiter to replace it and I will likely be called a Karen. Either to my face or behind my back.

You are BU unreasonable if you think using this slur so casually is ok based on the behaviour of a few horribly behaved women you have seen on for all you know, edited and out of context a few Tik Toks

Ahhhh. So you have to be stupid to understand it, as well as use it

got you

Again. Just call them racist or rude or entitled (whatever that actually means). It’s far more powerful than a thinly veiled insult.

I have worked with the public for years and yes sometimes people are rude and horrible, but its never been a middle aged women with a bob more then anyone else.

Oh dear. Okay, so you find it offensive. So what? The world doesn’t stop turning. Just move on with your life.

I will, but I won't be behaving in the way middle aged women with bob haircuts behave which is what caused the phrase to be coined in the first place.

People aren't called a Karen for being old, they're called a Karen because of their behaviour. Which is mortifying to witness tbh. Becoming middle aged doesn't automatically mean becoming an ass.

Couldn’t you just call them a racist, or just rude whichever is most appropriate?
Surely that’s more powerful

And literally no one on this thread disagrees with this.

We would just prefer you, if you witness bad behaviour and wish to “call it out “ that you have the balls to actually own that sentiment and address the specific behaviour head on.

Don’t hide behind cowardly internet inspired insults or you are no better than the person you direct this at

I have never heard it being used in this context. This is just used once again as a way to shut women up because we’re clearly racist if we object to being called Karen for our actions in f a non racist situation

And for many with this name it’s far more than just “unfortunate “ FFS 😡

So women should just get back in their box when something needs questioning, addressing or challenged? Is that what you are saying?

Ive had numerous real life conversations where people are too frightened of being insulted and/or having their interaction filmed by a younger person and plastered all over the internet without context, to stand up for themselves.

That isn’t right

When men get cross people tend to pay attention.

When women get cross people laugh.

Karen is just a name i dont call people if they piss me off i just walk away if im pushed to the point of saying anything its normally please stop acting like a cunt sounds much better than saying your acting like a karen.
The moment someone raises their voice they already know they have lost the argument.

I’ve never seen or heard anyone call a man a “Darren”, whereas women are called “Karen” all over the internet and in real life for daring to speak or criticise anything. It’s misogyny 101.

That does NOT "warrant" you calling this person Karen. It DOES deserve calling out. You can express the level of frustration and abuse that you felt, you should defend yourself against that sort of aggressive and unwanted behaviour. But not by calling them Karen. It takes a common given name, and applies a negative association to it. This is offensive to people who are named Karen. Whilst it might seem a convenient shorthand, it's essentially lazy and carries a lot of baggage that can be hurtful and counterproductive.

I'd have still called him a Karen.

I generally find people stupid enough to do what she did don't understand intelligent words like 'ablist' but they absolutely know what 'karen' means these days.

Just another, in a long line of insulting words, that have no male equivalent - or not until people struggle to invent one to also apply to males as some sort of ignorant ‘equaliser’. But that’s just a pathetic attempt at justification for the continuing casual misogyny that even some women don’t recognise… I forgive those poor, misguided women who jump on the misogyny bandwagon, they can’t help it, they’re suffering from patriarchal ‘Stockholm Syndrome’…😢😅 ✌🏾❣️
P.S. Anyone read ‘Hags’ by Victoria Smith? If you can read her chapter covering this issue and still think it’s cool to ‘Karen’ women…

Can’t see anyone saying otherwise?

You are being unreasonable. Anyone who acts entitled, regardless of gender, should be called out.

It’s not a comprehension thing it’s a you make no sense thing.

Why did you use the term Karen, though? Why did you not call her a ridiculous ableist busybody, or something that actually described her behaviour? What would you have said if it had been a man?