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STOP calling people "a Karen"

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PaperwhiteTheFriendlyGhost · 24/03/2025 07:50

Why are people so lazy and ignorant? Ironically they use it in some instances to berate someone for a perceived insult. Maybe this should be on Pedants' Corner, I don't know.

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Theunamedcat · 26/03/2025 05:59

JazbayGrapes · 25/03/2025 23:28

i thought it was an American thing? I never heard it here in RL honestly

Some one called me the Karen of all Karen's yesterday in a local England based group they think they are hilarious

nomas · 26/03/2025 04:50

ThePoshUns · 25/03/2025 07:23

Could you given some examples of this please?

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I think the poster means ones like these

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healthybychristmas · 26/03/2025 01:03

I stopped listening to a podcast because of this. It was a pretty rubbish one anyway: what did you do yesterday? I can't understand why people can't see how offensive it is.

JazbayGrapes · 25/03/2025 23:28

i thought it was an American thing? I never heard it here in RL honestly

Howmanycatsistoomany · 25/03/2025 23:14

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 14:48

Oh come on the "I want to speak to the manager" hair cut has been a thing for YEARS now.

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Honestly had no idea. In my defence I live in France where bobs are iconic and Karen is not a thing.

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 23:02

RhaenysRocks · 25/03/2025 22:51

What a load of absolute bollocks.

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And yet collectively agreed on by many psychologists. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it bollocks.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 25/03/2025 22:55

ItchyLegItis · 25/03/2025 22:53

Karen, is that you?

Behave! 😂

ItchyLegItis · 25/03/2025 22:53

Karen, is that you?

RhaenysRocks · 25/03/2025 22:51

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 21:45

The human brain evolved to make judgements and see stereotypes as a survival method. If you can guess how someone is going to behave by looking at them and the way interact with other people you have a better chance of surviving die to avoiding risk and finding your tribe where you belong. It's part of being a social species that is good at spotting patterns. That is why Stereotypes are most of the time correct, if they weren't they would serve no purpose. Stereotypes aren't just for racists and it's ignorant to assume so.

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What a load of absolute bollocks.

legsekeven · 25/03/2025 22:23

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 21:45

The human brain evolved to make judgements and see stereotypes as a survival method. If you can guess how someone is going to behave by looking at them and the way interact with other people you have a better chance of surviving die to avoiding risk and finding your tribe where you belong. It's part of being a social species that is good at spotting patterns. That is why Stereotypes are most of the time correct, if they weren't they would serve no purpose. Stereotypes aren't just for racists and it's ignorant to assume so.

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Yes true!! I mean all blond women are thick as mince aren’t they! Forewarned is forearmed

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/03/2025 22:22

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/03/2025 21:18

Such a weird obsession with bobs 😳

Yes it is 😀

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 21:45

Hermitta · 25/03/2025 19:17

Stereotypes don't just fall out of thin air, they exist for a reason.

How bizarre to use the exact phrase used by most racists to justify their actions, to justify using a term for a woman in an insulting way.

The human brain evolved to make judgements and see stereotypes as a survival method. If you can guess how someone is going to behave by looking at them and the way interact with other people you have a better chance of surviving die to avoiding risk and finding your tribe where you belong. It's part of being a social species that is good at spotting patterns. That is why Stereotypes are most of the time correct, if they weren't they would serve no purpose. Stereotypes aren't just for racists and it's ignorant to assume so.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/03/2025 21:18

Such a weird obsession with bobs 😳

Longma · 25/03/2025 19:45

Hardtotalkt · 24/03/2025 08:27

The American videos are justified. A lot of racist white women faking tears and being hurt.

How does a handful of American woman acting badly justify a woman’s name now being used as an insult to other women for anything someone else disagrees with?

Fair enough to call out those women, and men, for acting badly, for being racist, etc. but why does that justify using a woman’s name as an insult?

Longma · 25/03/2025 19:39

MixedBananas · 24/03/2025 07:55

Nope. Its use is fine as they use Daren for men who are the "let me speak to your Manager type" paychos as well. I seen more Karens UN the wild then Darens , personally.

As a Woman it doesn't bother me because I don't rage in public at service workers or random citizens.

Who used DAREN?
I’ve never heard that used ever, anywhere.
Sadly I hear the insult Karen far too often - I feel for those lovely women out there with the name.
I hate that it’s just another way to try and shit down women, and annoyingly often by other women as well.

Hermitta · 25/03/2025 19:17

Stereotypes don't just fall out of thin air, they exist for a reason.

How bizarre to use the exact phrase used by most racists to justify their actions, to justify using a term for a woman in an insulting way.

RhaenysRocks · 25/03/2025 18:57

@SailorSerena so does that mean then that any middle aged bobbed hair woman cannot speak up for herself, complain about poor service or send inedible food back, politely and firmly? It sounds like you've decided that any instance of the above will definitely be unreasonable, unjustified and entitled.

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 16:49

Nameychangington · 25/03/2025 16:01

Oh right so women with a specific haircut all behave the same way. Like Hassidic Jews, they are all the same as each other right? And men with dreads, they all act the same, and teenage boys with fades. Or would that be a lazy offensive stereotype?

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Look. Stereotypes don't just fall out of thin air, they exist for a reason. Most stereotypes if not all have truth behind them and are recognised by many people. White middle aged women with a bob were the most likely people to give me shit when I worked in retail as a student. My own mother and aunt behave like this and it's mortifying, I have walked away from them in public a few times.

Hermitta · 25/03/2025 16:02

My oldest sisters name is Karen.

It's had a real affect on her mental health. She lacked confidence anyway, titters and sideways glances when she has to respond to her name in public haven't helped. (And yes, some grown adults and teenagers really do that, I've seen it myself). She feels people have judged her as unreasonable, difficult or a racist judged solely on her name.

I hope whoever started the term goes to hell.

Nameychangington · 25/03/2025 16:01

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 14:48

Oh come on the "I want to speak to the manager" hair cut has been a thing for YEARS now.

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Oh right so women with a specific haircut all behave the same way. Like Hassidic Jews, they are all the same as each other right? And men with dreads, they all act the same, and teenage boys with fades. Or would that be a lazy offensive stereotype?

Nameychangington · 25/03/2025 15:58

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 14:43

Women are not a minority.

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Numerically no but culturally yes, women are a minority as men are viewed/ treated as the default human. Just like heterosexuals are, and white people are (in the West).

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 14:48

Howmanycatsistoomany · 25/03/2025 12:48

Fuck me - are women now insulting other women because they have bob haircuts??

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Oh come on the "I want to speak to the manager" hair cut has been a thing for YEARS now.

SailorSerena · 25/03/2025 14:43

Nameychangington · 25/03/2025 12:59

Would you say that to any other member of a minority who'd been insulted because of being a member of a minority? Yeah didn't think so. 'Progressives' are always the worst misogynists.

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Women are not a minority.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 25/03/2025 14:39

WinterBones · 25/03/2025 12:35

yes, people who do what she did to me are fucking stupid.

If you have any issue with that, i suggest you become disabled enough to need a blue badge, then experience some horrendous arsehole challenging you over it like they're entitled to do so, and also know better than you do.

I'll call her an ableist cunt next time, how's that?

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Absolutely fine, at least you are using more accurate vocabulary instead of following the stupid herd.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 25/03/2025 14:36

TheJollyMoose · 25/03/2025 07:48

STOP telling people what to do.

STOP trying to control people’s language.

HTH.

Stop using the name of millions of innocent women as a slur and insult.

HTH.