Are we not clubbing because of Covid or mayne because it's bit of a shitsshow now?

People meet via dating apps now and drink less.

It's quite simply because none of us have any money (disposable income) and going out has become so expensive (thanks to energy companies, etc being so greedy).

In London, a dedicated taskforce is being launched by the mayor's office to help boost nightlife and save venues at risk of closing.

Why not just keep Council tax lower so more people have money to go out or lower the rates for venues so they don't have to charge so much?

these days there's that much entertainment options it can be a mix

Yes @SparrowsEatUpToHalfTheirBodyWeightADay he already introduced me to them 😁. I thought he was talking about The Who to begin with...

God they all go on about spiking but it's largely an urban myth. Why on earth would anyone waste drugs on a stranger? And then having done so just watch them walk off?

licensing laws in Scotland have become so strict it’s killing hospitality

Drink spiking too. There's been a few incidents in our town. Seems to happen in the clubs and not the pubs.

I don't blame youngsters for staying in with less alcohol, takeaways and a movie.

I spent 1998-2008 going clubbing and to raves.

Back then you could spend £25 on a 10hr night out including entrance and a few shots, or chipping in for a mini bus and a small bottle of vodka.

Now the same would cost young people £80+ and young people spend so much on appearance. Back then everything for our outfits came from charity shops and it was a point of pride to not spend money.

Not to mention we’d get a few pills that would last the night, now everything is cut with fent and you’ll possibly die.

I did all that shit 20 years ago but I don’t think I’d recommend young people to do it now.

I think it started with the smoking ban. Now it's too expensive and probably more boring as people don't want to meet new people by going out. They are just with their mates and that's it.

I used to go out loads at uni on uni nights. Loved it. Everyone was drunk but respectful. Tried going out on a 'locals' night (I.e. weekend) and never did again.

Gross, leary 30-50 year old men trying to grab my hips and grind on my despite me clearly telling them no and to fuck off. Remove their hands and they're straight back on. Bouncers did shit all about it. Left very quickly, never went out on those nights again.

I went to a daytime clubbing event yesterday with some friends. Music was pretty cheesy 80s/90s (and not really my 90s) but we had a great time dancing. Probably 90% female attendees, we only had one experience with a creepy bloke, so much better than clubbing when younger! We were done by 8pm and got nice food afterwards before heading home on the bus.

My DS is 18 and doesn't really do clubbing, there's one club he goes to sometimes that does metal and indie night. He seems to prefer live music, gigs in sweaty pubs where he dances enthusiastically with his mates - pirate metal anyone? He doesn't drink that much at gigs as it's too expensive.

@PuppyMonkey there is an element of that too - if you look at the music that’s around ( and successful) a lot of it ( to me) isn’t very danceable at all - it’s not exactly Dancing Queen

On tiktok they talked about how the Gen Z's don't know how to dance because they find everything cringe and I thought it was the usual rage bait, pitting generations against eachother . This could be it then.

I think in part the options you have if you do not go out are so much greater. You are not stuck on a Saturday evening just with the choice of some Simon Cowell drivel, a formulaic Ant and Dec show, or yet another episode of Casualty, for example.

I used to go late 70s/early to mid 80s ( well I am 63) but to be honest it was far less daunting , far cheaper and I don’t remember any drugs or aggressiveness - and mainly involved dancing round your handbag to earth wind and fire or soft cells tainted love/dexys come on Eileen etc - main annoyance was getting rid of blokes you didn’t fancy muscling on.

My DDs don’t go clubbing because there is no culture of going out dancing in their age group. Where we live anyway. They look at me dancing in the kitchen when a good song comes on the radio and are quite incredulous. Not because I’m a good or bad dancer, I’m amazing obviously but because they would never even think to dance along to a song, they say they wouldn’t know what to do. Quite sad really.

I'm in my mid 40s and still go out clubbing.
I went to Ministry of Sound the other week the crowd was pretty mixed of mature and younger clubbers but there was hardly anyone there compared to the 90s early 2000.
I still like it, I go with the same friends as I did in my 20s. We have a lot of fun then go back to our everyday muddleflap lives.
I think my generation was influenced by the rave culture of the 80s 90s and the brit pop ladette phase.
Everything was just care free and hedonistic back then.
It's a completely different generation now.

We’re not clubbing because we’re on mumsnet now

Students, yes!! That's when I knew that the pandemic only added to the decline in club/drinking culture. When working at our city centres uni many years ago, I immediately recognised the lack of student union, all you can drink for a tenner Thursdays - they were empty and so different to back in my day.
I can't imagine today's students knocking back snakebites 😳.

When I drive round the town its just full of blokes, often sad older ones, and it's not the fun environment I remember.

A lot more kids are anxious and more into health, gym, insta and tiktok.

When I was young in the 80s early 90s you had to look smart. Blokes had to wear ties, no trainers or jeans. Therefore, the violence increased. And behaviour deteriorated...people are happy to throw drink around now.

The cost is ridiculous for for drinks and as is entry . The music is pretty repetitive unless you go for a cheesy night.

pubs have later licences and music licences. In the mid 90s and 00s I used to work away and have to entertain clients off all ages, Flares and Reflex the 70s and 80s bars were great for that.

when we were 17/18 yesterday's in Bristol, tiny sweaty club in a wine cellar. Free tickets on a Wednesday if it was your birthday....my friend had 3 18ths!

but as many have said young people don't socialise or even drink. Students the lifeblood of mid week clubs used to be happy to spend their free grant money, now they have to borrow to go to university it's different.

1. clubbing was all about the dance/rave music scene which peaked in the 90s. There's no exciting music scene anymore. It's all cover bands in bars playing 70s-80s-90s songs.

2. Clubbing is also a young past time. Predominantly 18-30. The Zoomers aren't a big party/drinking generation

Pubs and bars in city centres are still popular but it's older people filling them. Older people aren't typically out clubbing.

I remember clubbing...

But I think today's youngsters will view clubbing through the same anemoic lens that I see those 1980s dinner parties people hosted in their homes with the shoulder pads, silk blouses and posh napkins making an appearance....prawn cocktail starters in glass cups, lace tablecloth, some kind of stuffed salmon dish and a black forest gateau.

(My mum's 1980s cookbooks certainly paint a picture!)

Anyway my point is, no one does either anymore.