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Accepted a long term supply role 2 weeks ago, have handover dates booked for next week, starting with them April but want to cancel it all? Is it very evil to tell agency I do not want to work there?

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Sk999 · 23/03/2025 12:48

I accepted this job, its close to me, but I only accepted because I thought i had no other options 2 weeks ago for after Easter? However, I have a few options now in year groups i wanted although further away. I also noticed on the few days I supplied there - its a year 1 class with 1 child who does not listen or respect me at all, 1 sen and few other behavioural issues (mainly boys) and I am mostly left alone for the whole day. I have the TA for 45 mins before lunch last time and that was it, sometimes no TA at all and sometimes 3 different TAs, but mostly no one at all. I cant be everywhere helping 28 kids so most complete with no help. Im scared that I will struggle once i start on long term, because all the planning will be on me, as its one form, there will be marking, updating displays, most of the lessons they teach they prepare presentations themselves except for maths. I prefer the workload of a EYFS class, preparing activities in tuff spots and writing up observations etc. I know i need to come out my comfort zone sometimes but i dont know if its worth it for a supply role.

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OldChinaJug · 23/03/2025 13:05

SpanThatWorld · 23/03/2025 13:03

Depends on supply and demand.

Lots of jobs - it's worth them keeping you onside so they can make their commission
Lots of teachers - you have lost them a booking and will go to the back of the queue

It doesn't work like that if you have a good working relationship with them.

They want to keep their good supply teachers and will bend of backwards to keep you and give you what you want.

SpanThatWorld · 23/03/2025 13:03

Sk999 · 23/03/2025 13:00

That is true but they also make money through us, so wouldnt they rather someone keep me working for them than another agency for April?

Depends on supply and demand.

Lots of jobs - it's worth them keeping you onside so they can make their commission
Lots of teachers - you have lost them a booking and will go to the back of the queue

ConsuelaHammock · 23/03/2025 13:03

Number one rule of subbing- you work where you want to work.
Number two rule- put yourself and your own mental health first. A poor school/ class/ smt can break even the strongest teacher.

OldChinaJug · 23/03/2025 13:02

Sk999 · 23/03/2025 13:00

That is true but they also make money through us, so wouldnt they rather someone keep me working for them than another agency for April?

Give them your reasons.

I've heard so many stories of supply teachers just not turning up or going out for lunch and not coming back in the afternoon. You telling them you don't want to work there and giving notice of that is small fry!

mugglewump · 23/03/2025 13:02

No TA in year 1? That is not legal. Second red flag for me is any long-term post for the summer term as you will be lumbered with writing reports, when you will have only had them for a couple of months. Moreover, you still might not be paid to scale as this legally can only be enforced after 12 weeks.

As for feeling you are letting them down, do not fret. No school has any qualms about letting a supply teacher go when budgets get tight if they can cover internally.

ConsuelaHammock · 23/03/2025 13:01

Can you contact schools you’d like to work in directly? Agencies are a compete financial rip off for the teacher involved.
In NI subs are booked directly by the schools via a website called Nistr. They pay the full daily rate to the teacher cutting out any middle man.

OldChinaJug · 23/03/2025 13:00

Supply can be brutal. A school can cancel a booking with very little warning and no explanation so I wouldn't worry too much h about whether or not it's evil.

This.

I can guaranteee that, if the school no longer needed you, they'd just cancel the booking without any consideration for you or how it would affect you.

Sk999 · 23/03/2025 13:00

SpanThatWorld · 23/03/2025 12:58

Supply can be brutal. A school can cancel a booking with very little warning and no explanation so I wouldn't worry too much h about whether or not it's evil.

However, you may find that your consultant thinks you're flakey and won't offer you other bookings so quickly.

It's in their interest to have a good relationship with the school so their priority will be to cover the booking rather than find something that you'll like

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That is true but they also make money through us, so wouldnt they rather someone keep me working for them than another agency for April?

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SpanThatWorld · 23/03/2025 12:58

Supply can be brutal. A school can cancel a booking with very little warning and no explanation so I wouldn't worry too much h about whether or not it's evil.

However, you may find that your consultant thinks you're flakey and won't offer you other bookings so quickly.

It's in their interest to have a good relationship with the school so their priority will be to cover the booking rather than find something that you'll like

ConsuelaHammock · 23/03/2025 12:57

I wouldn’t take on that level of responsibility if I wasn’t a permanent member of staff. You’re getting all the crap without the financial stability. Turn it down!

OldChinaJug · 23/03/2025 12:56

No, YANBU

That's the beauty of supply.

You don't have the security, pay or progression of a permanent member of staff. They don't have the reliability and predictability of a permanent ember of staff.

Some will say its unfair on the children but you are important too.

I did supply for a good few years and always did long term roles. I only ever once cancelled a job part way through because it was affecting my health as the school was a really poor fit for me. The agency was fine about it. They had someome else in there the following day. I took the rest of the week off and was back in a new long term role the following Monday in a great school, which I loved.

tulippa · 23/03/2025 12:54

From what you've described, the new job sounds very normal for a teacher. If that's not for you fair enough, but you'll probably come up against this scenario quite often if you're looking for teaching jobs.

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