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Daughter super jealous of another girl in class

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cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 08:11

Hello.
My DD 14 has struggled with being jealous of other people for a long long time… most recently of a girl in her class. Said girl is good at everything, you know the sort. DD has said to me it’s very difficult because this girl is better than her at everything - she said and I quote ‘she gets better grades than me even when I try, even in my favourite subject; if she surpasses me in my best subject there’s no reason for me to be here, I’m useless, I bring nothing to the table.’ The girl is also good at sports (DD isn’t and hates physical stuff), the girl has a lot of friends and seems to be quite popular (DD doesn’t have any of this) and this girl also apparently has a good home life and self esteem (The girl has a family whereas DD only really has me and is an only child.) DD’s been jealous of this girl since last year and her self esteem is plummeting at astronomically high levels. It’s difficult to watch.
WWYD??
(unsure if this is right place, first time here :-)

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YourFairCyanReader · 23/03/2025 10:42
  • The only thing that matters is whether she is getting better at her studies/skills/behaviours. How are these tracked and encouraged ? It has to be 100% about her progress and not anyone else's. It's really important she understands this, as the answer is not for her to be better than everyone else. It's to be better than she was the month/year before.
  • Have a good think about who in her life has made her feel that her value is in her achievements. Parents, grandparents, a teacher she particularly admires? It's come from somewhere. Root it out and talk about it , and get it to stop or her to be able to ignore it
  • Her value to you, her family, is who she is as a person. Her uniqueness and the single one of her that arrived when she was born. Focus a lot on her qualities, her character, her personality. You love the way her hair goes behind her ears and the funny way she has of peeling a satsuma etc. There should be no indication at all that your love, approval, and value comes from anything but these things. Her successes at school , especially ones that are in comparison to others like school prizes, are incidental.
sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 23/03/2025 10:40

The school thinks that she's a potential threat because of her jealousy and you think this is "silly"?

Your daughter sounds fixated with a stalker type mentality to me. Very unhealthy

And she didn't like her Counsellor because of her clothes? The way the counsellor looked?

Dear me!

I'd take your daughters feelings seriously and get her some help

ChaChaChaChanges · 23/03/2025 10:40

Isthiswhatmenthink · 23/03/2025 10:35

Yikes. That’s actually quite a damning label.

Edited

I agree. I don’t think I would be brushing it off as lightly as you are.

52isjustanumber · 23/03/2025 10:39

I had this with a girl at my school. We were in the same class from 5 to 18.
My advice would be never to ask about this girl's grades, or make positive comments about her.
Also try and find some activities that the girl is not involved in so that your daughter can learn other skills and build other friendships. Explorer Scouts may be one idea or a sport such as kayaking or other watersport.

Bruisername · 23/03/2025 10:38

Do you tend to praise her for achievement?

perhaps turn it round and praise her for the effort but also for the personality traits. Eg she helped someone understand something in maths deserves praise but getting top mark in a test doesn’t in the same way

ilovesooty · 23/03/2025 10:36

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:20

@AffIt We’ve tried all kinds of professional help but DD won’t participate or care very much.

She sees nothing untoward in her thought process so she isn't going to benefit from therapy. It's interesting that she's chosen to doubt the counsellor's professional competence. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that happened when she was challenged in therapy.

Bruisername · 23/03/2025 10:36

If she is self aware and able to self reflect then she needs to consider what the jealousy is achieving. The answer will be nothing good and she is negatively impacting herself.

What would happen if this girl left the school? your dd would now be top of everything at the school - but that girl is still out there being ‘better’ than her along with many other girls no doubt.

if she is a logical person work through her feelings and their rationality and their impact

Thisissuss · 23/03/2025 10:35

Jealousy is more of an unpicking where it comes from, rather than squashing it. You need to work with her to see comparing herself is futile. Look at the incel culture of men comparing themselves to other men and where that has gone. No one wins. It is part of life to feel driven by other's success for many people, but to harbour grudges about the people who succeed is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to suffer.

Butchyrestingface · 23/03/2025 10:35

ConsuelaHammock · 23/03/2025 10:22

Move schools ? She sounds mentally unwell.

And then what happens when she moves school and fixates on the next popular, high achiever?

Isthiswhatmenthink · 23/03/2025 10:35

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 09:25

@minipie Concern to others just means that the school thinks DD might act out of impulse because of her envy and therefore pose a risk to others. It’s silly, I know.

Yikes. That’s actually quite a damning label.

pizzaHeart · 23/03/2025 10:35

i think @frozendaisy is right that you need to look at your own behaviour and comments about achievements of others. It’s deeper than a simple statement: I’m jealous of her.
Does your daughter get enough praise from wider family? IMO it’s really good to have wider range of people praising you. It gives you better satisfaction. If it’s only mum at home it’s not so effective.

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:34

@BMW6 No, like I said, not an option.

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BMW6 · 23/03/2025 10:32

Well, could she move to another school?

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:30

@Titasaducksarse She’s super self-aware, she knows she’s jealous but she can’t stop it.

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cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:30

@ConsuelaHammock Not an option.

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RedToothBrush · 23/03/2025 10:27

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 09:45

@FootTapping The issue is that this girl seems to do everything. And now, whenever DD isn’t instantly good at something she gives up and it’s always somehow to do with the other girl for some reason.

Why is the other girl responsible for your daughter's abilities or lack of.

The fact the school has said she's a concern to others is alarming. As is your dismissive attitude to the comment.

Time to have a sit down chat about why she's fixating on another child. Both with her and the school. Fixation can be a sign for other things.

Also this isn't just down to the school to 'fix'. You say the school don't do anything yet you don't seem to be intervening just expecting them to take all the action. Their first action will be to approach you because until you take the concern seriously they are limited in how much they can do until there is an incident.

Chuchoter · 23/03/2025 10:26

'Said girl is good at everything, you know the sort.'

You might not realise it but you may have given your daughter the foundation to feel this way!

'You now the sort' is a horrible way to describe a child and indicates that you may have jealous traits.

Your daughter needs to focus on her own self esteem and accept that there will always be prettier girls, higher achievement girls but her personal journey is to make her own light shine as brightly as it can and not worry that she can't outshine others .

Counselling may be a way to achieve this if you think that her feelings are more than a passing phase.

madamweb · 23/03/2025 10:26

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:13

@PerkyGreenCat That’s the thing, she’s actually very good at school and extremely academic, it’s just this one person that seems to be hindering her view of herself.

All the more reason for her to build a life outside school and outside of just being academic

(And I say that as an academic high flier who is the mum of a ln academic high flier and a child with SEN, both of them benefit from hobbies)

YouveGotAFastCar · 23/03/2025 10:25

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 09:55

@Bruisername She’s ok with people who she thinks aren’t better than her. This specific person, however, she feels she needs to ‘defeat’ (?) in order to feel good.

That’s really, really concerning.

She needs help. Her self esteem is rock bottom, and she can’t cope with anyone being “better” than her. She wants to “defeat” the person she perceives to be. School already consider her a risk to others; and you’re downplaying it as silly.

This is serious.

LochKatrine · 23/03/2025 10:24

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 08:49

@Sassybooklover We’ve met with pastoral so many times. They just list my daughter off as a ‘concern to others’ and don’t do anything about it.

What would you like them to do about it?

ConsuelaHammock · 23/03/2025 10:22

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:20

@AffIt We’ve tried all kinds of professional help but DD won’t participate or care very much.

Move schools ? She sounds mentally unwell.

Titasaducksarse · 23/03/2025 10:22

I would definitely see if your daughter would engage in counselling as otherwise this will follow her through to adulthood.
Does your daughter identify that she is jealous ie is self aware of her feelings or does she focus on 'that girl who is better than me'?

madamweb · 23/03/2025 10:22

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:14

@madamweb She takes a drama class.

Does she enjoy it? Could she get into am dram and do performing? The feeling of being part of a show is second to none. I chaperone for my daughter's shows now and it's brought her closer together and her show family feel like family

Or do lamda qualifications? My daughter gets such a buzz from doing these.

Or could she take up dance as well? My daughter's dance school does teen dance classes for teens who want to take up dance and it goes well with performing?

Or singing lessons /a choir. Again, singing is so good for wellbeing and goes well with performing

Bruisername · 23/03/2025 10:21

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 10:13

@PerkyGreenCat That’s the thing, she’s actually very good at school and extremely academic, it’s just this one person that seems to be hindering her view of herself.

The problem is that her self esteem is tied up in being ‘clever’ and the best and that’s what you need to work on.

as a pp said, university is when this can all come crashing down and she really needs that resilience and understanding well before then

being academic at school is meaningless in the real world. That’s why I suggest you focus on where she wants to be as an adult

my dd (similar age) isn’t particularly academic but has incredible soft skills (total opposite of me!). She has an idea of what she wants to do as an adult and she’s mapped out how to get there and what she needs to work for in her exams to achieve that

I’d also say that the least popular kids in her year are the clever kids who are always comparing their grades (so they can show off) or getting upset because they only got 95%. So when you say she doesn’t make friends easily - maybe she should consider how she makes others feel and reflect on that

pizzaHeart · 23/03/2025 10:21

cheshirecat2913 · 23/03/2025 09:25

@minipie Concern to others just means that the school thinks DD might act out of impulse because of her envy and therefore pose a risk to others. It’s silly, I know.

I think it sounds pretty serious, OP.
A lot of teenager girls are struggling with their confidence but this is quite a higher level.

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