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Schools shouldn't teach cursive writing

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IShotTheDeputyItWasMe · 22/03/2025 11:02

When I grew up, we'd learn to write using print ie not joined up. Then a few years later we'd have to re-learn in cursive. I remember finding relearning quite difficult eg the way "s" is written is very different. What was the point in teaching print and then expecting everyone to use cursive?

A lot of primary schools now teach cursive from the off.

But why teach it at all? Not many adults write pure cursive and sometimes cursive, particularly messy or very elaborate cursive can be really hard to read. It looks nice sometimes but what's the point in using it when print is much easier to read and most adults use it or a variation of print anyway.

I deal with old documents that are always written in cursive and they are a nightmare to read.

Personally, I mainly use print but do join some letters. But my writing is odd anyway because I also did calligraphy and have incorporated some of that too. My capital "h" is ridiculous!

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/03/2025 14:49

DodoTired · 22/03/2025 13:22

It’s very good for the brain (neural connections). I read some evidence that it right hand cursive writing actually improves math skills

How does that work when Chinese characters are taught to be printed clearly, yet the overall standards of mathematical ability and attainment are so much higher?

Nanny0gg · 22/03/2025 14:48

Lolapusht · 22/03/2025 11:25

I think they should be taught how to write by printing first and then when they can do that they can be taught cursive when they’re a lot older (maybe Yr5/6?).

Mine were taught cursive from Yr2 and it’s been a disaster because they never got a hang of different letter heights, writing in a straight line, consistent letter size etc. They’re now re-learning so you can actually read what they’ve written.

I think once they can write legibly, then they can be taught cursive. I have horrible handwriting and would love to have beautiful writing but alas, tis not to be 😞

If they were taught properly using handwriting books (as I was 60+ years ago) it works.

But it has to be done properly every day (even if only 5 minutes)

But as most children don't have proper pencil holding (which is much more comfortable and efficient) enforced, it's a struggle

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:46

timeforachange999 · 22/03/2025 14:42

DS was taught cursive from the start. His writing his awful. He’s a teenager now and having to learn how to print. During lockdown I realised he had no idea which letters needed horizontal joins rather than vertical joins and that took a lot of time to put right. He had poor fine motor skills and I think learning cursive didn’t work for him at all

DD was the same. It all improved once cursive became a memory.

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:46

Tiredtiredtiredachey · 22/03/2025 14:20

Sadly the average professional educator has little say about the content of the curriculum!

And as professionals there's nothing to stop them from writing to the Secretary of State for Education and copying in their MP and the Director of Education at their Local Authority. It's what committed professionals should do and it would raise the public's opinion of the profession. They could demonstrate they had thought through the intellectual arguments rather than rote quoting mantras.

timeforachange999 · 22/03/2025 14:42

Lolapusht · 22/03/2025 11:20

It is a nightmare.

Our school taught cursive very early, we got a new head who has massively improved everything and she’s ditched cursive as all of the children have pretty bad hand writing. They’re having to go back to basics with children who should be able to write to undo the twiddles as it’s impossible to read most of what they write.

DS was taught cursive from the start. His writing his awful. He’s a teenager now and having to learn how to print. During lockdown I realised he had no idea which letters needed horizontal joins rather than vertical joins and that took a lot of time to put right. He had poor fine motor skills and I think learning cursive didn’t work for him at all

sandcolouredsocks · 22/03/2025 14:41

Dh is an English examiner for GCSE and cursive causes poor marks. If they can’t be read, doesn’t matter how intelligent they are, they won’t get the marks.

DS is autistic and since learning cursive, he’s illegible. He now has special arrangements for exams to type all of it. But when he was reception / year 1 - his written print was really good. As soon as cursive was pushed, illegible.

one rule for all never works.

Natsku · 22/03/2025 14:39

They don't teach cursive in Finland which I was a bit miffed about but thought it's no big deal. Until now, when my teenager got her penpal for her class's German exchange project and she's struggled to read his cursive writing, because she never learnt it herself.

viques · 22/03/2025 14:35

I would like to know how they teach handwriting in Poland. All the Polish children who I taught who came to the UK after a few years in Polish schools had beautiful clear handwriting.

Wantitalltogoaway · 22/03/2025 14:33

Lifeiseveryday · 22/03/2025 14:30

People saying people in jobs no longer write by hand!!! I can assure you I do and it can be for hours. No way would I be able to do my job without writing in cursive script. Writing is still important and not all jobs do everything electronically.

Me too.

Wantitalltogoaway · 22/03/2025 14:32

TeenToTwenties · 22/03/2025 11:08

Cursive is faster.
Lots of schools now start with entrance/exit flicks so as to help the transition.

Exactly this. There’s a reason for cursive. It is much faster, helping children to write more fluently and quickly in exams. If it’s taught properly it shouldn’t be messy.

Unfortunately it seems to be one of those skills (like holding a bloody knife and fork properly) that’s getting lost.

Rainbow1901 · 22/03/2025 14:32

We were taught cursive but only so far as learning to join up specific letter groups which used tails and starters. We were also taught to use discretion about what and when to join up so that what we wrote was legible. GDD is doing cursive writing and it is causing all kinds of issues for her. It slows her down so much that she is slow to complete work and then it is virtually all but impossible to read.

Lifeiseveryday · 22/03/2025 14:30

People saying people in jobs no longer write by hand!!! I can assure you I do and it can be for hours. No way would I be able to do my job without writing in cursive script. Writing is still important and not all jobs do everything electronically.

AuntAgathaGregson · 22/03/2025 14:30

28Fluctuations · 22/03/2025 11:06

Someone will be along to tell you it helps with spelling.

It does not.

Children should be taught a neat, efficient way to write their numbers and letters and make sure that they are formed correctly, using a comfortable and correct pencil hold. So that they can write neatly and legibly at a good pace.

Any other requirement is pointless.

It does help with spelling. If children learn cursive from the start, they develop a degree of muscle memory for the most common blends, and it's certainly helpful for dyslexic children who often get those the wrong way round. It's way quicker than printing, too.

When my children were young, they started with printing first. The youngest is dyslexic, and we were fortunate enough to find a specialist tutor who basically took his writing apart and started again with cursive. It definitely helped him, and he now has much the nicest and most legible writing of the three of them.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 22/03/2025 14:29

I was taught cursive writing and my handwriting is beautiful and readable- as stated by many people!
I don't think writing styles are that important- cursive or print, but in primary school they should be uniform as to not confuse the children to much.
I don't think the problem is in the writing style but more in the way it's taught. I remember having notebooks with 3 distinctive lines to help with the writing - my DC were given bog standard notebooks....

stayathomer · 22/03/2025 14:25

I’ve never understood it, personally i more often find it illegible. One of my ec does beautiful cursive but it’s still difficult to read, another can’t master it and I find it so hard to figure out any words. I would guess it was originally for speed and style but not sure. The teacher admitted a few people in the class have decided to go back to print and she doesn’t mind and I felt like asking could she not try to get everyone back😅

Iloveeverycat · 22/03/2025 14:23

When my daughter started printing instead of cursive in primary her writing age went up by 2 years.

Tiredtiredtiredachey · 22/03/2025 14:20

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:16

Well, that's something that needs to change. Professional educators need to think about all the children.

DD's primary head was obsessed with cursive and her handwriting was beautiful. It was such a shame her grammar was awful and made her appear ill educated.

Sadly the average professional educator has little say about the content of the curriculum!

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 22/03/2025 14:17

Tiredtiredtiredachey · 22/03/2025 14:14

The curriculum and accompanying key stage two teacher assessment framework state that a year six child cannot be considered expected standard if they cannot write in a cursive style.

That's ridiculous.

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:16

Tiredtiredtiredachey · 22/03/2025 14:14

The curriculum and accompanying key stage two teacher assessment framework state that a year six child cannot be considered expected standard if they cannot write in a cursive style.

Well, that's something that needs to change. Professional educators need to think about all the children.

DD's primary head was obsessed with cursive and her handwriting was beautiful. It was such a shame her grammar was awful and made her appear ill educated.

Tiredtiredtiredachey · 22/03/2025 14:14

The curriculum and accompanying key stage two teacher assessment framework state that a year six child cannot be considered expected standard if they cannot write in a cursive style.

Doodleflips · 22/03/2025 14:13

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:12

It isn't a problem if it works for the child. If they are dyspraxic/dyslexic, etc, then alternatives should be available.

Yes, of course. I don’t disagree with you.

RosesAndHellebores · 22/03/2025 14:12

Doodleflips · 22/03/2025 13:36

We teach cursive, from early on. They get lots of practice.
The standard of writing is incredible. It is easy to read, and the presentation is good.
My kids went to the same school before they did this, their writing is terrible, and my eldest had to have laptop dispensation for his exams.
I don’t see the issue, why not learn cursive?

It isn't a problem if it works for the child. If they are dyspraxic/dyslexic, etc, then alternatives should be available.

Whatisthislife02 · 22/03/2025 13:59

TinkRose · 22/03/2025 13:27

I completely agree that phonics doesn’t work for all children!
Children can have a ‘weakness’ (I really hate that term but it’s the one that is used when assessing/moderating) taken into account with the end of KS2 data however the fact stands that for the majority of the children, they need to demonstrate legible cursive to achieve the expected standard, according to the NC.

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Yet with the SATS majority of the actual exams does not take it in to consideration.

Doodleflips · 22/03/2025 13:36

We teach cursive, from early on. They get lots of practice.
The standard of writing is incredible. It is easy to read, and the presentation is good.
My kids went to the same school before they did this, their writing is terrible, and my eldest had to have laptop dispensation for his exams.
I don’t see the issue, why not learn cursive?

TinkRose · 22/03/2025 13:27

Whatisthislife02 · 22/03/2025 12:07

🤣 this always makes me laugh
along side if your child can not grasp phonics then they will never learn to read.

my DD can not write well due to CP, she could not grasp phonics because of the sounds required were impossible for her due to speech impediment also due to the likely brain injury.

she is now in her last year of primary

all the way up until year 4 her English skills were really behind because she was not getting a chance to learn how to structure sentences, how to use language in writing etc because they were so focused on her using a dam pen and handwriting that she was never able to complete any work 🤣
same as phonics - year 4 she was 3 -4 years behind in reading.
Finally I managed to convince the school to drop her doing phonics and we took up sight reading at home and at school. She got funded a laptop and started learning how to touch type and used it especially in English.
she is now in year 6 and free reader, comprehension scores in practice SAT papers are very high. She is age appropriate in maths although probably excelling at the reasoning side.
She will never be a perfect physical writer.
I think this is our problem Is will tell ourselves and our kids this nonsense when actually there is other ways.

Edited

I completely agree that phonics doesn’t work for all children!
Children can have a ‘weakness’ (I really hate that term but it’s the one that is used when assessing/moderating) taken into account with the end of KS2 data however the fact stands that for the majority of the children, they need to demonstrate legible cursive to achieve the expected standard, according to the NC.