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To find so many police bullies?

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Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 00:28

Is it just me who finds so many police just utter bullies?

I unfortunately had to call them today and the officer was just so arrogant at knowing it all (while knowing nothing and just completely ignorant) and then as I stood holding my door open for him to leave he grabbed hold of my knocker and yanked the door taking my arm with it hurting me and has broken my knocker.

I'm just so sick of it. I phoned the police to report his assault of me and apparently you can't report a crime a police officer has committed- I have to make a complaint. And no, they won't send a different officer round to take a statement from me (about what I originally phoned the police for.) - they will send him around to potentially assault me again - thanks for the understanding!

I'm told I have to make a complaint for inappropriate force - I mean what exactly do they consider appropriate force against a member of the public politely holding the door open for them? The mind boggles. There's no point in making a complaint as I tried it last time and 4 months later there's been no response! Noone can tell me when I may or may not get a response. They are literally a law unto themselves!

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Sotired222 · 24/03/2025 13:20

Yes, I know. The person was not in a private property. The police will do anything to not carry out this duty though including bullying women into taking a violent person having a psychotic episode into their home with their children. Most officers have a complete lack of understanding of 136 and how the mental health system works. For example will often claim that if they take someone to A&E and that they 'let them out' then 'they must be ok.' The ambulance service are unable to deal with people who are experiencing psychosis making them violent and a danger to themselves and everyone around them. This is a police job and police officers need the appropriate training.

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Serencwtch · 23/03/2025 08:11

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 22:04

It was just around mental health and the 136 power. Not understanding who can and cannot detain a mentally unwell person etc.

The 136 is to detain someone 'Found in a public place by a police officer'
They can't detain someone in a private property on a 136.
Police should no longer be attending mental health calls in peoples homes unless there is an immediate threat to life - they should be redirecting to ambulance service who can arrange AMPH assessment & admission that way.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 22:04

dickdarstardlymuttley · 22/03/2025 21:13

‘I unfortunately had to call them today and the officer was just so arrogant at knowing it all )while knowing nothing and just completely ignorant)’.

Can you elaborate?

It was just around mental health and the 136 power. Not understanding who can and cannot detain a mentally unwell person etc.

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dickdarstardlymuttley · 22/03/2025 21:13

‘I unfortunately had to call them today and the officer was just so arrogant at knowing it all )while knowing nothing and just completely ignorant)’.

Can you elaborate?

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 21:07

I've just had an officer ring me to tell me they are putting a DVPO in place to give me 'some time to cool off'. When I asked what exactly I was meant to be cooling off from considering I perfectly calmly answered my door to get assaulted by my ex partner he got irate with me. I asked some questions which just got the response 'I don't know'. I've had to phone 101 to ask my questions and spoke to a friendly woman who I found myself saying to at the end of the call 'thank you for not shouting at me!'

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Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 20:01

Bluevelvetsofa · 22/03/2025 18:07

I think the point about police officers enjoying having power over others is undoubtedly an issue. If you are given powers of arrest in your job and if you are used to seeing the more unpleasant side of society, I imagine you perspective can become skewed and power driven.

A neighbour was a police officer and, apart from the aggressive behaviour towards the public, some of the things they did which were deemed to be amusing, were appalling, morally reprehensible and probably unlawful.

I hope there are caring and considerate officers and I hope there are those that treat others with respect, but it does seem that the police service attracts some whose motives are suspect.

I believe there are some caring officers but unfortunately they are in the minority.

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Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 19:59

ThriveIn2025 · 22/03/2025 17:59

I went to a friends house after I was assaulted by my then husband (around 20yrs ago). She convinced me to go to the police and accompanied me to the station. I was interviewed by 2 male officers. They concluded it was my word against his. They did not take a statement from me. They did not photograph my injuries. They did not question him or remove him from my home. I was very much treated like a silly little girl.

So yes, I believe you OP and sadly not much has changed in 20 years.

I'm so sorry for your experience. It is making me even angrier knowing that I am far from in the minority at having experienced this.

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Bluevelvetsofa · 22/03/2025 18:07

I think the point about police officers enjoying having power over others is undoubtedly an issue. If you are given powers of arrest in your job and if you are used to seeing the more unpleasant side of society, I imagine you perspective can become skewed and power driven.

A neighbour was a police officer and, apart from the aggressive behaviour towards the public, some of the things they did which were deemed to be amusing, were appalling, morally reprehensible and probably unlawful.

I hope there are caring and considerate officers and I hope there are those that treat others with respect, but it does seem that the police service attracts some whose motives are suspect.

ThriveIn2025 · 22/03/2025 17:59

I went to a friends house after I was assaulted by my then husband (around 20yrs ago). She convinced me to go to the police and accompanied me to the station. I was interviewed by 2 male officers. They concluded it was my word against his. They did not take a statement from me. They did not photograph my injuries. They did not question him or remove him from my home. I was very much treated like a silly little girl.

So yes, I believe you OP and sadly not much has changed in 20 years.

Yatzydog · 22/03/2025 17:49

I have not had need to use the police but I do know many police officers personally, and more commonly their wives , and almost with no exception the police I have encountered are all bullying bastards (and often cheating bastards and or violently abusive husbands) but I appreciate that is anecdotal

I remember a thread on MN about which profession is the worse for a partner. The posts were in the hundreds and the majority said the Police. Bullying, DV and cheating were given as the reasons.

BitOutOfPractice · 22/03/2025 16:51

I’m a law abiding middle aged woman in her 50s with nothing more shady than a speeding ticket in her past and I absolutely 100% do not trust the police.

LucyBee0ox · 22/03/2025 16:46

YADNBU. There was a study a while back about how they’re much more likely than the general population to be domestic abusers. Sadly it attracts the type of person who enjoys having power over others.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 16:44

Snorlaxo · 22/03/2025 16:28

I believe that there’s a statistic that says sociopaths and psychopaths are over represented in law enforcement and as CEOs because they enjoy the power.

I have had some bad and good experiences with the police and I’m sorry that your experience was negative.

Thank you. And yes, that makes a lot of sense.

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Snorlaxo · 22/03/2025 16:28

I believe that there’s a statistic that says sociopaths and psychopaths are over represented in law enforcement and as CEOs because they enjoy the power.

I have had some bad and good experiences with the police and I’m sorry that your experience was negative.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 16:24

OneTC · 22/03/2025 16:16

As a job it attracts arseholes.

And then they have great difficulty removing or punishing the ones that are too much of an arsehole to be safe around the public.

The head of the met agrees with at least 50% of my point

I mean it is no wonder they don't punish any of them because you can't even report them commiting a crime and a complaint goes no where. Nothing is taken seriously.

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OneTC · 22/03/2025 16:16

As a job it attracts arseholes.

And then they have great difficulty removing or punishing the ones that are too much of an arsehole to be safe around the public.

The head of the met agrees with at least 50% of my point

NordicGiant · 22/03/2025 15:45

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 15:21

That sounds so intimidating, I'm so sorry to hear that. I felt similar to you that they were angry at me for no good reason. Being professional doesn't seem to exist for many of them.

No, it doesn't. They did everything they could to escalate the situation and make it worse.

At one point, they were putting handcuffs on me - I had my hands out straight and completely still. I was so still that when they went to take them off, my hand slipped out because I hadn't moved to cause it to lock tightly. And he shouted something like, "stop hitting me!" as he was doing it.

I just replied calmly something along the lines of, "I haven't hit you or touched you."

It was outrageous. So yes, I absolutely believe you.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 15:21

NordicGiant · 22/03/2025 13:47

I believe you.

I had them come round my house a couple of years back, demanding to come in and look for someone I'd supposedly beaten up. I live alone and there was no one here. Turns out they'd mistaken me for someone else.

They physically manhandled me (I'm tiny and I was literally just sitting talking to them and trying to explain) and were rude and aggressive. They seemed genuinely angry at me that I wasn't who they thought I was.

I won't answer the door to the police again.

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That sounds so intimidating, I'm so sorry to hear that. I felt similar to you that they were angry at me for no good reason. Being professional doesn't seem to exist for many of them.

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NordicGiant · 22/03/2025 13:47

I believe you.

I had them come round my house a couple of years back, demanding to come in and look for someone I'd supposedly beaten up. I live alone and there was no one here. Turns out they'd mistaken me for someone else.

They physically manhandled me (I'm tiny and I was literally just sitting talking to them and trying to explain) and were rude and aggressive. They seemed genuinely angry at me that I wasn't who they thought I was.

I won't answer the door to the police again.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 13:40

stresssd · 22/03/2025 12:58

I had a happy relationship for 12 years until dh joined the police. 6 years in it has changed him into an unrecognisable arsehole who lies, cheats and has emotionally/psychologically broken me. He doesn't think he's changed but he is absolutely a bully. He sees alot of vulnerable people as worth less than him now.

That is so sad to hear. I'm really sorry that you've gone through that.

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ginasevern · 22/03/2025 13:32

Yes, the police are bullying bastards. I've had limited dealings but the ones I've had have been truly humiliating and horrible. They've intimated me and seem to be more concerned with "protecting" the guilty party. Not sure if it's because I'm a woman but the amount of sexual assault, rape, etc committed by police themselves should tell us all we need to know.

CreationNat1on · 22/03/2025 13:03

Some police in my in-laws extended family, they are very corrupt and unpleasant people, they bully and engage in elder abuse and they land grab. They cause so much upset to everyone they leave behind.

stresssd · 22/03/2025 12:58

I had a happy relationship for 12 years until dh joined the police. 6 years in it has changed him into an unrecognisable arsehole who lies, cheats and has emotionally/psychologically broken me. He doesn't think he's changed but he is absolutely a bully. He sees alot of vulnerable people as worth less than him now.

CreationNat1on · 22/03/2025 12:36

Surely everyone needs to call the police several times over the course of their lives.

Similar to other emergency services.

Some absolute bellends on this thread.

Power corrupts, as they say.

Sotired222 · 22/03/2025 12:27

Loveheart101 · 22/03/2025 12:14

Also not difficult to believe that a male in a position of authority could show aggression through using unreasonable force and knowing he will get away with it.

Yes and you can see how he will get away with it with so many people on this thread saying he must have just been shutting the door!

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